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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
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Rock
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 03:58 AM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 10:58 AM #1051 of 3592
I think everyone who owns a PSP can agree on the fact that the XMB interface is plain awesome. Not only is it incredibly slick, it also allows for insanely fast and intuitive navigation while using a minimal graphical overhead without the potential of distracting the user.

PS3 using the XMB interface is one of the best news so far.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Last edited by Rock; Aug 14, 2006 at 05:08 PM.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 04:55 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 03:55 PM #1052 of 3592
While I have no issues with the PSP or PS3 (Or any Sony one for that matter) interface in question, I have to mention that the 360's UI is hardly bloated garbage like Cetra seems to believe.

The Dashboard for the 360 is intuitive, simple, and easy to use. It's actually QUITE similar to the XMB interface. Major menu items are accessed through a horizontally scrolling menu. Sub items are accessed vertically from there. Both the PSP and 360 have customizable wallpapers. The PS3 looks like it has customizable and personal profiles, much like the 360 has. From a pure usability standpoint, they are both pretty fucking good, and actually quite similar.

There might be technical differences and a different sort of system for dealing with buddies and such things, but the 360 solution to this is quite elegant and usable. I'd like to know why you think it's bloated garbage, Cetra.

And the 360's Blade system has probably gotten just as much praise as the PSX's. It's hard to find people who don't like it.

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 09:24 PM #1053 of 3592
Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
While I have no issues with the PSP or PS3 (Or any Sony one for that matter) interface in question, I have to mention that the 360's UI is hardly bloated garbage like Cetra seems to believe.

The Dashboard for the 360 is intuitive, simple, and easy to use. It's actually QUITE similar to the XMB interface. Major menu items are accessed through a horizontally scrolling menu. Sub items are accessed vertically from there. Both the PSP and 360 have customizable wallpapers. The PS3 looks like it has customizable and personal profiles, much like the 360 has. From a pure usability standpoint, they are both pretty fucking good, and actually quite similar.

There might be technical differences and a different sort of system for dealing with buddies and such things, but the 360 solution to this is quite elegant and usable. I'd like to know why you think it's bloated garbage, Cetra.

And the 360's Blade system has probably gotten just as much praise as the PSX's. It's hard to find people who don't like it.
No, no, no.

I don't like the 360's blade system. It has too many redundant items.

You can select "Game trailers" or "Media" to view the same content. You can access the same downloadable content through either the game's name or "latest game movies" or "trailers" or "demos" on the marketplace.

It's excessive. What they needed was a simple "music/movies/games/options/internet" interface. That's it.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 09:35 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 08:35 PM #1054 of 3592
"Game Trailers" is a filter for the video content. Certain videos do not show up on that page that show up on the other Videos option. You want to look at just game trailers? That's what you pick. You want to view that addidas commercial you downloaded? That's under the "Videos" option.

The same goes for all the Live options, those are merely filters or methods for browsing through the content. You can search for stuff by game, genre, or how new the content is. With two button presses, I can find the newest items on Live. I don't have to find a game list and scroll through it, find a specific game and then check it to see if there is anything new there.

The other options are similar. I can search for just gamerpics, if I want, or just new trailers, or what have you. These are nothing more than search parameters.

I dunno about you, but being able to search a vast amount of content for something that I specifically want is pretty appealing, as opposed to having to go through it manually.

But hey, why have convience, it's redundant, right?

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 10:10 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 09:10 PM #1055 of 3592
PSP has folder-based convenience, smartass.

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 10:14 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 09:14 PM #1056 of 3592
No kidding, Stealth. Good work missing the point.

Lemme spell it out for you. Having options that one can use to search for specific media is not a bad thing.

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 10:33 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 10:33 PM #1057 of 3592
I don't mind the 360's blade-UI system, but there is one rather disturbing problem with it that neither the PSP nor, presumably, the PS3 will have -- when the UI is brought up during gameplay, the game doesn't frickin' pause. So there are these giant menus that fill up nearly half the screen in the middle of your gameplay, and that button's close enough to the rest of the controller layout to where it can be accidentally touched.

