Neon Genesis Evangelion

I recently finished wathcing the series. The character development is what I like the most about this (sometimes abstract) anime. What does turn me off are the last two episodes.

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While the very very ending is pretty good (when Shinji learns to love himself), the constant focus on Shinji's self hatred and inner torment bothers me.

The action is very good as well, especially how the Evangelions and their pilots are linked both emotionally and physically (such as how when their pain is shared). Plus the trippy graphics add to a unique experience. Definiately light years ahead of almost all Shonen manga/anime out there.

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Any updates on the live action movie?

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I loathed NGE. Except for the first soundtrack, it was an entire let-down.

Why? Well, for starters, Shinji. Most of the series is him being emo. The fighting and technology as well as in-depth nature made the anime decent to watch. If it focused moreso on fighting as opposed to making everything so fucked up close to the end, things would've been much more enjoyable. But the characters annoyed me to no end. I recently downloaded RahXephon and am expecting more of it.

The only part of the series I truly enjoyed was...:

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When Nerv was being ripped apart by an Angel, and Shinji came outta nowhere in his Eva and just knocked the tar out of the Angel. That was badass. Then the Eva pulled off its armor showing it is an Angel. Or something. It got more eff'd up beyond that. And that classmate taking over his position and getting killed? Followed by showing up how fucked up Ritsuko and his father were? C'mon. That was just sloppily thrown together.

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I agree with Gechmir to a fault. It wore on me sometimes when they would focus entire episodes on Shinji and his childlike behavior and lack of self-esteem. Besides that, the fighting was good and presented at differnt angle than most other giant-mecha anime.

One thing that surprised me most about this anime was the song choice for the ending theme, "Fly Me To The Moon by Frank Sinatra". That's what really made this anime stand out to me. Great stuff there.

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I watched about 15 seconds of this on Cartoon Network and have added this as another series that got ripped on the dubbing. You figure with the fanbase that this series has, they would work harder on the dubbing.

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Originally Posted by Sir VG

I watched about 15 seconds of this on Cartoon Network and have added this as another series that got ripped on the dubbing. You figure with the fanbase that this series has, they would work harder on the dubbing.

Did they work that hard on the dubbing to Naruto? No, they chose the "Get the job done" attitude without caring so much about the quality. The dubbing is acceptable in every positive and negative connotation of the word.

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That's the sad thing about dubbing companies. Too many good series get destroyed in the dubbing process. I was totally turned off by Shinji's voice.

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Originally Posted by Sir VG

That's the sad thing about dubbing companies. Too many good series get destroyed in the dubbing process. I was totally turned off by Shinji's voice.

I agree, I thought his voice was way to high-pitched and whiny.

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One of the best series ever in my opinion. Although the series has a fucked up ending, and a completely opposite ending in the movie, its still amazing. The character development is probably the best i've ever seen acheived in any anime. Rahxephon had a story that made more sence but their character development couldn't touch Evangelion.

Man i just rewatched this a few weeks ago but i already am kinda wanting to watch it again.

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Early ADV had a habit of reusing the same handful of voice actors. Look to Burnout Warrior, Evangelion, Blue Seed, Golden Boy, Gunsmith Cats... List goes on. NUMEROUS repeat-voice actors.

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Originally Posted by subferno

Any updates on the live action movie?

Last I heard, ADV has half of the money made for the movie, which is due in 2010.

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp

I recently finished wathcing the series. The character development is what I like the most about this (sometimes abstract) anime. What does turn me off are the last two episodes.

Spoiler:

While the very very ending is pretty good (when Shinji learns to love himself), the constant focus on Shinji's self hatred and inner torment bothers me.

The action is very good as well, especially how the Evangelions and their pilots are linked both emotionally and physically (such as how when their pain is shared). Plus the trippy graphics add to a unique experience. Definiately light years ahead of almost all Shonen manga/anime out there.

Did you watch End of Eva yet?

Because no matter what anyone tells you, THAT'S the real ending. And it's spectacular. And it still can work along with the series ending, metaphysically speaking.

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The theme I love from End of Eva is the rejection of a false reality. Shinji was faced with the choice of continuing the Instrumentality project where everyone would become a single being and have their own fake "heaven" inside the giant Rei, OR destroying the beast and becoming human again. He says (para-phrasing here), "those thoughts and feelings I had with my friends, even if they were sad or depressing, at least those were REAL" and then his Eva busts out of the Rei head and the most beautiful music plays.

I love Eva.

(oh, and I take the optimistic "as long as the humans in the LCL envision themselves as human, they can return to regular form" opinion, not the "Shinji and Asuka are now Adam & Eve" one)

I was speaking idiomatically.

End of Eva is the real ending. Puny Earthlings can't handle it.

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Because no matter what anyone tells you, THAT'S the real ending. And it's spectacular. And it still can work along with the series ending, metaphysically speaking.

I love to think of it as what happens right after the last TV episode. It's so delightfully doom-ish.

