[PS2] Ace Combat Thread (a.k.a. We Do Not Have Air Superiority)

*was JigokuKarasu*


Well, after playing ten missions so far, I must say this game is FUN. It seems namco brought the best elements from AC 4 and AC 5 and put them together in this game. Now I see these reviews and what not saying how it's 'exactly the same' as the other games. Well...that's a half truth to me. Yes, it uses AC 5's graphic engine [and by the looks of it, they touched up a bit on it, because the plane models look more detailed, as does the scenery], but I dont think it should be looked as a game that SHOULD be totally different. It's a game that's for the fans in my opinion. People who loved AC5's story will probably love this game, because it is such a story driven game that creates the events in 5 with Osea and Yuktobania. That's where Namco I believe were aiming this game at, but that doesn't mean people new to AC can't enjoy this game. It's kinda like Star Wars I guess in the way that the prequels came after the originals.

Overall I'm really impressed with the game, and i'm trying hard not to beat the game in one day, but...I dont know if I can't. Lol, at least the replayability is amazing in this game.


My one con to this game is of course...it's packaging. It's nice and kinda crappy at the same time. If you look closely at the back it uses the picture of the radar screen that is in the beginning of AC 5...which has nothing to do with this game's story at all [seeing SAND ISD. and CAPE LANDERS is kinda dumb to me].

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yea, this AI is a bastard....The Aces were ALL over me. And yea, Excalibur got me too, hahaha. The Laser got that tanker and I moved outta the way, but the second it came, I was too low to the ground, and didn't have enough speed. Sure enough, it zapped me, and I crashed .


Oh and that Ace profile thing is very very nifty. I find it funny that one of the Aces of the war is now a car salesman. I feel so bad for that guy. I'd much rather be up in the sky than selling minivans, lmao.

How ya doing, buddy?

Oh and I just wanna say for the record that:

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That level with the Belkan Nuclear Bomb going off, was INSANE. We all knew it was coming, but to be in that was surreal. It was very interesting when that light flashed and your communications and HUD was going berserk. But I would think that even though Cipher and Pixy were far away, the EM Pulse from the bomb would have made their jets go down. Not only that, but also the shockwave of the bomb. Either way...that was a mission where you really wanted to go into the game and kick the shit out of whoever made that messed up order.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Like Rei no Otaku I am wondering

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What did happen to PJ? did he die when he got shot down by Pixy? If that's the case, that sucks. PJ was funny with his girl troubles and his squad teasing him about it, hehe

Oh and this is something else I noticed after beating the game again

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I think Pixy is fighting the Usean-Continental war (aka AC4), because he is for one fighting in Usea, and the building he's being interviewed in, has an ISAF flag on top of it. Isn't that a kick in the pants? That's one of the awesome things about this series, there's always something connecting each game with one another. Well if i'm right too, at least we know Pixy is on the good guys this time around, hehe.

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It might be a quick game, but I think what makes it long maybe is the missions that have multiple sub missions, so you can to play one...see what that's like, and then next time you play, you try out the other sub mission. So if you think about it...it's 18 missions plus the three missions that you get to choose from in certain missions.

How ya doing, buddy?

I think the thing with AC 5 is they did EVERY mission you could really think of...even terrorist missions, which yea..are kinda boring, but fun the first time around lol.


And for the record...getting the supreme soldier medal is gonna be a pain, but i'm sure i'll get it lol.

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Hmm...i'll have to try that. Using bombs and what not instead of missiles. I must admit, Avalon was a pain because between getting all the gun towers, the aces and the targets in the dam, it left very little time for me to take it it with patience.

FELIPE NO

Oh I use the triangle button all the time when dog fighting, it helps me yaw better and turn into the fighters. Ever since AC3, . And yes, The SUPER Tomcat is in the game. It's pretty badass, it has some cool paint schemes so far including...the Razgriz paint scheme !

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

You know what's unfortunate? In the long missions [Bastion, Lying in Deceit] instead of continuing on with the mission and racking up more points and money, you hit that certain point mark, and that's it. You stop. I don't see why they couldn't just allow you to continue flying, like in the AC 4 missions, Whiskey Corridor and Invincible Fleet.

