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[Movie] Spider-Man 3
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Old Jun 25, 2006, 12:43 AM #1 of 390
On a quick note, I just find it funny how DC movie trailers show for Marvel films and vice versa. Doesn't anyone else get a chuckle when they see this?

The trailer description is interesting, though I have to wonder how many CG shots will be shown, as the movie is still a year off. Unfinished sfx, here we come!!

Although it's already filled with villains, does anyone know if Lizard will show up here as well? Doc Conners was in part 2, and I would assume Raimi might delve into his transformation in some way, unless this is being saved for the second trilogy.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jun 25, 2006, 10:44 PM #2 of 390
Yea, that's what I figured.

Though him being used as a helping hand for Peter for the symbiote sounds pretty damn plausible. A good way to give him some more screen time for sure.

I still absolutely abhor the fact that a skeleton such as Topher Grace is actually supposed to be Venom though. I'd say that Josh Lucas would've been a MUCH better choice for Eddie Brock; he has the acting ability, and if he trains enough, he can have a decent body for the character.

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Old Jun 25, 2006, 11:53 PM #3 of 390
The description of Venom as "evil Spider-Man" can be debated.

Venom is not the type of person who would just go on a random killing rampage as say, Carnage would. Venom just has a warped sense of justice and morals, and he acts upon that. Doesn't necessarily make him "evil"; essentially in the same vain as Magneto.

That's about all I'll say, as a debate such as this can go on for ages, with various viewpoints and whatnot. That's my two cents, and I'm gonna take them back, because I'm a real cheap bastard

Goober...I like that. Thanks for labelling me there, bud.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jun 26, 2006, 10:32 PM #4 of 390
Originally Posted by LeHah
But they're all still villians, aren't they? The only one I can think of that would go on a killing spree is Sin Eater, and he blew his brains out years ago.



Magneto does what he does because he has a moral and ethical grounding. Venom's sense of justice is just a cheap, lame writing ploy in an attempt to make him a character to sell as a protagonist.



You also should take back your last post - because it added up to nothing.
Villians yes, but that wasn't your original point. You point was whether or not Venom was an "evil Spider-Man". Is he truly evil? Esecially considering the fact that, as you said, he's been portrayed as a protagonist many times? I wouldn't say that Venom is outright evil, just that he has a twisted sense of logic.

And I like how you seem to know what Marvel was aiming at when they created the Venom character, by using a "cheap, lame writing ploy". Did Stan Lee tell you that at some crazy late-night party or something? I'd say be grateful that you have access to insider Marvel Comics thought processes.



Oh well, I don't want this to become some kind of war of words, so I'll just wave the white flag up so that we can move forward on the subject of the film itself.

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Old Jun 26, 2006, 11:13 PM #5 of 390
LeHah, you apparently can't see that I'm taking this lightly, and see that debating this moot point is useless and does nothing for the benefit of this thread, so we should just leave it in the dirt and move on.

And I don't see how I'm trolling. Are you saying that I should instead continue to argue my point with you for as many pages as it can endure? That's just silly, and something that isn't needed for anyone here.

Apparently though, I've pissed you off in some way, and you want to continue by flagging me. I'm sure there are other posters out there who are in dire need of flagging much more than I do. But if you must, go ahead, if it'll cheer you up. I'll just move on.

Does anyone know if the Spider-Man 3 teaser will hit the web before the Superman debut? Most likely not, but there have been plenty of times where we get the occasional friendly leakage our way

I'm just hoping that they don't repeat the mistake they made with the Spider-Man 2 online teaser premiere by having it on Flash format...ughn, that was just plain ugly.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 27, 2006, 11:14 PM #6 of 390
To me, Harry looks like he received some inspiration from Sam Fisher

And Topher looks like he's got some lazy-eye action going on in his shot.

A very good teaser overall, especially considering the fact that the trailer was released so early on in the post-production process.

Don't mean to be a downer for anyone, but perhaps Mary Jane will be offed in this movie, since from what I can recall, Kirsten Dunst is only contracted for 3 movies, and I don't think she has been renewed for the 2nd trilogy.

And is that really Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy? I can hardly recognize her...looks more like Elisha Cuthbert from the angle she was shown.

The early SFX looked better than I had thought they were; Sandman looked impressive, though fairly Mummy-like. There is still work to be done on the symbiote though, as it doesn't seem to be flowing as smoothly as it could (add in a few more frames of animation on there and it should look fine).

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 01:39 AM #7 of 390
Yea, I've read about that particular plot twist a while back, and I wasn't too psyched about it.

I suppose it does give Sandman some meaning to be involved in this movie, but is it really necessary? Yes, it's a way to tie him in with Spidey's life (albeit in an obviously negative way), but to me it just seems a bit forced.

Though I can't see any other reason why all 3 of those characters would be in the same scene, so I guess that's the only way it can be worked out.

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Old Jul 28, 2006, 12:15 AM #8 of 390
I'll have to agree with everyone about the bad quality of the official Venom poster. Funny thing is I had never even paid attention to the bad overlapping job prior to reading the posts on here.

Thanks for opening my eyes...I think.

I saw over at the superherohype forums, that they were discussing how in that picture, you can faintly make out the emblem on Venom's chest. One of the guys there brightened the pic to make it easier to spot:



Certainly couldn't notice that on my dark-ass monitor, so it's interesting to see. I wonder if it's just going to stay as that shade of silver, or if they'll go with the traditional white for the emblem. I couldn't make out if they showed the emblem during the Comic-Con footage, so please correct me if it is white after all.

And just for kicks, here's an equally bad PS job of Carnage. Ugly, but certainly no better than the amateur quality from the poster



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