[DnD] Let's Cast Magic Missile!

Can't. You can only take one extended rest every 12 hours

Besides we entered this battle with almost full resources (Garr used an item power and forgot to heal all damage). It's a combination of Pang's double-damage and hot dice rolls that's killing us...

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Originally Posted by Pangalin

Oh now I've never actually even TRIED to enforce the 12-hour rule and you know it.

Oh, you weren't the one who was enforcing it, Pang

I wish to ask about those obstructions in the chapel. Are those (quite thin) walls? Is it possible to hide in H14, for example?

Secondly, I understand the chapel has no source of illumination. Is there a way for Cal to capitalize on that (say, attack from a position of stealth, or from a position where he can't be seen, which would presumably grant combat advantage?)

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Okay, so I guess I'll ask a specific stealth question then.

In real life, it is preposterous, but rules as written, apparently I can attack a creature at B15 from H15, though it has cover. Since we won't be able to see each other (blocked by huge ass wall if you draw a line from the center of my square to the enemy square - so for all intents and purposes we are "stealthed" from each other), does such an attack gain combat advantage, and cancel out the -2 penalty from cover?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Okay. I thought that if you can do the draw lines from corner to corner thing (lines parallel to walls not being obstructed), then you can attack

Alrighty, for something less preposterous. According to the PHB, if I want to hide from Framarth, I make stealth checks, opposed by Framarth's passive perception, at the end of every move action, correct?

So, suppose I move to H17, and beat his check. Would such a situation grant a stealth bonus to attack rolls for this turn? (I understand that once you attack, you lose your stealth status.)

How ya doing, buddy?

Jesus. 109 HP. Devil dead, and Gnasc likely close to dying as well.

Cal hereby bestows his nice shiny achievement to the small bear:



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FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

Yeah, too bad I'm either doing Aegis of Ensnarement or Assault, and I'm leaning more towards Assault for fun character reasons.

While on the topic: if we happen to stay around until level 11, we only get one paragon path, right?

That's still fine. Assault Swordmagi get to occupy enemies, and punish them for not attacking the swordmagi via their Aegis of Ensnarement. Sounds like a sticky defender to me

Totally playing around with options. Wintertouched seems abusable, especially with the Frigid Blade at-will. Also, Character Builder's AUTO options need better AI. For example, it chose stupid feats like crossbow proficiency and far shot on an assault swordmage. Plus it somehow allocated 14 skill points to charisma :/ I didn't define a race, so it auto-selected a duergar, which may not be stupid but is really ironic given the current storyline

I have not even looked at Paragon tier options. I seriously doubt Cal will survive to see level 11, notwithstanding that as a ranged coward, he has the highest chance among current party members to remain alive. But I guess you can only get one - might be overpowering to get more right, especially if you start multiclassing?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

But Pang, you told me Garr bloodied him.

Originally Posted by Pidgin

(10:55:28 PM) AIM: I guess we'll find out sooner or later, but may I ask if Gnasc was bloodied by Skexis or Garr's attack?
(10:57:01 PM) Pangalin: Garr bloodied him, yeah
(10:57:35 PM) AIM: osnap, max potential HP of 116
(10:57:37 PM) AIM: danke.

This happened when he had [12 + 4 + 13 + 29 =] 58 damage in total. After Gheth's attack, he had 29 damage and was unbloodied, so he has more than 58 HP. I guess the range goes from 60 to 116, substantially more than the typical gnoll claw fighter of 46. That's why I assumed he's an elite

Otherwise Tyranny of Fire would have gone towards Framarth's throat. I guess in retrospect I shouldn't have requested Garr to change his attack, huh? Killing the Claw Fighter would have given him 5 temp HP.

Okay how's about you retroactively make Framarth not an elite (if he was one) and Gnasc the elite instead

Jam it back in, in the dark.

In that case, Pang, Cal has nothing to shoot at. Unless the minion or the remaining Devil decides to waltz in the room, I would like to delay my turn until after the Gnoll Claw Fighter moves.