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Each game has it's story, but for some reason...I really was drawn to AC 5's. Options, Planes, and Gameplay aside...It really is a story I think as human beings, we should take very much into consideration. I mean, the theme of The Unsung War is IMO, peace. I think the game producers and director really wanted to get that across. Yea, some people might think it's cheesy that Nagase, Archer or Chopper kept on talking about peace, but I think it's something we should strive for in this world. I mean, who's to say there won't be a country that would do something drastic like using WMDs on their own selves? [Well I guess Iraq comes to mind] Anyway, I just think that the theme of the game should be what's important, and be noticed by all who play it.

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Yea, Avalon's music is epic sounding and makes you feel like you're in the Climax of a war film. And as someone said, Zero is more about the glory of being a pilot and choosing what kind of pilot you are, rather than fighting a war with unanswered questions, and what not.




and for the record....the mission Merlon is a pain the frickin' ass, and i'm on Expert only. WTF, mate? It's not hard in 'normal' and 'hard' mode...but for some reason, I just cannot get around the Excalibur at all. I love the fact this game is ridiculously challenging...but this laser is pissing me off lmao.

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Like someone said, the game Zero revolves around the glory of being a pilot and fighting against other pilots, where as The Unsung War is about peace and how we must strive for that. I do agree though that Avalon is very epic with the music going on. You feel like you're in the climax of a movie.


And for the record....the mission 'Merlon' on expert is a pain in the ass. The Exaclibur laser keeps on getting me, and I'm trying so hard to avoid it. I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong either. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this challenge in this game, it's by far the best AC when it comes to that...but this laser thing is pissing me off, lmao.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just figured it out. I wanna slap myself, because it's so simple to avoid the laser when you're NOT keeping the afterburners on non-stop. lol

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Megalith

Too bad Zero is the easiest in the series.

Uh, not really no.



Anyway, what do you guys think about the music of Zero? Me personally, it's really starting to grow on me. Some songs like, "The Inferno", "Excalibur" "Avalon" "Glacial Skies" and "Zero" are just amazing. I even pre-ordered the soundtrack, I like it so much lol. I find these songs to actually more of an epic feel. That's just me though.

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Well since Sony has a rival now [Mircosoft], they'll have to compete in the online gameplay wars. Trust me, the PS3 will have an online capability...it's just up to Namco to see if it can do it with Ace Combat. I think they can. I think the only obstacle for Namco would be running a server for 'battlefields' and for players to go in and fight. I've always thought how amazing it would be to get your AC friends and play all at once in one huge squadron of online players and fight against another huge squadron of online players in one huge air battle.

Hmmm, an online battlefield taking place at B7R, The Round Table....your friends picking a squad of Su-37s and going in to help your main online squad. Hehehe...man, that would be...ethereal.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yea, lag would be a concern of mine as well...hopefully between the Ps3's power, and the ethernet cable connection that's with it...it will keep things as stable as possible. And like Mobius One said, it would be nice to have varied online missions as well. Bombing missions, Escort Missions, CTF...etc etc.


As for versus mode...to be honest I hope in the next AC installment, that they'll have the third person and/or cockpit view instead of the HUD view as being the only selection to play. I only like using HUD during tight space missions such as Megalith, Avalon..etc.



And for the record...I am having such a blast discussing and agreeing with you guys on this particular forum. Seriously, i've been to the other popular AC sites such as AC.net [which is ACskies now] and hell, even the Namco forum. I gotta admit...most of those people there are either ignorant as hell with saying crap like "OMG, MOBIUS ONE IZZ DA BESTT, HIM AND BLAZE KNOW EACH OTHER" or "NAGASE WOULD BE HOT NEKKID" or you have these opinionated Right-Wing military kids who just don't get the core stories of these games, and just have all this fake patriotism going around. It's so aggrevating, and...weird to see THESE type of fans flocking to this game.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Yea I don't get that forum...they're very obnoxious and rude. I remember their previous admin [Shadow] banned me from there, because I defended myself against those Right-Wing people, and he thought it was causing a war and flaming...yet he did nothing to them. Go figure at favoritism.


