Neon Genesis Evangelion

Did they actually call in the VAs to redo the whole series? Or did they just edit the existing voices into 5.1?

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This is pretty much my opinion of the NGE series:

I finished watching this series around Christmas break, purely to see what the whole "hype" was behind this series. I actually liked it more than I expected, but I already read so many fan's lamentations on the last two episodes, so basically I did see it coming and didn't expect much.

End of Evangelion wasn't much help either, as my favorite character (as well as pretty much everyone else), Misato...

Spoiler:

bit the dust. Do I really need spoilers for this? Well I guess just not about everyone has seen it yet, so for spoiler sakes, oh yeah, DARTH VADER AND SPIKE DIE

What did I like about this particular series by Gainax?

1) Animation: I must say I didn't expect too much in terms of quality animation forthis TV series, but I was quite impressed with the traditional hand drawn techniques employed throughout the series. I wasn't "blown away" with any of the visuals, but I was generally quite happy about the animation technique.

2) Characters: Perhaps this is somewhat iffy, but Evangelion has quite the different range of characters to keep it interesting. There's the "Miss Honor Student-Quiet-As-A-Mute" Rei and the "Hot-headed-Arrogant-Condescending" Asuka, which makes a few amusing social situations. Personally, I really didn't find Shinji that amiable at all - well I doubt many would find his quiet, reserved, but also somewhat timid approach - amiable.

3) Pacing: I find it quite rare for an anime series to have brief moments of "silence" or pauses (anime series which I have seen, that is). Such an example is when Shinji is going to leave on the train, but Misato races in her car to see him. There's a slight pause for about 5 seconds which the audience hears the sound of crickets and such. Another example includes Shinji lying in bed listening to his cassette tape. Some may find these momentary pauses as pointless, but I'm quite fond of them, actually.

Well…that’s pretty much it.

What I didn’t like?

1) Episodes 25& 26. I guess this is a “love it” or “hate it” part of the series. I don’t feel like beating over dead horses about this one, so much of my gripe would be the same as those in the “hate it” section. I'm pretty sure this thing called the "Internet" has had its share of flamewars over the debate as to whether these last two episodes were shit-filled-pieces-of-brainless-poo-that-wastes-everyone's-time or Anno's artistic expression to what Shinji experiences. I don't intend to open this up here.

2) Why does it seem that NERV is the most inept “special forces” arm of the UN? (Correct me if I’m wrong about the specifics about NERV), but it seems everytime there’s a crisis and one of the Angels attack, pretty much NERV just shuts right down. It seems that they get out of these pinches everytime thanks to Misato’s quick thinking. I’ve lost count of how many times Misa screams out along the lines of “ZOMG SYSTEM ISN’T RESPONDING!!!”.

Seeing as how much funding is pumped into this NERV organization, I’m surprised that much of the system is just thrown into chaos. Of course one may argue that these “Angel nemesis” are equipped with far greater alien technology which can override any Earthly devised defense initiative, which is why NERV seems incompetent to get any of their systems online and functioning nominally especially during times of crisis.

The second point isn’t really a point that makes me “not like” the series, but it’s just something that kept prompting me in the back of my head. Clearly though, point number one was the big issue I had with the series, not point number two.

In conclusion, I did find this series enjoyable (see picture), but it’s on the overrated side, seriously. Perhaps it’s the ending that perpetuates talk and discussion to this day and keeps the series “alive” for discussion sake, as Anno may have desired. Meh.

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On second thought, Fuck, I love EOE. I don't know why now. But even though it's a rather bizzare way to end the series, it somehow just falls all into place. In the original ending, (okay everyone probably knows this by now but what the hell), Shinji made the decision in his mind, but in EOE, we see the physical manifestations of his decision to be himself and not part of the LCL instrumentality project. So I guess everyone else just wanted to be in the "in group". Bleh. Okay. Yeah I did point out above that much of the cast is laid to waste which did kind of suck for my favorite characters, but perhaps the real point is that such an earth-shattering-ground-breaking process that transforms the world doesn't choose "favorites" to survive, besidse Shinji and Asuka.