The PSP's UI, on the other hand, doesn't have that problem. It can't be accessed during gameplay without leaving the game itself, which is a damn good thing -- I don't think I'll be needing to view movies or listen to music while I'm playing my game. However, you can access it while watching a movie....and the movie pauses. Dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuun.

I suspect the PS3 will have similar features.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:38 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 01:38 AM #1058 of 3592
Not true, it does pause just not in multiplayer games OF COURSE.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 02:00 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 02:00 AM #1059 of 3592
What? I've watched people lose rounds of Fight Night Round 3 because someone hit that 360 button. They lose because the game is still in-progress when those blades come up.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 02:18 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 09:18 AM #1060 of 3592
I think it's down to the games, not the machine. Most games pause when the 360 button is hit, others don't under certain criteria. Hitman: Blood Money, for exampel, doesn't if your looking at the map while pressing 360.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 03:12 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 03:12 AM #1061 of 3592
Yeah then its simply the developers being lazy and not executing the pause game button when the ring of light is pressed, just in the way the pause game button pauses the game lol. I can't recall one of my games which does not.

I was speaking idiomatically.
Rock
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Old Aug 15, 2006, 06:34 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 01:34 PM #1062 of 3592
The Xbox 360 Blade UI is actually pretty good, but it isn't nowhere as easy and intuitive to handle as PSP's XMB. It takes a while to really get used to it and not be confused by the seemingly redundant blade menu eye candy. The 360's UI also takes up the whole screen whereas the XMB is much less intrusive and offers its entire functionality with the game/video/photos/browser/whatever still visible/running in the background.

I just like simplicity and minimalism, so I personally prefer the XMB. Though I'm not interested in getting a PS3 at launch, I can't wait to see its full implementation on the console.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Last edited by Rock; Aug 15, 2006 at 07:10 AM.
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Old Aug 17, 2006, 02:08 AM #1063 of 3592
Looks like Sony is giving Resistence: Fall of Man the most attention of the launch games.

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Prepare yourselves for an invasion, because it looks like Sony is giving it everything that they've got when it comes to the sci-fi first-person shooter, Resistance: Fall of Man. Some may not buy into the aliens-invaded-us-during-WWII-and-all-the-earth's-forces-have-to-ward-them-off storyline, but maybe if bombarded with an ingenious marketing strategy they would deem it worthy of a second look.

We've all had the notion that this title would have heavy marketing, but just today, Sony confirms that hunch by releasing this statement through their official forum.

"Sony Computer Entertainment America will support Resistance: Fall of Man with a blockbuster multimillion dollar marketing campaign. This will include aggressive national television, print, online and viral advertising campaigns, full promotional support, dedicated point-of-purchase displays and merchandising support, broad-based public relations support, an immersive and interactive website and feature coverage in the Official PlayStation Magazine/Underground DVD."

If Sony's marketing strategy does not get your attention, then this entry from James Stevenson's blog, newest addition to the Insomniac family might.

"Obviously, the other fun part is getting to play games. We’ve had lunch tests of multiplayer in order to get 40 people online and playing Resistance at the same time. This works out really well – Insomniac brings in lunch for us, we scarf down the food and then wipe off our hands before picking up a PS3 controller and getting down to business. I’m looking forward to more of these as we get closer to launch."
-QJ.Net

Interesting. While Resistence was one of the launch games I was interested in, I'm still reserved on making it the priority game considering it's an FPS. For a look at what next-gen can do, I was leaning toward games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, or Assasin's Creed. FPS games can always cut corners.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 07:35 AM #1064 of 3592
Sony's gotta choose something to make a killer app out of. As long as they make people believe Resistance is greater than Christ, people will see it as validating a PS3 purchase.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 11:31 AM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 01:31 PM #1065 of 3592
So then, PS3 is only months away from purchase. Yet, where are all of the pre-orders? I've been waiting for EBgames/GameStop to come out with one, but I'm left hanging in the dust. What is the deal?

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 12:03 PM #1066 of 3592
Originally Posted by Pietak
So then, PS3 is only months away from purchase. Yet, where are all of the pre-orders? I've been waiting for EBgames/GameStop to come out with one, but I'm left hanging in the dust. What is the deal?
I'm friends with the people at my mall's Babbages, and they informed me that they will not be taking pre-orders on the PS3, but will be implimenting a first come/first serve deal. I also heard they're only getting like, 4 PS3s in on launch. But knowing how fanatic people can get over these things it doesn't sound like such a good idea to me.