And actually, I think Gordok has delayed until after Garrmondo moved. The only way he could stand up and shift as a single move action is when someone's standing on his square.

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Acer, I guess you can use Second Chance this time

Though consciousness still depends on how lucky the Gnoll AND Framarth get

Every living ally helps, since we can still force-feed Garr his potions...

How ya doing, buddy?

Yes. We summon Baphomet to kill these duergar interlopers.

You've been very lucky, Framarth. Three twenties on EACH of your attacks?!

Gordok has -24 HP on a total of 49 HP. That is -48.98% of his total. D&D says to round down, so -48%.

HE'S ALIVE!

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Pang, Skills convinced me that it's illegal to do conditional activation of poisoned weapon so long after the fact, so just a heads up that I've edited my post to poison the naughty little devil.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, there's nothing in our planned pipeline that includes resuscitating Gordok this turn, so I guess he'll have to take his death saving throw...

EDIT:

Oh man, Pang. You couldn't get a crit out of it?

WHO DOES THE FORUM DICE FAVOR? (Starting from when Pang rolled initiative in the encounter).

                  No. of   Thrown   Total   
NAME              Dice     Dice     Dice     Pct    Norm
                  Thrown   Result   Value

Garrmondo             3       33       46    71.7%  62.5%  
Acerbandit           18      153      222    68.9%  60.0%
Pangalin             83      929    1,596    58.2%  50.1%
--------------------------------------------------  average cut-off
Skexis               13      110      204    53.9%  47.0%
Zergrinch            22      178      340    52.0%  45.3%
Colonel Skills        9       61      144    42.4%  36.9%

TOTAL ENCOUNTER     148    1,464    2,552    57.4%  50.0%

Also, attention to Hawkeye, packrat, and Philia. You've unhidden the contents to my attempted Character Builder leak. Did it work?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Ah well, so long as you're occupying the enemies with your crazy moves, so that Cal can happily thwip his arrows unmolested, that should still work out

I actually created an Assault Swordmage in Character Builder for kicks and giggles. He's a crazy tank with higher AC and HP than Garrmondo, and has Aegis of Ensnarement, go fig.

How ya doing, buddy?

But I'm lying to him!

Cal sucks at diplomacy

I'm thinking I may want to move to B15 to prevent Framarth's area attacks from hitting Gordok, should he center it on me. Will I take an AoO from the Devil?

Also, I remember you rolled a secondary attack to inflict ongoing poison and slow before. Was that house-ruled later on?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Ok. I was hoping not because he last used a ranged attack. Damn natural weapons and my compassion for Gordok!

I'm doing Twin Strike, will that trigger two AoOs?

EDIT: Wait, an attack roll of 4 hits? Daaaamn.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I rolled for damage, but now I'm not sure how many dice to use. You've used 3d6 and 2d6 on the same occasion, so I guess you do the damage roll against Cal.

Additional Spam:
OK Fine. I changed the dialogue.

Does Bluff work that way then?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Cal's deeper into the tunnel, so at least give us a zoomed-out map that shows everything he sees from where he stands

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I think we'll do it more directly.

Suppose Garrmondo moves, and then uses his standard to charge, ending with Shield Bash. Will he be able to reach Framarth without running?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Pang, small correction. I activated "Yield Ground" as an immediate reaction to the Devil's immediate interrupt. (I was afraid you'd do an area attack centered on where I am, thus kapowing Garr and Glock.) So, Cal should be in B13.

Does it change the map view, if applicable?

Also, I can't think of a single round after the first where we didn't have to work to survive

I was speaking idiomatically.

Oh ok. I thought it would be permissible to double-shift through an enemy's space, because a medium sized creature wouldn't fill up the entire five square-feet space. My bad.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

If we can't drop Framarth before Gordok fails his third death saving throw, Cal will eat his longbow.

Edit: Before they slept. They had some meat and cheese I believe.

FELIPE NO

I was totally expecting a showdown at the chapel. The only reason that plan failed was because Gordy couldn't ready the run away like hell thing...

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

You caught me.