"I feel terrible"

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Spatula

Haha!! I want to have your children! Else atleast be raped my reaction guys.

Anyway, yeah I dunno I watched this serious many years ago. It was all cool during the viewing of it except the last few episodes sucked balls. That being said, Asuka kicking ass during the final installment made up for all the crap the rest of the series offered viewers.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by SouthJag

Did they actually call in the VAs to redo the whole series? Or did they just edit the existing voices into 5.1?

Both, the format in which the audio that make that DVDs from can be easlyer changed into 5.1 from 2.0, its just back in the day, it was much more difficult for them to do. Some of the scenes did have to be redubbed for the purpuses of, getting the verbage more correct, and small details like that.(I accualy asked that question at a ADV panel, got A Tree of Palme for it too )

Originally Posted by Spatula

On second thought, Fuck, I love EOE. I don't know why now. But even though it's a rather bizzare way to end the series, it somehow just falls all into place. In the original ending, (okay everyone probably knows this by now but what the hell), Shinji made the decision in his mind, but in EOE, we see the physical manifestations of his decision to be himself and not part of the LCL instrumentality project. So I guess everyone else just wanted to be in the "in group". Bleh. Okay. Yeah I did point out above that much of the cast is laid to waste which did kind of suck for my favorite characters, but perhaps the real point is that such an earth-shattering-ground-breaking process that transforms the world doesn't choose "favorites" to survive, besidse Shinji and Asuka.

"I feel terrible"

Its been a LONG time, and i dont happen to have it in my dorm. so i will state it the best i can.

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

I will be watching this over spring break, so i might be able to fill you in, more than you want to know after that...its just been bout 2 years since i sat and watched all of it through....Im starting to sound like the eva monkey here ^^;;

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Evangelion is my favorite anime of all, I've watched it in 1998 or 1999 and so far nothing compares to it in my opinion.

www.sega.co.jp, since you just watched the show, a good material to understand a bit more of EVA is the Red Croos Book, a book distributed to the first people to watch End of Evangelion in Japan, it countains a lot of explanations. To be honest I haven't read all of it but a friend of mine which also loves Evangelion read it all and said it is a must for Evangelion fans.

If you want it, I'll put a link here for this book.


And I'd like opinion of you guys on something, I have the Chinese DVD version of Evangelion, the quality is fairly good, but recently was released the Platinum Box of Evangelion, and it isn't as much expensive as I expected it ot be, so I'm thinking on buying it. It's a bit pricy for me 'cause I don't live in USA, I would just like to ask for those of you who have it if it is worth it ?
I heard it has 4 extras stuff, and I'd like to hear about hte quality of image and sound ....

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

This Red Croos Book intrigues me. Reading I shall!

Thanks for the info, never knew of the thing.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Yuna

And I'd like opinion of you guys on something, I have the Chinese DVD version of Evangelion, the quality is fairly good, but recently was released the Platinum Box of Evangelion, and it isn't as much expensive as I expected it ot be, so I'm thinking on buying it. It's a bit pricy for me 'cause I don't live in USA, I would just like to ask for those of you who have it if it is worth it ?
I heard it has 4 extras stuff, and I'd like to hear about hte quality of image and sound ....

GO FOR IT! The images where massivly cleaned up and it is in 5.1 jap and english
DeepdiscountDVD or check at best buy i thin it was like 48+tax there(cant find it online)...It comes with alot of special features, and i mean ALOT! it comes with the series, and like 5 hours of bonus stuff(now i believe each dvd has ~5 mins of the op/ed cuts, in that 5 hours) but anyway, and ep 21-24 are the DIRECTOR'S CUT EDITION! you can watch it normal or with the director's cut animation if i do recall correctly. and for those who have not seen the directos cuts let me tell you O.O WATCH IT NOW!!!! there's some stuff that you missed that will pretty much blow your mind...well i thought so anyway...some of the scenes where in Death_True^2(the US Death and Rebirth release), but not all of them...

