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Old Mar 7, 2006, 09:33 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 07:33 PM #1 of 152
Neon Genesis Evangelion

I recently finished wathcing the series. The character development is what I like the most about this (sometimes abstract) anime. What does turn me off are the last two episodes.
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While the very very ending is pretty good (when Shinji learns to love himself), the constant focus on Shinji's self hatred and inner torment bothers me.
The action is very good as well, especially how the Evangelions and their pilots are linked both emotionally and physically (such as how when their pain is shared). Plus the trippy graphics add to a unique experience. Definiately light years ahead of almost all Shonen manga/anime out there.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 10:06 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 08:06 PM #2 of 152
Originally Posted by Sir VG
I watched about 15 seconds of this on Cartoon Network and have added this as another series that got ripped on the dubbing. You figure with the fanbase that this series has, they would work harder on the dubbing.
Did they work that hard on the dubbing to Naruto? No, they chose the "Get the job done" attitude without caring so much about the quality. The dubbing is acceptable in every positive and negative connotation of the word.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 08:49 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 06:49 PM #3 of 152
When I started downloading the episodes, I watched the dub version... Only because I was familiar with the English voice actors. I'll see how the Japanese voices compare once I give End Of Evangelion a try.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 09:12 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 07:12 PM #4 of 152
For those who are still confused:
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In one of the later episodes, Kaji is killed by an unknown assassin, at first I thought it was Misasto, because she recently got her gun back. After seeing her reaction though and reading up on it, Misato DID NOT KILL KAJI. Anno said that it was a hired gun from SEELE, he didn't intend for the juxtaposition of scenes suurrounding Kaji's death to confuse viewers.

I heard some freaky shit goes down in End of Evangelion, right now I'm giving the movie a download and expect it to arrive in the next 30 minutes. Hopefully it provides a better conclusion than episodes 25 & 26.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 09:27 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 07:27 PM #5 of 152
Originally Posted by Swordstalker
I dont like NGE. Shinji is not just annoying, he´s a freak.
I would never want to be in the same room with him when its dark.
Why are you worried that he would masterbate over your body?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 9, 2006, 07:47 PM Local time: Mar 9, 2006, 05:47 PM #6 of 152
Originally Posted by Lukage
There was a gunshot and they wanted to make it more gross sounding. They were doing audio rewrites on a lot of the parts (1995 remind you) that needed fixing. The gushing of the brains was just fine.



Aww come on man, where are the spoiler tags?
Actually I made no indications that it happend in the movie (though it does). Plus it happens so early that it doesn't spoil as nearly as much as you'd think (it ot like anyone dies or anything).

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 12:47 AM Local time: Mar 9, 2006, 10:47 PM #7 of 152
Dammit, the movie was the biggest trip I've ever seen. It makes FLCL look normal in comparison. After some thought, the final ending to NGE Series was better than the EoE, here's why:
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Shinji in the anime learns to love himself, a much better conclusion than him becoming the emotional wreak he did in EoE. For rejecting the Human Instrumentality porject, he chokes Asuka and then once he realizes what he is doing, she shows disgust. Both endings were by far the most abstract pieces of anime I've every seen and definately left more questions than answers for me.


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Old Mar 10, 2006, 07:49 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2006, 05:49 PM #8 of 152
Originally Posted by Yuna
That's probably what I needed to hear.
I saw it at eBay for about US$60.00, I don't have much choices of places to buy since I don't live in USA, and some of the sellers will ship it worldwide.

The Red Cross Book answers a few questions that are left in the end of the anime and the movies. I don't know about you, but I find the ending of End of Evangelion to be much better than the regular one.
Just swing by amazon.com (for your country of course) and see if you can net a good deal. There has to be some place that will ship to you for a good deal.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 09:17 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2006, 07:17 PM #9 of 152
Who do you think would make the best match for Shinji: Misato, Rei or Asuka?
Here's my thought:
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Misato, even though the age diffenece is great, she has the least conditional love for Shinji. Asuka is too demanding and Rei is too distant. Misato really cares about Shinji (as seen in a few episodes where she breaks out crying when she thinks Shinji won't come back) and supports most of decisions all the way. She was the first person in the series to really branch out to Shinji and it shows how much she loves him (even though Kaji was her primary romantic concern throughout most of the series until his death.


