Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

I'm going to see the film tomorrow, i'm really looking forward to seeing it and I didn't make the same mistake as look too much into it and what people have said like I did with X-men 3; so hopefully i'm less likely to have things ruined for me and come out disappointed. I'm expecting a basic straightforward high concept flick and nothing more =D. I'll probably post up a mini review tomorrow.

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Be sure to stay after the credits for that last funny scene.

Originally Posted by Capo

I hardly think reusing the same damned "Rum" gag over and over is what I would consider "clever, creative, interesting".

The rum gag isn't supposed to be interesting. The way they made me laugh every single time they did a rum-related joke makes it clever and creative, as well as humoriously accurate.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I thought it was a remarkably entertaining film. I loved the first one to bits as I loved the seven seas hijinks. This film, of course, was going to be more of the same. It is, afterall, a sequel to a pirate movie, so it's not going to be radically different. If you look at the film in its basic form, it's virtually identical to the first one: an (effectively) undead baddie crew, Jack, Will (and now Elizabeth) on the run from the officials etc etc. However, while the basic (and I mean basic) story is the same, it doesn't feel it. It's fresh, exciting and, surprisingly, unpredictable.

Johnny Depp is, once again, completely superb. It's understandable that Jack Sparrow will eventually grate and get on peoples nerves. However, I still love him. How long did it take for there to be a character quite like him? IMO, Captain Jack Sparrow is still a refreshing and wonderfully portrayed character.
I also have to find myself saying that Orlando Bloom was rather brilliant. OK, so brilliant's perhaps too strong, but of the films of his I've seen, this has been his best performace. Better than Paris, better than Legolas and better than Will Turner from the first film.
Kiera was also surprisingly good. Her performance was satisfactory and at the end where she

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chains Jack to the Pearl just before it gets destroyed so that they can all escape

was, I thought, very powerful.
And now the character most people overlook: Commodore James Norrington. I like the ol' Commodore, always have. I also think Jack Davenport is a very good, very underrated and very underused actor. It was great to see how he's changed from uptight officer of the Empire to scruffy bugger who's living in Tortuga. It was also nice to see how he's become a bit of a bad-ass.
And I gotta say, Bill Nighy was great as Davy Jones. That scene of him playing the organ with his tentacles was remarkably cool and one of my favourite parts of the movie.

As for favourite scenes, well, the organ scene has already been mentioned. Black Pearl vs the Kraken was also remarkably well done. The monkey scene was also fantasic. Ah, that's it, the choreography was also fantastic.
As for bad, well,

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I though that the whole Jack/Elizabeth thing was a bit pants. I can understand wanting to ditch Orlando Bloom for Johnny depp, but not Will for Jack. Admittedly, Bloom and Knightly have the on screen chemistry of a damp piece of paper, but still...

Overall, I thought the film was very, very well done. It wasn't as good as the first, I think, but it holds up well and considering its sequel handicap it was remarkable.

Overall score:
A healthy 8.5 out of 10.

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Just came back from seeing it, and overall I liked it. I would definitely say however, go see the first movie if you haven't yet, or else you won't understand some of the things going on (and some of the characters).

One thing you guys seemed to have forgotten to mention about the "racism" in this movie. While it's not focusing on the natives, it is a scene there:

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How about when Jack's crew was hanging in that cage? Notice how all the white sailors are in one cage, while the minorities are in another cage? I guess the natives are the racist ones.

I could immediately tell when that one dude said "You only need 6 members to crew the ship", that they were done for. Interestingly enough, all the white sailors in that other cage survive. Why would he say something like that, when all of them could've escaped? It's not like Jack would've turned them down or anything, and would require less people for him later on when he's getting those 100 souls.

Also, the crew aboard Jack's ship is quite large, but when Will's added to their numbers in the cage later, most of them are missing. I suppose we're to assume they got eaten?

Not that it bothered me that much, but might as well point it out lol.

I loved the special effects. The Kraken definitely does a good job of filling in fear that sailors had/would've talked about/feared over the open seas, and even Davy Jone's crew looked pretty decent (other than that one guy with the conch head, he seemed a little fake to me).

And I have to admit, I love Jack Sparrow's entrances in the movie. While it's not as hiliarious as the first movie:

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Where he comes to a dock on a small boat, except that it's sinking, and sinks completely before he gets to the dock

It's still kind of a cool entrance, and something I would expect him to do.

