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Gordian Knot: Encoding
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 09:59 AM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 03:59 PM #1 of 22
Originally Posted by Dayvon
Also, Gordian Knot uses VFW (Video for windows) rendering which is inferior and not as high quality as CLI rendering which MeGUI uses. This alone will give you better encodes, especially when you are compressing to the sizes you are shooting for.
That's just plain wrong. There are different interfaces for video encoding and decoding. These are VfW, DirectShow and 'direct' (VideoLAN or mplayer, which have all the codecs integrated). And every interface does interface with the same code, if the x264 version if the same.
The only thing you get is a boost of performance when using MeGUI because you don't have th VfW/DirectShow overhead when compressing. Also MeGUI does better container handling.

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 05:55 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 11:55 PM #2 of 22
What container are you using? There are great tools for both matroska and mpeg4. Try mkvtoolnix for matroska and MP4Box for mpeg4. And leave the subs out at first and add them later using that tools.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 04:22 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 10:22 AM #3 of 22
Originally Posted by Dayvon
VfW IS inferior though, especially in how it handles b-frames. I haven't read up on it for a while, so I cant explain more.
Nope, you're wrong again. The problem is the AVI format. If you're using VfW to output to AVI then you get problem with b-frames. But VfW is not limited to AVI-output, you can also output the raw MPEG4 ASP stream (when encoding with say DivX, XviD, etc.) and feed it into another multiplexer (like Matroska). Then you won't have any problem with b-frame support.
That's the reason why you shouldn't use AVI in the first place, it's simply outdated and broken when handling advanced codec features. I always remux to matroska after downloading an AVI file, if the input and output modules are available.

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