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Asuka kicking ass during the final installment made up for all the crap the rest of the series offered viewers.

Agreed. That was the best part IMO. I loved how she went from being all emo like Shinji to being "I'm gonna open a can of whoop-ass". Asuka is by far my favorite character from NGE...

NGE was the first "real" anime I watched, I think I saw it first back in 1999 or 2000. Untill then the only anime I had seen was DBZ (and I actually thought it was cool back then, LOL). Eva introduced me to the wonderful world of anime, so it will always be one of my favorites.

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Originally Posted by David4516

Untill then the only anime I had seen was DBZ (and I actually thought it was cool back then, LOL).

It was an still is! >=(

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I think it can be agreed that Evangelion is best watched when you are a whiny teenager. Of course you're going to be irritated with it if you watch it as a rational-minded adult, as you'll have forgotten what that sort of angst is like.

That being said, I watched it when I was in 10th grade in Sigh School, and have loved it ever since. Also, I find re-watching it to be highly theraputic. Helped me through some hard times.

I was speaking idiomatically.

After seeing the entire Evangelion series I felt like becoming some kind of hospital worker so I can pull a Shinji on a female patient.

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Neon Genesis Evangelion is one of my favourite anime, and one of the first ones I ever discovered way back in the day. I can definitely see why some people don't like it - it's got elements in it that are going to put off viewers who were looking for a traditional mecha anime.

You could even call it bad writing in some parts, because it's so obtuse, and doesn't get to the bloody point. However, for some people, it just works. It's also lovely to watch while extremely stoned.

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Originally Posted by doodle

I think it can be agreed that Evangelion is best watched when you are a whiny teenager. Of course you're going to be irritated with it if you watch it as a rational-minded adult, as you'll have forgotten what that sort of angst is like.

Shit...I can imagine that means my friend is still in the angsty-teen phase.
But he's 21...

It's enjoyable to me because of all the Mysticism that's woven into the plot, and all the references to the non-canon parts of the Bible. That in itself is enough to make it interesting to me.

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Originally Posted by Lukage

There was a gunshot and they wanted to make it more gross sounding. They were doing audio rewrites on a lot of the parts (1995 remind you) that needed fixing. The gushing of the brains was just fine.



Aww come on man, where are the spoiler tags?

Actually I made no indications that it happend in the movie (though it does). Plus it happens so early that it doesn't spoil as nearly as much as you'd think (it ot like anyone dies or anything).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

It's all spoiler!

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

Spoiler:

Wait i disagree. I think the movie and TV series have exactly oposite endings. In the TV series he accepts the human instrumentality project but in the movie he rejects it.... If this isn't correct then i'm really confused.

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Originally Posted by xen0phobia

Spoiler:

Wait i disagree. I think the movie and TV series have exactly oposite endings. In the TV series he accepts the human instrumentality project but in the movie he rejects it.... If this isn't correct then i'm really confused.

I don't know about "correct", but that's not the impression I got.

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I thought the big "congratulations" was because Shinji learned to live in the real world. You know, finally grew up and started to understand that all his problems don't prevent him from having a decent life. Having realised all of that (assuming I'm right) it seems natural that he'd "reject" the complementation of all souls. I just get the impression that it was implicit rather than explicit in the TV ending. You know they ran out of budget, which is why the movie was made, right?

That's just my thoughts. If you still disagree, then that's valid. Try watching the ending again, though... I'd do the same myself, but I've seen it far too many times, now.

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Originally Posted by xen0phobia

It's all spoiler!