For the record, I love the fact I played AC 4 and 5 and beat them. Now, the ADFX-01 and ADF-01 reside in my plane buying hangar. I playfully tried out the Morgan [I had the money to try], and it's not too bad. I didn't save the game though, because i'm saving up for other planes, but since I have the Gauntlet now...I assume I'll need the Morgan for facing Mobius One.

FELIPE NO

Eh, most new forums die fastly...and this one might because of the fanbase it's directed to [we're not that big, you know?] Hehe.


BTW, I frickin' love that avatar, Mobius. Hahahaha, Colbert FTW xD

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Those kids at ACskies, care more about the airplane and how 'patriotic' the games can be, rather than the real story of the game, that's why they bitch about how pacifistic AC 5 is. They don't seem to get that Osea's Air Force was more of a defensive Air Force than a Offensive.

I don't get why this game attracts all these right-wingers.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Not to change subjects, but I took someone's advice and did The Gauntlet with the Falken. I gotta admit...it was pretty anti-climactic. The laser shot off Mobius 1 instantly. That didn't feel right. However, when I went to re-arm my laser, he unleashed SO MANY MISSILES. That was crazy, and I thought I would be dead... lol.

I think however, i'll use the Su-37 against all the aces again.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Maybe with Namco...they were just looking for normal, nothing over the top, type of vocals...whereas with Square, they want to try and 'outdo' themselves, or something. Who knows what's with them, all I know I would have preferred an english/japanese vocal choice like in Ace Combat. There, I said it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

To be honest, I don't have the flight stick...however i'd love to see how it plays on an Ace Combat game. I'm curious, how do you yaw with it? I use yawing a lot, so i'm curious as to how it's done with the stick.

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I dont see why people think this game is boring and easy. It has to be one of the most challenging AC games, it's AI is just ridiculously good, because it really FIGHTS BACK. Not only that, but the game is very action-oriented, and doesn't go stale at all during missions.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Exactly, it's the replay value of the game that makes it so damn good. And Megalith..you make it sound like getting those medals are supposed to be challenging...um, it really isn't. And you also said how it was easy to get the Wvyern, well yea..if you have the AC 4 and 5 saves, it's very simple.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Eh, until there is offical word that Ace Combat 6 is in the making...i won't be hyping up until then. lol.


Alright, discussion time for AC6, with questions!


1. Where would you like the next game war to be taken place at? [For instance, do you want to see them have a war back in the Osean continent? Or the Usean continent? Or maybe a totally new country like Wellow or Verusa?

2. Do you want the war to still remain in the 'present' time [aka, around 1995-2015] Or in the future?

3. Do you want to have a massive dogfighting arena for online, or selected online missions with fellow friends, or both?

4. Do you want the AI to be harder than ever?

5. Do you want there to be..more realism in the controls, instead of having arcade style controlling?

6. Mercenary or part of a military squadron?

7. Do you want a heavy storyline that is deep and complex, or something simplistic that gets right to the action of the game?

9. Do you want music that is epic and powerful like a war movie, or music that gets you pumped up for a dogfight?

8. Am I getting this for Namco? [lol]


Just something to keep this thread going...lets not have it die, you know?

FELIPE NO

No, I doubt AC 4's story will be back as a sort of 'sequel'. The only reason you see so much allusions is because it's so popular. I mean, Ridge Racer has Ace Combat 3 allusions all over it, but they haven't made a sequel to that game, you know what I mean?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I'm pretty sure Pixy and Wizard 1 both were in the process of making this rebellion during the time of the Mayhem mission. Maybe if you think about..Wizard 1 wanted this immeaditly, and Pixy was still iffy about it, hence the "Not just yet" part. Maybe he still felt there was no need for 'no boundaries'.

I think however in the Inferno mission, he then came to the conclusion that the world doesn't need the superficial borders these countries put on each other. After the mission, I bet and Wizard 1 went on ahead with the plan, and then..you have the Apocalypse mission.

Jam it back in, in the dark.