Sony DVD player reads "Disc is Dirty"

Lately I've been getting trouble with my Sony DVD player to play my burnt DVDs. I get a 13:00 error and "Disc is Dirty" when it is obvious the disc is utterly spotless. I even bought a DVD cleaner and cleaned through it, and it still won't play my burnt DVDs. I burn my DVDs with Verbatim DVD+R, I use DVDFab Decrytor, DVD Rebuilder + CCE, and Imgburn to burn at 4x. Everything has worked out fine in the past until very recently.

My DVD player is a couple or more years old. I've been searching for help, and some threads that come up on Google is that the DVD player is the problem. I sure hope it isn't the disc (otherwise to reburn all will be time consuming...). I also tried playing the disc on my PS2 (which is old, too) and it cannot work. But it is also Sony, so I can't rely on that. My computer reads the DVDs fine.

Any help is appreciated! I just want to be able to watch my burnt DVDs.

EDIT: Shortly after in post #3. The third part.

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When you say you used a "DVD cleaner", do you mean a lens cleaner or a disc cleaner. If you meant the latter try using a lens cleaner.

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I used a lens cleaner. My discs are completely clean.

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Okay, after obtaining some help from doom9 forums, I realized that the DVDs I have burnt just a couple of months ago no longer read on my computer. Instead, I get an error which states: "Windows cannot read from this disk. The disk might be corrupted, or it could be using a format that is not compatible with Windows."

Someone queries that my burner may be dying. I think I only burned ~300 DVDs, but this might be a conservative estimate. Does this mean that all my DVDs I've burned, maybe here on out, will be useless in a couple of months?

Double Post:
From sheer curiousity I decided to run through a spindle of burnt DVDs. To my surprise, almost every DVD I burnt from a couple months ago to even as short as a month ago are no longer playable or recognizable on my computer. I can attest that I watched a burnt DVD just a week ago, and it worked great, and now my PC won't recognize it. DVDs that I burnt very very early still work, but those burnt latest I'm afraid have already deteriorated.

Second, almost all are Verbatim +R, although that doesn't say much because I bought a spindle of those. However, I had a few Maxell -R and +R that worked fine, and were also burnt within the same time period! I don't want to feel sour against Verbatim, but with this experience, I probably will never buy their DVDs again.

Also, I have a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D burner. I don't know if that helps. Usually Pioneer burners are to be trusted and perhaps I burnt too many on these.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I couldn't change the thread title in my Sony DVD player thread, and since this is a strikingly new problem altogether I might as well start a new one.

Recently I wanted to view a DVD I burnt a couple of months ago. Now they cannot even be read in my PC. I have found out that a majority of DVDs I burnt within the last 4-5 months to even one month ago are no longer readable by my computer, Sony DVD player, or PS2.

I have a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D burner with the most updated firmware, 1.22

I used a 50 pack spindle of Verbatim DVD+R, max burning speed 16x

I burnt all of my DVDs at 4x

The burner itself have probably burnt ~300 DVDs in its lifetime, if this information helps any.

Earlier DVDs I have burnt less than a year ago still work, but those that are burnt fairly recently are unsuccessful. The most recent DVDs I burnt (last week) are still playable. However I doubt their lives can last more than a month with this sudden observation.

Any help will be great! I'm truly disappointed that almost 100 DVDs of mine have gone to waste, with data irrevocably lost. I'm unsure if the problem lies in the media or burner.

My Sony DVD player thread here may offer some more insight to this strange yet disappointing issue:
http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/he...isc-dirty.html

Surprisingly I came across another topic here that shares a very similar problem to mine, from burner to DVD media:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...6156501&page=1

I just don't know what to make of it now.

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Of all the DVD players I've worked with in the past, Sony DVD are the most picky of them all. You have to be sure of a few things, do the video files on the disc meet DVD standards. Is the media of good quality and does your burner support that media. I've come across that problem in the past with my old Lite-On DVD burner with 16X media and it wasn't supported. I've burnt 5 until I came to the point of nearly tossing that burner through the roof. Luckily I managed to get a deal on a Plextor 716A and the 16X Ritek DVD+Rs worked without a problem. Also another problem that I've come across with my Sony DVD player was on T2 Extreme Edition. I would get the disc is dirty error message, the reason for this was because DVD Rebuilder was handling ILVU or multi-angles improperly. This resulted in error messages time and time again. You can't test these discs on a PC DVD player because anything should play fine regardless, but on a Sony DVD player if it works then it'll work on all players. What I did was, got my hands on a simplistic DVD editing program called DvdReMake Pro and removed the extra angles on the disc. All Star Wars DVDs have multi-angles so you can play around with that in the meantime.

You can play around with programs such as VobBlanker, IfoEdit and PgcEdit which is a program I use to certain that the disc meets DVD standards before burning. Also be sure to run a verification test after the burn with ImgBurn because all sorts of errors can arise from bad media, to fast write speeds or damaged memory sticks.

Latest firmware for your burner is listed below...2004.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/drive/firmware/1140

I was speaking idiomatically.

It sounds to me like you've been using crappy media. Too many people make the mistake of choosing their media based on the brand name rather than the actual manufacturer.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Do you have a even single non-burned DVD to test on all these? That would be the next logical step.

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There is no need for two threads of almost exactly the same content. Merging them.

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Thanks for merging threads. Both my computer, Sony set top DVD player, and PS2 plays real DVD media fine.

