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Old Jun 1, 2006, 09:34 PM Local time: Jun 1, 2006, 11:34 PM #1 of 59
Microsoft dropping Backwards Compatibility?

Link: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151161

What the heck? I was still waiting for Unreal Championship 2.

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 09:39 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 12:39 PM #2 of 59
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"We under promised and over delivered on that."
Yeah, who wants to play the likes of Jet Set Radio Future when Barbie's Adventure in Horse Entrails is fully compatible.

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 09:46 PM Local time: Jun 1, 2006, 06:46 PM #3 of 59
Hum, I can't be the only one that makes extensive use of the PS2 backwards compatibility feature. While I do buy new consoles to play the latest games, it sure is convenient to be able to use the same system to pop in a game like Castlevania:SoTN whenever the urge hits me.

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 09:48 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 12:48 PM #4 of 59
Oh wai- looks like this news is already crushed.

Originally Posted by some internets
Backwards Compatibility Update Coming Soon

Lots of talk about backwards compatibility online today. We wanted to get to the bottom of it all, so we went right to the team working on the next back compat update. We hear directly from them that they're in the testing phase of another update, and it should be out in the next few weeks. We saw the list they're testing, and it looks like they're hoping to add at least a dozen titles.
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We know for a fact that there are lots of people who continue to care about backwards compatibility, including the "Emulation Ninjas" who are working full time on the updates.
'Barbie's Horse Entrail Lasso Competition: The Revenge of Barbie' coming soon maybe!

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 09:50 PM #5 of 59
Oooh, a dozen.

Fuck, it should be more than 2x that amount, every month. They'll never get anywhere in the back catalogue if they work this slowly.

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 10:21 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 12:21 AM #6 of 59
Man, 12 games, that's really slow progress... Well, I'm glad that they're at least continuing with the backwards compatibility. It just doesn't feel right that an Xbox 360 cannot play all original Xbox games.

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 10:33 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 12:33 AM #7 of 59
- Psychonauts
- Shenmue 2
- Blood Omen 2
- Legacy of Kain Defiance
- Jet Set Radio Future
- Hitman Silent Assassin
- The Matrix Path of Neo
- Breakdown
- Prince of Persia The Two Thrones

That's ALL I'm asking for.

Instead of wasting valuable efforts, time and money on games that are 'easy' to emulate and that no one wants, they should try and do a poll to see what the majority of 360 owners REALLY want.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 05:01 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 11:01 AM #8 of 59
Although backwards compatability is handy, it's not as if anyone who owns Xbox games doesn't have an Xbox to play them on. Also, when the PS2 first came out, I thought backwards compatability was an awesome thing but to be honest, the only PS games that I ever played again after getting a PS2 were Castlevania, Worms and Suikoden. I'd be very surprised if there were any Xbox games I went back to after getting a 360.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 08:42 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 07:42 AM #9 of 59
I haven't tried all of my original xbox games on my 360, but I was disappointed to see that NCAA 06 Football was not compatible with it, which is strange since it did not get a release on the 360 {I bought MLB 2k6 the week before I got a 360, since my 360 purchase was totally impulse, and it is not backwards compatible, which is not surprising since a 360 version was released, just to throw out an example}. I have really only played two of my original xbox games on the 360: Halo 2 and Kotor. Kotor suffers from some slowdown, frame loss, and glitches when characters are speaking, so much so that I stopped playing it after an hour and switched back to the original xbox for it.

My primary complaint about the backwards compatibility is that I don't have room in my tv stand for a PS2, 360, Gamecube, and xbox, so I have my original xbox sitting on the floor off to the side, because I have to keep it plugged in to play my xbox games. If it weren't for that, then I wouldn't care one way or another about backward compatibility.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 10:11 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 09:11 AM #10 of 59
Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
- The Matrix Path of Neo
If it wasn't for the fact that you also listed Psychonauts I'd be driving over to your house to give you a kick in the junk right about now.

As for backward compatibility though, I'm with Shin on this. If I ever have the need to bust out an old Xbox game, I tend to use the old Xbox. Same goes for PS1 games and everything else. The consoles are already owned, and it's not like you'd be playing them all that regularily anyway, with the possible exception of games like Halo 2. Hell, I don't think I've popped anything but Halo 2 into the 360 since I got it. It's a neat feature, but I don't honestly see that many people using it.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 12:32 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 11:32 AM #11 of 59
It runs HALO, what else do you need?

And honestly, they didn't have any Microsoft employees take a single second out of their lives to make the Barbie game backwards compatible. It simply worked with the basic emulation software without needing any special tweaks, so they threw the game on the BC list. So using the "They have Barbie but not [preferred gamename], how gay!" argument is pretty stupid.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 01:04 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 03:04 PM #12 of 59
Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
If it wasn't for the fact that you also listed Psychonauts I'd be driving over to your house to give you a kick in the junk right about now.
Sure, it was buggy as hell plus let's not foget that it's 'The Matrix' after all. But some of the levels were really fun and addictive.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 01:34 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 01:34 PM #13 of 59
Originally Posted by Tube
It runs HALO, what else do you need?
Panzer Dragoon Orta, Breakdown, Otogi, Phantom Dust, Silent Hill 2/4, Beyond Good and Evil...