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Old Mar 10, 2006, 09:31 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2006, 07:31 PM #10 of 152
Originally Posted by Soluzar
[AOL]Me too![/AOL]

I can't add anything to what you just said, other than to speculate as to whether Shinji might prefer Asuka in spite of her demanding nature. There are plenty of hints in the series that his crush on her is both major and lasting.
EoE shows Shinji's strong preference towards Asuka. He clings to her, even though she is the most abrasive towards him. Maybe he likes redheads

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Old Mar 11, 2006, 07:38 PM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 05:38 PM #11 of 152
Originally Posted by Soluzar
Yeah. Her demanding nature and her other personality quirks don't make her any worse than some girls I dated myself. They'd get along just fine.
Well you forgot to mention her immense abandonment and low-self esteem wissues. Of course who doesn't have those issues in NGE?

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Old Mar 11, 2006, 09:50 PM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 07:50 PM #12 of 152
Originally Posted by Lukage
Kaji.

No worries, no cares.

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Planting flowers during the invasion of NERV, NEVER SHAVING! (Totally a spoiler)
Well yeah, but this series contains more anguish than even the national news. It's funny how much crap each of the main characters can go through without commiting suicide.

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Old Mar 12, 2006, 09:24 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2006, 07:24 PM #13 of 152
Here's one thing that bothered me about EoE:
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When Rei merged with Lilith, she was nude for the rest of the movie. I'm just not into naked 14-year-old girls, it's like they wanted adult men want to bone Rei or something.


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Old Mar 15, 2006, 02:03 AM Local time: Mar 15, 2006, 12:03 AM #14 of 152
The one real strength about this show is the music. I just can't stop listening to NGE: Decade, it has some of the best songs and with a few 10th anniversery editions thrown around. My current favorite song is Tamashi no Rufuran, gets the beat just right and has plenty of dramatic tunes. I'd say music plays as much as a role as it did in Cowboy Bebop.

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Old Mar 15, 2006, 07:20 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2006, 05:20 PM #15 of 152
Originally Posted by Lukage
I've got the Rei Ayanami BED SHEETS!

*creepy*
It's like they're compelling adult men to have a pedophiliac lust for Rei. Think about it, EoE, the many scenes of her in revealing suits. They should have pimped Misato much more than they did.

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Old Mar 16, 2006, 11:08 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2006, 09:08 PM #16 of 152
Originally Posted by chato
i heard about this a long time ago then i started getting the dvds one by one. Rei Ayanami would be my favorite character in this show. the story had alot of potential. i didn't check out the END of Eva yet( yeah i know.. ) since i heard that everyone pretty much dies. this anime is pretty much on the top list of best anime close to Akira. The music was a strong point in this series.. i also want to check out the platinum dvds since there are extras and im dying to know what it is.

A few characters were alright.

Shinji - definition of angst,lonliness and concern. either way ..i respect the guy for fighting back at anyone even if he runs away the first time lol.

Toji suzuhara - i only wish him and the eva pilots would fight together =/.

Kaoru Nagisa -
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im glad his head got popped off


Misato - definition of sexy and badass major.

Gendo Ikari - although Rei's my favorite.. Gendo is indeed the best charcter of the anime ,period.
I actually liked Kaoru Nagisa's personality. He had an awkward way of reaching out to Shinji, which made Shinji feel loved (and more comically gay). That is of course:
Spoiler:
Until Kaoru decided to reveal his true nature, as an angel. Shinji seemed more hurt by this than any other betrayl (yes he was pissed off when Gendo forced him to destroy Eva Unit 3, but he was much more pissed than upset). I especially like how they played music for about two minutes until Shinji finally decided to kill Kaoru.


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