After an exhaustive search of what my problems really are, I've narrowed it down to my media. I used Verbatim, which is a brand I used to trust. I've created a table of around half of my DVDs and I can clearly see that almost all my Verbatim burned DVDs are now lost, unless I can quickly save them before they are completely unreadable.

All my Maxell burnt DVDs play fine, even those of same age as the Verbatim (by same age, none of my DVDs are older than 6 months).

I'm very grieved of my loss, but it's not as if I can't get about everything back. Here I attach the conclusions of my trial/error search, which consisted of inserting every DVD I burnt since then into my computer a few times to see which read and which did not read. It's quite obvious the result.

I've read around a few forums about discs gone bad - fast.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showt...5&page=1&pp=15

The bottom of post 2 in this thread shows some grievances resulting from bad media. I guess the moral of the story is: you can't trust your burnt DVDs. :doh:

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Originally Posted by Dee

Thanks for merging threads. Both my computer, Sony set top DVD player, and PS2 plays real DVD media fine.

After an exhaustive search of what my problems really are, I've narrowed it down to my media. I used Verbatim, which is a brand I used to trust. I've created a table of around half of my DVDs and I can clearly see that almost all my Verbatim burned DVDs are now lost, unless I can quickly save them before they are completely unreadable.

All my Maxell burnt DVDs play fine, even those of same age as the Verbatim (by same age, none of my DVDs are older than 6 months).

The thing is that a Maxell disc could have been made by anyone. The same goes for a verbatim. The last spindle of Maxell that I bought were Ritek G05, which are good, but not stellar. They were stamped Made in Japan. I've seen Verbatim before now (Japan, Pastels -R x8) that were Yudens, and I've also seen Verbatim before now (Taiwan, Pearl White, -R, x4) that were actually by CMC Magnetics.

Now the upshot of this is that you want Yudens, and to a lesser extent Riteks, but you need CMC Mag like a fish needs a bicycle. You should pay as much attention to the country of origin when buying discs as to the brand. All the major resellers buy from multiple manufacturers, and multiple countries of origin.

As a rule Japan > China >>> Taiwan.

Use DVD Identifier to find out what you really got for your money. The label is no kind of a guide.

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Thanks for the input. I've read in a variety of places TY is good (Yudens). So now I'm thinking twice about backing up data. Since all of these unreadable DVDs are just movie copies, I'm not very concerned. Just pissed that I spent money to buy useless media. Most DVDs sold at reasonable prices are made in Taiwan. I'm very shocked to find that Taiwanese products can turn out like this. It's more industrialized and developed than China.

Although I did read in the cdfreaks forum that CMC is alright. Verbatim actually uses two manufacturers or something, one is CMC the other is something else. The CMC one is preferred, apparently. I also have a CMC disc according to the serial. Anyway, either I got a lousy batch or I continually burned wrongly 50x in a row, which is highly unlikely since my other brand DVDs burnt the same day are fine.

Verbatim = ARGHHHH. Can't trust them if they keep putting bad apples in the batch.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Dee

Most DVDs sold at reasonable prices are made in Taiwan. I'm very shocked to find that Taiwanese products can turn out like this. It's more industrialized and developed than China.

I pay ~28c for Ritek, or ~40c for Yudens, if I buy in packs of 100. The Ritek can be purchased locally at retail, but I have to mail order the Yudens. I recommend http://www.rima.com. They have the cheapest prices on TY media that I've seen, and I'm certain it's genuine. With regard to economic development, I don't believe that the Taiwanese cannot make good disks. It just seems that there is more profit in making crap disks. Look at Memorex.

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Although I did read in the cdfreaks forum that CMC is alright. Verbatim actually uses two manufacturers or something, one is CMC the other is something else. The CMC one is preferred, apparently.

CDFreaks and I don't really get along. I despise CMC, because of bad personal experiences. I also don't think that Ritek G05 are actually that bad, whereas they rate them much worse than CMC. The only solution is to buy the best, but I'm too cheap to do that, so I half-and-half my media solutions. The important backups go to TY, the not-so-important go to Ritek.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I also believe the people at cdfreaks are biased to a very strong degree. I start a thread about if it is really possible that my Verbatims are unreadable because they value Verbatims surprisingly second to TY. Not that my experience will matter much to forum goers, that is until a couple months later when the same exact crap will slap in their face. They just start questioning my specs, my burner, etc. According to my facts, it's really the discs' fault.

The new spindle of Maxell +Rs I bought are Ritek R03... according to the DVD Identifier. As well, cdfreaks strongly discourage Ritek R03. Now I'm unsure if I should return my other Maxell spindles.

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Before you buy entire spindles, I strongly recommend a try before you buy approach.

If the recently-burned dvds which are unreadable on your dvd drive ARE readable on others, then you should be looking to find a new burner. However, if the unreadability remains, and is maintained across different brands of readers, then yeah, it's your media.

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Anyway I went ahead and returned the rest of my Maxell spindles. Apparently my DVD drive now cannot even burn without some error or other, mainly the "Power Calibration Error". I posted a few threads on some forums about this one, but not really a justified answer other than use better media.

My recently burned DVDs are unreadable on my brother's computer, my Sony DVD player, and the PS2. I think that can show that the media must be at fault. However now with this recent power calibration errors, I still don't know what to think. I just burned fine a couple days ago with the same spindle. What gives?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Golden rules of burning.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=49635

If that doesn't help then I recommend purchasing a new DVD burner.

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