I don't know if the other Gamestops/EBs are doing that as well, or just ones in the area, or everywhere. But the manager there even told me months ago that they'd be very unlikely to take pre-orders. I'd have to imagine it'd be due to the precedent set by the 360 launch.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 12:05 PM #1067 of 3592
Last I checked, my Gamestop was taking pre-orders, but I'm still deciding which store is the best place to reserve it. There are some factors to consider, like which store will offer the best bonus (if any), which ones offer the best warranty (for $600, you'd better be able to replace it if it breaks without any hassle), and so on.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 17, 2006, 12:30 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 12:30 PM #1068 of 3592
Nobody's taking reservations at EB Games or Gamestop. If they are, I'd advise not doing it.

The official word we've received from the upper management is that EB/Gamestop will not be taking pre-orders on the PS3 (and most likely the Wii) until after the Manager's Conference, which won't end until late October. The reason for this lies in part with what happened during the 360 launch.

Microsoft told us we would be getting so many units, and to allocate those to individual regions, then districts, and lastly the stores themselves. But, just a week before launch, we were informed that the majority of stores were getting less than half of what they were promised.

This year, EB/Gamestop will not be taking any crap from customers. I was more than pissed off at the number of people who blamed me for Microsoft's failure to launch the number of consoles they promised us. So now the company's retaliation is to not take any reservations (and that includes making a call list) for the system until we have it triple-confirmed by Sony that this company is getting X number of units, period.

Now, for those of you who believe the stores are taking pre-orders -- it's impossible. At the most, they're making a call list (which the company already frowns on) for when the pre-orders become available. Why is this impossible? Because we don't even have the damn SKU number for the pre-order yet. Thus, it's impossible.

We're taking reservations on PS3 and Wii games, but not their systems. Questions?

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 02:47 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 04:47 PM #1069 of 3592
Nope.

Thanks a lot for completely clarifying though. I was wondering what the hell was going on.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 11:10 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 09:10 PM #1070 of 3592
SouthJag pretty much covered it. But I also heard a rumor of *if* EBGames is going to be stocking the PS3. I doubt it is true in anyway, but still, is is out there.

As for me and the PS3, if I get it, it will probably be for Assasin's Creed. I read about it and it looks interesting. Finally something that has not been done before. Or if it has, I do not know about it. But after seeing how well Oblivion came out(which I have yet to play T_T) I have a little more faith in the Next-Gen game creation peeps out there.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 11:50 PM Local time: Aug 18, 2006, 01:50 AM #1071 of 3592
Well, it is appearant in my signature, but I'm getting it launch day for two reasons; to have a PS3, and make all my friends think I'm insane, and then if there is a shortage, to sell it on eBay for a million dollars.

That and oh, I don't know Metal Gear Solid 4....

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 11:58 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 09:58 PM #1072 of 3592
Screw Metal Gear Solid. I want my Armored Core 4! Fear the armored core fanboy!

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Old Aug 18, 2006, 03:21 AM #1073 of 3592
I could go for another Armoured Core game myself, as long as it's better then Nine Breaker and Last Raven... Silent Line was ok.

The reason why I'm getting a PS3 though is for MGS4, Tekken 6, Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy XIII, God of War 3 (much later though), and about ten-thousand other games I can't remember at this moment.

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Old Aug 18, 2006, 05:17 AM Local time: Aug 18, 2006, 04:17 AM #1074 of 3592
MGS4 and Ace Combat 6, damn nuggets. You know it's coming.

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Old Aug 18, 2006, 04:38 PM Local time: Aug 18, 2006, 04:38 PM #1075 of 3592
Originally Posted by MTGNecro
As for me and the PS3, if I get it, it will probably be for Assasin's Creed.
Isn't Assassins Creed also being released on the 360? Correct me if I'm wrong...

Honestly, I'll be picking up a PS3 because I have yet to be let down by Sony. I know - I'm a mindless Sony fanboy. I admit it.

Oh. And for MGS4/FFXIII/DMC4/RE5.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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