Although this movie has a darker feel to it than the first movie, it's usually balanced out by some humor as well:

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Like when Elizabeth runs into the two pirates carrying the chest, and finds out she doesn't have a sword. Reminiscent of the first movie, they move in on her, but when they see the pirates behind her, the throw both of their swords to her. That scene was just really hiliarious, and if you saw it, you'd probably agree.

Also, when Jack loses the key in the middle of the wheel, and goes to get it, it seems like nothing's gonna stop him, since the other two guys are fighting up top. Except he doesn't see the metal bar, which then conks him on the head.

And the scene where Jack pole-vaults to the other side of the cliff, and at first seems to have escaped danger, only to have the fruit that the natives threw on his pole earlier unbalance him enough that he falls over.

While there aren't as many spoken jokes as the first film, there's much more comedy expressed through action, which is great, because audiences all over the world will probably get a similiar reaction as us, whereas spoken jokes would have to be dubbed/subtitled, and may not work as well. You can bet scenes like the one I just mentioned in my last spoiler will be just as funny in Asia and Europe as it is to American audiences.

And if you're still skeptical, yes, it's worth watching, There are some flaws with the movie, but if you just want to watch some funny stuff happening (along with some serious moments, like when the Kraken is attacking), it's worth seeing.

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I don't think Elizabether is really in love with Jack, I think she's in love with what he is. From what i remember of the first movie, she's always wanted to be a pirate. I think that's why the compass points to him. She wants to be Jack, wants the freedom and the excitement. I don't think it's a real love thing.

I figure the only reason she kissed him was to distract him enough to chain him up.

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Shouldn't Jack have died when he fell down between the mountains? I'm pretty sure he shouldn't have survived that. Not to mention to still be in good enough health to get up and run away from a tribe of savages.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Gecko3

Just came back from seeing it, and overall I liked it. I would definitely say however, go see the first movie if you haven't yet, or else you won't understand some of the things going on (and some of the characters).

One thing you guys seemed to have forgotten to mention about the "racism" in this movie. While it's not focusing on the natives, it is a scene there:

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How about when Jack's crew was hanging in that cage? Notice how all the white sailors are in one cage, while the minorities are in another cage? I guess the natives are the racist ones.

I could immediately tell when that one dude said "You only need 6 members to crew the ship", that they were done for. Interestingly enough, all the white sailors in that other cage survive. Why would he say something like that, when all of them could've escaped? It's not like Jack would've turned them down or anything, and would require less people for him later on when he's getting those 100 souls.

Also, the crew aboard Jack's ship is quite large, but when Will's added to their numbers in the cage later, most of them are missing. I suppose we're to assume they got eaten?

Not that it bothered me that much, but might as well point it out lol.

As to the question about the crew size..

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Will asked about the crew size. Don't you remember? Jack's first mate said those cages were not there when they got there. Then Will freaked a little and took his hands off the cage. The cages are made of the crew. So I'm pretty sure you can safely assume they were eatin or killed.

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Originally Posted by BucPride

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Shouldn't Jack have died when he fell down between the mountains? I'm pretty sure he shouldn't have survived that. Not to mention to still be in good enough health to get up and run away from a tribe of savages.

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I pretty much just chalked that up to the writers watching a little too much Road Runner. Like he just survived for the purpose of being able to have such a stunt in the movie. But yeah, now that you mention it maybe there is some sort of connection.

Maybe Jack can't be killed.

or maybe he's already dead

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Originally Posted by acid

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I pretty much just chalked that up to the writers watching a little too much Road Runner. Like he just survived for the purpose of being able to have such a stunt in the movie. But yeah, now that you mention it maybe there is some sort of connection.

Maybe Jack can't be killed.

or maybe he's already dead

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Realistic guess is that Jack survived cause those bridges broke his fall, and had a ton of adrenaline, so probably didn't notice any pain if it was there. Comical answer is that he's Wile E. Coyote in disguise

And Shonos, that actually did answer my question for the most part. I sort of remember that part, but because of the situation they were in, probably didnt really pay attention to it (although I have to admit a lot of parts it was difficult to make out what was being said simply cause they spoke too fast or it took me a few seconds to see what they were saying).

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The movie doesn't have to make sense.

