Split:Was Czecholovakia part of the Soviet Union? Or: Semper is still an idiot.

Yeah, I know this is Croatia, just saying they're from the same region, lol. I think it'd be a mistake to underestimate these guys after seeing how the U.S. got demolished yesterday by Czech.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

See the difference there Devo is that Eastern Europe was once "united" by something called communism. This parallel doesn't work for the U.S. and Mexico or the rest of North America because there was no communist bloc around here unifying the nations. Get it?

Oh, and I don't watch much soccer, heh. I live in the U.S. damnit.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm not talking about NATO.. I'm talking about the former Soviet Union. Way to go misconstruing what I said and getting cleats in your balls.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Wait, do you see the point I'm trying to make here? I'm asserting that I'm surprised countries that nations in the former Soviet Union made it to the World Cup. I don't know why you're bringing in all this extraneous shit.

Okay, now, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia
But since, you're amazing on going off on tangents, I'll pinpoint it for you.



Yeah, you're right about the Warsaw Pact, but it is incontrovertible that Czechoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

This is like the equivalent of a gorilla ripping off your genitals here, buddy. Quit it.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Right. If I was a country and was a "satellite nation" of a bigger entity, I AM IN NO WAY TO BE AFFILIATED WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED ENTITY DESPITE THE FACT THAT I AM POLITICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY DEPENDENT ON SAID ENTITY.
This is the crux of your argument, and it's absolutely unconvincing.



A Satellite nation is a country that is dominated politically and economically by another nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_nation

edit: And if you're under a country's influence, you're basically their bitch or a smaller reflection of them, thus, in practice, Czechoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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You're really overestimating the Soviet Unions grip on Czechoslovakia and assuming that just because it's a Satellite Nation it must have been totally dominated by the USSR when that's not the case. Stop looking up definitions and automatically applying them to history without reading up on the country you're labeling.

Yes, Stalin and the communists had a nice grip on Czechoslovakia politically but they were hardly the USSR's bitch or economically pilaged by the USSR.

Am I? Is 600,000 troops storming the nation and indefinitely occupying it not good enough to be considered being under the thumb of the Soviet Union?

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The program was well received in Czechoslovakia and was praised by Romanian, Yugoslav, and Western European Communist Parties. However, the Soviet Union and other Warsaw Pact countries became angry learning that this kind of liberalization could spread. Czechoslovakian leaders stood firm in their reform policies and tried to appease the hard-line Soviet Communists by pledging to maintain the Communist Party as the leading force in Czechoslovakian politics and by promising to continue its alliance with the USSR and the Warsaw Pact nations.

The Soviet Union and its other Warsaw Pact allies were not satisfied with Czechoslovia's promise and decided to put an end to the "Czechoslovak Experiment." On the 20th August, 1968, 600,000 Soviet, East German, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarian troops invaded and occuped Czechoslovakia. Resistance was, for the most part, not violent, although twenty-five Czech and Slovaks were killed. Dubcek was abducted and taken to the Soviet Union.

Soviet troops were to remain in the country indefinitely. In April 1969, Dubcek was officially replaced as Party Secretary by another Slovak, Gustav Husak, who became president in 1975. Husak's government entirely reversed the reforms of the Prague Spring. Reformers were purged or punished and the country became a tightly controlled suuprter of the USSR.

http://library.thinkquest.org/10775/czecslov.htm

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Why? Would it shock you to know the USSR was itself a power in football?

Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, I didn't think that Eastern Europeans even had time to play soccer. Of course that's all changed now but it's relatively a quick recovery. It's good stuff, of course.

How ya doing, buddy?

Actions and actual events are far stronger than some words retelling the facts with a different interpretation.

And if you're going to discredit Think Quest over a spelling error, I laugh at you.

FELIPE NO

I got a source that delves deeper than any factbook because factbooks just give the gist of a country's history in a summary. You can discredit the source all you want over a spelling mistake and the fact that it isn't a factbook, go ahead.

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Czechoslovakian leaders stood firm in their reform policies and tried to appease the hard-line Soviet Communists by pledging to maintain the Communist Party

Yeah and appealing and appeasing the communist government to maintain the communist party is twisting the facts right?

So what if I lowered my standard of proof, you are the funny guy that totally disowned the Soviet Union from Czech's history. I'm still sticking to my guns because it's hard to deny that the Soviet Union had some design over Czechoslovia.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?