I just want him to die naoooo~~~~

(I wish I didn't roll the second d20. I forgot I had Prime Shot).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

By the way wvlfpvp, here's the build of Swordmage which I said beats the pants off Garrmondo. Granted I went anal on the accuracy bit because all his melee attacks are +13 to hit. Whattap, AC 25?

Pretty sure you can optimize even further by choosing a complementary race.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Arannis, level 6
Duergar, Swordmage
Build: Assault Swordmage
Swordmage Aegis: Aegis of Ensnarement

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 14, Dex 13, Int 19, Wis 12, Cha 8.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 18, Wis 10, Cha 8.


AC: 25 Fort: 16 Reflex: 18 Will: 17
HP: 59 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 14

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +12, Intimidate +7, History +12, Endurance +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Bluff +2, Diplomacy +2, Dungeoneering +6, Heal +4, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +7, Stealth +4, Streetwise +2, Thievery +4, Athletics +4

FEATS
Level 1: Intelligent Blademaster
Level 2: Weapon Proficiency (Bastard sword)
Level 4: Focused Expertise (Bastard sword)
Level 6: Improved Swordmage Warding

POWERS
Swordmage at-will 1: Booming Blade
Swordmage at-will 1: Frigid Blade
Swordmage encounter 1: Falcon's Mark
Swordmage daily 1: Whirling Blade
Swordmage utility 2: Dimensional Warp
Swordmage encounter 3: Shadow Snake Lunge
Swordmage daily 5: Enervating Slash
Swordmage utility 6: Armathor's Step

ITEMS
Magic Leather Armor +2, Cape of the Mountebank +1, Adventurer's Kit, Pinning Bastard sword +2
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Originally Posted by Skexis

Man, when I signed up for this thing I was thinking +7 to hit sounded pretty damn good.

Let me try my munchkining on ol' McGarnigal. Be back with the results in a few (gotta reconstruct him)...

How ya doing, buddy?

Sure, and I respect that. But I know it can get really frustrating if you can't seem to hit anything. I'm not trying to make Gheth a super-accurate guy, just trying to achieve +10 to hit if I can. I mean, in order to do roleplay, you have to survive battles first

There is one thing that reconstructing Gheth has shown me. It seems to me that his "Healer's Lore" wisdom bonus (+4 to all powers that have the Healing keyword) has never been used in battle...

Here's my half-assed attempt to boost Gheth's accuracy a bit, with +11 to non-implement spear attacks. Changed weapons to greatspear (reach 2) - though it's gonna cost him 175GP to transfer enchantment if he wishes to do it.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Gheth McGarnigal, level 6
Dragonborn, Cleric
Build: Battle Cleric
Dragon Breath Key Ability: Dragon Breath Constitution
Dragon Breath Damage Type: Dragon Breath Cold
Background: Geography - Forest, Scholarship Student, Dragonborn - Brush with the Past (+2 to Insight)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 17, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 10.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 8.


AC: 22 Fort: 16 Reflex: 13 Will: 19
HP: 56 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 16

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +8, Insight +14, Heal +12, Diplomacy +8

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +2, Arcana +3, Bluff +3, Dungeoneering +7, Endurance +4, History +5, Intimidate +5, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +2, Streetwise +3, Thievery +2, Athletics +5

FEATS
Cleric: Alchemist
Level 1: Shield Proficiency (Light) (retrained to Focused Expertise (Greatspear) at Level 6)
Level 2: Toughness
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Spear)
Level 6: Weapon Proficiency (Greatspear)

POWERS
Channel Divinity: Turn Undead
Cleric at-will 1: Righteous Brand
Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith
Cleric encounter 1: Healing Strike
Cleric daily 1: Cascade of Light
Cleric utility 2: Shield of Faith
Cleric encounter 3: Daunting Light
Cleric daily 5: Spiritual Weapon

ITEMS
Ritual Book, Magic Finemail +2, Symbol of Mortality +1, Dwarven Greaves (heroic tier), Morningstar, Flensing Greatspear +1
RITUALS
Gentle Repose
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This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.