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 2, 2006, 03:58 PM #14 of 59
...Continued from ^

Street Fighter Anniversary, Capcom vs SNK 2, Guilty Gear XX #Reload, King of Fighters 2002/2003, Burnout 3, Metal Slug 3, Ultra Bust a Move, Dynasty Warriors 5, Capcom Arcade Classics

Really, the only reasons I have an Xbox (and I don't want to choose between re-buying everything on PS2 or having 2 massive Microsoft hunks of plastic, one of which I'd only have for a couple older games).

Although it must be said...I'm probably at least 2 years away from buying a 360 (probably more). My greater concern is the servers for Xbox 1 Live games staying up.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 04:45 PM #15 of 59
Originally Posted by GoldfishX
Although it must be said...I'm probably at least 2 years away from buying a 360 (probably more). My greater concern is the servers for Xbox 1 Live games staying up.
I highly doubt MS is going to disable the XBox 1 games' Live servers unless the game has NOBODY playing it. You're paying for Live, so why the hell would they need to turn off servers just because their new system is out?

Other than encouraging you to buy their new system, that is.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 05:53 PM #16 of 59
It was just a concern I had, since a lot of the Live games I mentioned aren't as heavily populated as, say, Halo 2. I know Sega shut down their online Dreamcast servers ages ago, so I was kind of basing my concern on that.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 06:06 PM #17 of 59
Don't you mean Sega?

Anyway, I don't really mind. I'll be getting a 360 in late-2007 and, I'll be keeping my current X-box anyway. I'm just a bit upset that Microsoft chose Barbie's Adventure over Unreal Championship and Phantom Dust, T___T

Edit: I know, I read, Devo. I'm just saying, it was just..upsetting.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 06:17 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 05:17 PM #18 of 59
Fish has a legit concern Devo, the servers that ran Steel Battalion: Line of Contact's online campaign mode were shut down last year. Now the only online option for that game is unranked random battle play.

Kinda shitty since the online campaign was rad.

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 07:00 PM #19 of 59
Didn't that have to do with the fact that that server required active maintenance and writing of new campaigns rather than the server wasn't using bandwidth or something?

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Old Jun 2, 2006, 07:34 PM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 06:34 PM #20 of 59
Like all servers, it required active maintenance, but no, new caompaigns and such were not added, it was similar to the online career in PGR3.

The point is that it was the meat of the online disc. Nixing it removes a LARGE portion of that game.

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Old Jun 3, 2006, 12:45 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2006, 09:45 PM #21 of 59
All I know is that they need to hurry up and make Counter Strike work already. Except for Halo 1 and 2, that's the only original Xbox game I made sure to keep. I played CS online a lot more than I played Halo 2.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 3, 2006, 11:48 AM #22 of 59
Considering how poorly recieved that game was for the original XBox, and how its sequel is currently the only one that Valve I think has any interest in keeping around, I'd say you're better off buying CS:S from somewhere.

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Old Jun 3, 2006, 11:52 AM Local time: Jun 3, 2006, 10:52 AM #23 of 59
Originally Posted by Peter Moore
"Nobody is concerned anymore about backwards compatibility. We under promised and over delivered on that. It's a very complicated thing... very complex work. I'm just stunned that we have hundreds of games that are backwards compatible... More are coming, but at some point, you just go, there's enough, let's move on, or people aren't as worried about a game being backwards compatible - and I like to think we've upheld our end of the bargain in making at least two or maybe three hundred games backwards compat."
He has a point. Stop living in the past, you jerks! At some point you have to realize that old games are horrible, and that the present is where it's at. The present is in fact, so great that word is Microsoft has plans to cut forward compatibility as well by saying "hey, that's enough" and scrapping all games currently in development. Customers will be able to forget the pesky past (which Peter Moore has commanded we aren't concerned about anyway) and the annoying future so that we may enjoy Xbox 360's absolutely stunning present and thank Microsoft for it.

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Old Jun 3, 2006, 12:07 PM Local time: Jun 3, 2006, 11:07 AM #24 of 59
Ahahahaha. Fucking ace, Josh.

We all know Moore just wants us to forget about all the things he's ever done in the past and failed miserably at.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 10:48 PM Local time: Jun 5, 2006, 08:48 PM #25 of 59
Those motherfuckers better add my Daisenryaku VII before they fucking pussy out on me and give up on backwards compatability. I don't have an Xbox anymore, and I want to play it again.

I honestly don't know how they can say they "over-delivered" or whatever. There was a promise that the 360 would be backward compatible with the Xbox, and now they want to just forget about it? Still not nearly enough games to consider the 360 a decent Xbox game player.

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