For example, there is a metal bar on the wheel that knocks out Jack, but when other people jump on the inside of the wheel, there is no bar.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by BucPride

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Shouldn't Jack have died when he fell down between the mountains? I'm pretty sure he shouldn't have survived that. Not to mention to still be in good enough health to get up and run away from a tribe of savages.

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I think the idea was that each time he crashed through a wooden bridge it stopped his fall ever so slightly, which didn't make the impact a deadly one.

Well I watched the film yesterday and I have to say I was thoroughly entertained. The look of the film, the costumes and the locations were amazing. Davy Jones' and his crew were spectacular with the sea things growing off them, I thought that was done really well. Jack Sparrow is Jack Sparrow really, you can't fault him. Davy Jones was great too, I think I remember reading about it in here when he does that little thing with his lip - it's the little things that entertain me sometimes =p.

The humour in the film was alright, although it did feel it was trying too hard to be funny since the first one was just hilarious down to Depp's performance. The soundtrack, well it's Hans Zimmer; while he writes amazing scores you can't help but feel you've heard it a million times before.

The story line was interesting enough, obviously there'll be a third so I can't sum it all up but it's going in an interesting direction if the third one doesn't fuck it up i.e X-Men 3.

I've never really liked Orlando Bloom's character, he just seems a bit too stiff and serious for his own good. Keira Knightly despite how I find her extremely annoying wasn't too bad in this film, she had her moments. All in all I really liked the film, it'll be interesting to see where the film heads due to the little twist at the end of the film (which I thought was fantastic).

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Originally Posted by Sian

I've never really liked Orlando Bloom's character, he just seems a bit too stiff and serious for his own good.

I can see Bloom as a "surprise" villain in PotC3. He'd be pretty pissed off that Jack

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stole his bonny lass. Perhaps he'd even gang up with the dreaded Eastindian Trade Company or whatever it's called.

Could we perhaps drop the spoilers by now? After four hours it should be expected that spoilers are aplenty. "HERE THERE BE SPOILERS!"

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Kilroy

I can see Bloom as a "surprise" villain in PotC3. He'd be pretty pissed off that Jack

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stole his bonny lass. Perhaps he'd even gang up with the dreaded Eastindian Trade Company or whatever it's called.

Could we perhaps drop the spoilers by now? After four hours it should be expected that spoilers are aplenty. "HERE THERE BE SPOILERS!"

Maybe, he's definetly gonna be a drama queen in the third one about Elizabeth kissing Jack. I think they've already got Norrington is his name? I forget, as the alliance with the trading company and he is going after Jack so I doubt it. But who knows =p

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I loved this movie. I think this is up to now the best movie released this year. It's funny, creative, good action oriented and everything, I might even say that it's better than the first.

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I laugh so hard in the scene Jack shoots the undead monkey to give it to "HER".
I think I was laughing for 2 minutes straigh

I can't wait for Pirates of the Caribbean 3, I belive it's going to be awesome.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well I finally went to the theater to see it last night and within five minutes, was laughing my ass off.

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The whole scene where Sparrow was in the coffin and killed the bird, yeah that was gold.

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I was not expecting anything from the last 15-20 minutes of the movie.

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Imagine if you will my utter surprise when Sparrow charged the creature and then Barbosa's re-appearance. How does that work exactly? Is he NOT supposed to be dead? Aztec gold, you know you love it.

Jack really didn't have the same attitude or at least in my opinion. And they over-used the "Rum" bits.

But yeah, 8 out of 10 stars from me. I look forward to it.

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I see them all taking a piece of Aztec gold and going to battle that way. It'll be great.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by DSan

Well I finally went to the theater to see it last night and within five minutes, was laughing my ass off.

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The whole scene where Sparrow was in the coffin and killed the bird, yeah that was gold.

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I was not expecting anything from the last 15-20 minutes of the movie.

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Imagine if you will my utter surprise when Sparrow charged the creature and then Barbosa's re-appearance. How does that work exactly? Is he NOT supposed to be dead? Aztec gold, you know you love it.

Jack really didn't have the same attitude or at least in my opinion. And they over-used the "Rum" bits.

But yeah, 8 out of 10 stars from me. I look forward to it.

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I see them all taking a piece of Aztec gold and going to battle that way. It'll be great.

You missed the point, mate. The point is that:

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Barbossa DID die. He's been to the pale shores on which our hero, Jack, now resides due to his unfortunate plunge to Davy Jones' locker. That's why he can find him again. He's been to the shores they need to find.

How ya doing, buddy?