As far as the Cartoon Network version:

You should be used to it if you've been a fan. I've had the DVDs for years. If you wait for it to be on that channel, you're forcing yourself to be disappointed.

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I agree, I thought his voice was way to high-pitched and whiny.

And his actions don't reflect that?





And umm yeah, more defending the show to come. Favorite anime, gotta support it.

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God, Shinji is whiny and irritating. He's one of the most frustrating characters in any anime -- which I suppose is a triumph in itself. Maybe that's why his dub voice doesn't bother me *too* much. Really, I'm more frustrated by Asuka's voice, with her lousy German. Of course, this might be because Asuka is one of my favorite female anime characters.

I've watched the series 1.5 times and EoE a couple times. I really liked the series in the beginning, but would rather skip the last 3 or so episodes of the series and skip directly to End of Evangelion.

And I hated Death and Rebirth. That was a huge waste of my time watching it, and their time making it.

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At any rate, after I watched it, I just gave up on it(knowing the symbolisism). But hey, this IS america, so dubs r us!! Alas, I too rather have a dislike of Shinji's dubbed voice. Ever tried Eva-Death and Rebirth? Tres horrible.

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When I started downloading the episodes, I watched the dub version... Only because I was familiar with the English voice actors. I'll see how the Japanese voices compare once I give End Of Evangelion a try.

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OMG GOD... EoE they fucked up so bad in english, the added some sound effects, and stuff. if i remeber correctly, there was a gunshot that moved to a slap scene, and the slap was what was heard, and they went and put a gunshot sound in there, because it wasnt 'cool enought' or some shit... >.< it aggrivates me to NO end.... >.< but as for Eva, one of the many series, i hold dear to my heart. first series i owned all of... and i will be getting the platinum box, as soon as it goes on sale @ rightstuf.com

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I love to think of it as what happens right after the last TV episode. It's so delightfully doom-ish.

NO NO NO NONO! Anno himself said that the movie is an EXACT repersentation of what goes on in the last episodes of the series, just one is in the physical world, and one is in the metaphysical plain.... >.< thank you... sorry...i hate it when people thing they are different.

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For those who are still confused:

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In one of the later episodes, Kaji is killed by an unknown assassin, at first I thought it was Misasto, because she recently got her gun back. After seeing her reaction though and reading up on it, Misato DID NOT KILL KAJI. Anno said that it was a hired gun from SEELE, he didn't intend for the juxtaposition of scenes suurrounding Kaji's death to confuse viewers.

I heard some freaky shit goes down in End of Evangelion, right now I'm giving the movie a download and expect it to arrive in the next 30 minutes. Hopefully it provides a better conclusion than episodes 25 & 26.

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Originally Posted by Sir VG

I watched about 15 seconds of this on Cartoon Network and have added this as another series that got ripped on the dubbing. You figure with the fanbase that this series has, they would work harder on the dubbing.

As far as I know, Evangelion was one of the first immensely popular anime series to be released in the States, so it's no wonder that the voices weren't incredible like they are in more recent productions. However, I wouldn't discount the work of the VAs -- fact is they all still voice major roles in several other series.

And Sir VG, your logic is kind of backwards I think. The show didn't have a US fanbase until after it got released -- after the voices had already been done. The most that could've been done would be to re-dub the voices for the Platinum releases, and that'd be a bit much don't ya think?

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I dont like NGE. Shinji is not just annoying, he´s a freak.
I would never want to be in the same room with him when its dark.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Swordstalker

I dont like NGE. Shinji is not just annoying, he´s a freak.
I would never want to be in the same room with him when its dark.

Why are you worried that he would masterbate over your body?

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Originally Posted by aku

OMG GOD... EoE they fucked up so bad in english, the added some sound effects, and stuff. if i remeber correctly, there was a gunshot that moved to a slap scene, and the slap was what was heard, and they went and put a gunshot sound in there, because it wasnt 'cool enought' or some shit... >.< it aggrivates me to NO end.... >.< but as for Eva, one of the many series, i hold dear to my heart. first series i owned all of... and i will be getting the platinum box, as soon as it goes on sale @ rightstuf.com

There was a gunshot and they wanted to make it more gross sounding. They were doing audio rewrites on a lot of the parts (1995 remind you) that needed fixing. The gushing of the brains was just fine.

Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp

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Aww come on man, where are the spoiler tags?

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

As far as I know, Evangelion was one of the first immensely popular anime series to be released in the States, so it's no wonder that the voices weren't incredible like they are in more recent productions. However, I wouldn't discount the work of the VAs -- fact is they all still voice major roles in several other series.

Didn't they re-dub it for the Director's cut release (or the Platinum)? Or maybe I'm thinking of EoE compared to the series. In any event, I seem to remember my Eva-obsessed friend making a comment about Kaoru's voice being changed...

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Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

Didn't they re-dub it for the Director's cut release (or the Platinum)? Or maybe I'm thinking of EoE compared to the series. In any event, I seem to remember my Eva-obsessed friend making a comment about Kaoru's voice being changed...

The platinum and movies were redone, 5.1, yeah.

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