Spoiler:

but in the movie, Rei says to Shinji after he has made his decision, that basicly those who can imagen their shape again, can come back. I wish i had the quote. this is why asuka looks they way she does. remeber she was turn to shreds, but the mind that went into über Rei imagined her body as we see in the final scene. Anybody can come back in any form they desire to, if they want to come back at all, basicly...and YES he makes the same decistion in the TV series and the movie, just pay very close attention

Spoiler:

Wait i disagree. I think the movie and TV series have exactly oposite endings. In the TV series he accepts the human instrumentality project but in the movie he repects it.... If this isn't correct then i'm really confused.

OH oh oh...i will be watching the series again, starting tomorrow URAH!

Spoiler:

and will tell you every little detail about why it is exactly the same...i will even try to get some screen shots of where the places over-lap. I argued about this with the eva monkey, and convinced him (he saw it the same way you did) that the endings are the same...

now that probly dont need a spoiler, for that last part but meh....

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Dammit, the movie was the biggest trip I've ever seen. It makes FLCL look normal in comparison. After some thought, the final ending to NGE Series was better than the EoE, here's why:

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Shinji in the anime learns to love himself, a much better conclusion than him becoming the emotional wreak he did in EoE. For rejecting the Human Instrumentality porject, he chokes Asuka and then once he realizes what he is doing, she shows disgust. Both endings were by far the most abstract pieces of anime I've every seen and definately left more questions than answers for me.

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I think every episode could easily end with Shinji standing over Asuka.

"I'm so fucked up."

It really would work.

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Originally Posted by aku

GO FOR IT! The images where massivly cleaned up and it is in 5.1 jap and english
DeepdiscountDVD or check at best buy i thin it was like 48+tax there(cant find it online)...It comes with alot of special features, and i mean ALOT! it comes with the series, and like 5 hours of bonus stuff(now i believe each dvd has ~5 mins of the op/ed cuts, in that 5 hours) but anyway, and ep 21-24 are the DIRECTOR'S CUT EDITION! you can watch it normal or with the director's cut animation if i do recall correctly. and for those who have not seen the directos cuts let me tell you O.O WATCH IT NOW!!!! there's some stuff that you missed that will pretty much blow your mind...well i thought so anyway...some of the scenes where in Death_True^2(the US Death and Rebirth release), but not all of them...

That's probably what I needed to hear.
I saw it at eBay for about US$60.00, I don't have much choices of places to buy since I don't live in USA, and some of the sellers will ship it worldwide.

The Red Cross Book answers a few questions that are left in the end of the anime and the movies. I don't know about you, but I find the ending of End of Evangelion to be much better than the regular one.

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Originally Posted by Yuna

That's probably what I needed to hear.
I saw it at eBay for about US$60.00, I don't have much choices of places to buy since I don't live in USA, and some of the sellers will ship it worldwide.

The Red Cross Book answers a few questions that are left in the end of the anime and the movies. I don't know about you, but I find the ending of End of Evangelion to be much better than the regular one.

Just swing by amazon.com (for your country of course) and see if you can net a good deal. There has to be some place that will ship to you for a good deal.

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Originally Posted by aku

OH oh oh...i will be watching the series again, starting tomorrow URAH!

Spoiler:

and will tell you every little detail about why it is exactly the same...i will even try to get some screen shots of where the places over-lap. I argued about this with the eva monkey, and convinced him (he saw it the same way you did) that the endings are the same...

now that probly dont need a spoiler, for that last part but meh....

Arguing with the Eva Monkey is kinda like the special olympics... You don't need me to finish that saying, right?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Who do you think would make the best match for Shinji: Misato, Rei or Asuka?
Here's my thought:

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Misato, even though the age diffenece is great, she has the least conditional love for Shinji. Asuka is too demanding and Rei is too distant. Misato really cares about Shinji (as seen in a few episodes where she breaks out crying when she thinks Shinji won't come back) and supports most of decisions all the way. She was the first person in the series to really branch out to Shinji and it shows how much she loves him (even though Kaji was her primary romantic concern throughout most of the series until his death.

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