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[Movie] Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
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rockthepartay
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Old Sep 30, 2006, 08:47 AM #1 of 57
The most interesting thing about the movie season next year is the "battle" between the three trilogies of Shrek, Spider-man, and Pirates.

It really is up in the air on who will win, but I have a feeling that Shrek will start strong but end weak, so the real battle will be between Spider-man and Pirates. Both movies have the potential to fail miserably, mostly for the same reason (too much going on and too many sub-plots to fill in).

Anyway, Pirates 3 will more than likely be entertaining, but I hope I don't have the feeling of "well, it wasn't worth two sequels" when the credits begin to role. They have much to cover while still keeping it interesting, but I have faith that it won't become stale.

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Old Oct 5, 2006, 10:21 AM #2 of 57
I'm pretty sure that is accurate.

EDIT: Link to the ending of Dead Man's Chest on youtube.

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Old May 25, 2007, 04:35 AM #3 of 57
The disappointment that I had for Spider-man 3 does not even come close to how I feel about Pirates 3.

Man, what a let down. Talk about a movie that falls in love with its own mythology, which then leaves the characters behind as a result.

The amount of disappointment that I have is still hitting me even as I write this. Nothing seemed to work. Nothing seemed to be funny. I just didn't care by the end of the movie.

Spoiler:
Calypso was such a waste. Her resurrection totally took me out of the movie for about 10 minutes. The pirate lords were a waste as well.

The only things are the following: Barboassa, Keith Richards, and the wedding. That's it. Everything else was just goddamn lame.


I couldn't help but get the impression that they didn't actually have a follow-up story to Pirates 2, and threw this one together after the fact.
Man, I totally agree with you on that.

I also agree that the writers have reduced Jack Sparrow from being clever to just plain lucky. There is no correlation between Pirates 1 Jack Sparrow to Pirates 3 Jack Sparrow.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old May 25, 2007, 11:22 AM #4 of 57
Is it because the epic scale of special effects overshadowed the flaws in the plot for them or is it all just matter of opinion?
Yeah, I guess you can say that.

They simply go overboard on the style. There is no question on where the budget went in this movie as some did for Spider-man 3. It truly is amazing to watch. However, the humor and many characters are left behind to make room for not only the special effects, but also the writers desperate need to tell an overall boring story.

This is not the same Pirates film as the first one was. Oh, there are plenty of pirates in "At World's End," but the dialogue and characters that made the first movie so much fun are absent. At times, it feels as if I am watching a parody of what the movie could have been.

People were groaning for the movie to be over in the showing I went to. It is just too damn long. Several guys behind me were sighing throughout the movie and questioning what the fuck they were watching. I saw several people get up and leave BEFORE the epic battle, so that just tells me they did not give a shit anymore. Of course, the fanboys were all cheering towards the end, but I saw plenty of disappointed faces.

The positive review you are reading now are probably the hardcore fans of Pirates. I'm very happy for those who love this movie, because I really wish I had the same feeling.

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Old May 25, 2007, 02:15 PM #5 of 57
It was the only heartfelt sequence, and it wasn't even apart of the movie.

EDIT: Remember the episode of the Simpsons when Mel Gibson asks Homer to help him make his movie, and Homer completely ruins what was originally an amazing movie that everyone loved? You know, by adding in completely over the top stunts and making characters do things for no reason at all?

Yeah, that's exactly what I think happened to this movie.

The difference is that this movie obviously never had a test screening. The director/writers did it all themselves.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 25, 2007, 04:45 PM #6 of 57
Figuratively, of course.

You know what I mean.

In any case, I'll probably end up liking the movie more when I watch it on DVD. When I think about the film, there were some parts that I really enjoyed. It's just the little things that bothered me.

Spoiler:
They never explained the history of Beckett and Jack like I thought they would. We still don't know the mark or whatever that Jack left on Beckett.

I hated how the Kraken was killed off. It was such a threat in the second movie that to get rid of it so easily seemed poorly written.

Finally, the deaths of Governor Swann and Norrington were just poor. Nothing dramatic and we were never given a proper farewell to these characters that we've been with since the beginning.


I just feel gypped.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 29, 2007, 09:39 PM #7 of 57
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It wasn't the action bits that ruined the movie, it WAS the emotional character bits underneath.
I thought that was what I was saying, but perhaps that wasn't how it came across.

Although the PotC characters have always been boring (besides Jack Sparrow), their interactions with each other were entertaining. Not in the third movie, though, and that is why I was disappointed. And I do blame the overbearing story that demanded the special effects, although I wasn't specifically targeting the action sequences.

The emotional bits could have been better if they did not try to disguse its mediocrity with really cool action sequences and plot points that wasted time.

Why does Jack Sparrow want eternal life, even though he has made no mention of it in the other two movies? So that he can have a dazzling fight with Davy Jones! Why have Calypso in the movie at all, and a half-baked storyline for her? To have an excuse for a giant storm in the final battle! Why go to Davy Jone's locker at all? To have a cool special effect sequence while traveling there, of course!

As a result, Jack Sparrow was barely in the movie.

Yeah, he was in almost every scene after being rescued, but he was essentially pushed to the background and had very little to say or do until the the final parts of the movie. Every plot device or twist made in the movie meant little time for Jack Sparrow. But it didn't matter, because Jack Sparrow was not fun to watch in the third movie anyway.

Johnny Depp probably had more flexibility to do what he wanted with Jack Sparrow, thus the reason why the character seemed to be crap in this movie. But the fact of the matter is that most people went to these movies expecting to see him, and to clutter the story as they did made the impact of knowing Depp screwed up more disappointing.

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Old May 29, 2007, 10:52 PM #8 of 57
Didn't Barbossa say that?

Even if Jack did say that, his desire to become captain of the Flying Dutchman was not his main goal in either of the two movies and was really forced upon us.

EDIT: Are you referring to a deleted scene?

In that case, I'm not too sure I can count that as canon. I don't remember much about them, so I don't know if they conflict with anything established in the finished movie.

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