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[Wii] Modding the Wii. Mine has go-faster stripes and a massive spoiler
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Elixir
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 07:47 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 01:47 AM #1 of 62
Personally I wouldn't bother getting one just yet. Your console is still under warranty and there isn't any region specific games that you're going to want to play. The Japanese Wii games aren't as desirable as the hot imports for DS, like Ouendan, Taiko no Tatsujin, etc.


...maybe at the end of the year. In any case Wiikey is probably the best, since I keep hearing things about it. Apparently it only has partial support for games though (but GC games work fine).

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 08:00 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 02:00 AM #2 of 62
Aardark, did you know: there isn't a large amount of worthwhile games on the Wii worth pirating, to justify modding it, nor is there a large amount of imports to justify it either. And when the good games roll out (at this rate it's few and far between) I'd just buy them.

It's like the Gamecube. Who actually MODDED a freaking Gamecube? When the good games came out, people just bought them.

Still wouldn't recommend it to people with consoles under warranties. It isn't so much the fact that Wiis have a tiny failure rate or anything (even though there's overheating and green pixel issues, they're rare) I'd still take precautions and get the full price of what I paid for out of the console.

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 09:52 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 03:52 AM #3 of 62
Have they done that yet? I heard about them killing the Freeloader, but not modchips for the Wii. Apparently the Wiikey can be updated via burned dvds, to counter stuff like this, according to their description of the thing on their site.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 10:18 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 04:18 AM #4 of 62
What.

There's absolutely no point in modding a Wii if there's no good games to pirate.

And the good games should be bought (of course) but since the Wii is so new it doesn't have much on offer. Also, with the Wii you can't rent a game and copy the information to drive and burn it, unless you have a specific dvd burner. I think only certain LG dvd burners work.

Personally I don't want to void my warranty because my country doesn't have a Nintendo base here. It goes through a piss useless secondary company. I'm also not too keen on modding the first version of a console (I modded my PS2, which is SCPH-30001R, and even that's old).

I would mod my Wii and 360 if I knew it was future proof. But seeing as how these consoles are capable of going online, it's a little different. I still say - wait it out. The Wii will get good games, newer modchips will become available, and newer Wii models will become available. It depends on whether you have the following:

- Cash to buy a specific DVD burner and
- Know-how of installing it or
- High speed internet to download games
- Cash for modchip
- Know-how for modding the Wii, or
- Cash to have it installed for you
- Lack of care for warranty

This doesn't kill the whole "Wii not having very many games on offer" thing, but if all these things fit you , then sure, you might as well go for it.

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 06:00 PM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 12:00 PM #5 of 62
Kororinpa has been out in Europe for over 6 months, in fact, it arrived there before America. >_>

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 06:22 PM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 12:22 PM #6 of 62
edit: With a mod chip, can you emulate games that are available in the VC?
Yes, which pretty much defeats the entire fucking purpose of VC, lol

There's this Gamecube disc with a bunch of SNES roms and an emulator, so basically, if a Wii can read that it can play SNES games. They've also managed to rip the information of actual VC games but there's no way to use them so far. I suppose there will be some way of doing so with SD media in the future.

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 05:08 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 11:08 PM #7 of 62
Originally Posted by Grawl
I'm not sure if you work at all, but that's just a matter of hours (at most).
Look, I'm not the one pirating Wii games here. I would buy them when they came out. But right now I don't like a lot of the Wii games available. Nothing really sticks. It's called "good taste".

Originally Posted by Grawl
I bought a modded PS2 that's a phat model and I used it ever since to play and finish Kingdom Hearts 2, test around 70 games I burned and will never play, and play quite some hours in Final Fantasy XII. Plus we use it as a DVD-player. And we have our odd game of Buzz, Tekken, Guilty Gear etc. First models are the best, basically.
uh, lol what

"I have a larger styled PS2 console and it's modded, so the first models are the best" does not equal "I have a larger PS2 console which means it's the first model available."

There's a number of different models (model numbers, this should have been painfully obvious) for the larger PS2, as well as the slimline. They're constantly updating the console and releasing newer versions.

Same with the Wii, there's two versions. One which is the original, another which was released in June that cuts out the ability to mod to some extent.

I'm not in a position to be wasting bandwidth on games I'm only going to play once or twice. If you get an hours enjoyment out of burning a couple of mediocre Wii games, go for it. I still don't see the point. People are weird.

Coincidentally, the only Wii game I own is Kororinpa. PANDA BALL

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 05:59 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2007, 11:59 PM #8 of 62
The point behind piracy is getting something for nothing, or very little. In this case, Wii games. Is it really so hard to understand?

I don't know if you're trying to advocate buying the actual games or if you're just being ridiculously snobby regarding what people play.
Let's be honest here, there's what, about 5-10 Wii games which are actually worth playing, give or take a few? Honestly, there isn't a lot out there. The console is new. Being critical of releases, I'd only play Warioware, Super Paper Mario, and Kororinpa. Maybe Twilight Princess.

I don't see the point in getting a modchipped Wii to play a bunch of mediocre games when you could simply rent them for one or two weeks and be done with it. It's TOO EARLY, it would be like modding a PS3 if it were possible. Whether you're modding to import and buy games out of your own region, or whether you're going to pirate. Either way, not enough games.

And one year on the modchip means one year on the modchip, not the console. But since I haven't heard of Wiis kicking the bucket that probably isn't an issue. Can Nintendo tell if a console has been opened and tampered with (after a modchip has been removed)?

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 06:21 AM Local time: Aug 17, 2007, 12:21 AM #9 of 62
Renting games costs money! So does buying and installing a mod chip, you might argue. Pirate one or two Wii games that you like and you've recovered the cost. Plus, you still have the game. Rent one or two Wii games and you're out however much it cost to do so, and you have to return the game at some point.
Yeah, you're right. I'll probably end up modchipping my Wii later in the year since I have a bunch of American Gamecube games I'd like to continue playing (Metroid Prime 1, F-Zero GX, etc). Now that the Freeloader doesn't work they're just going to sit there and collect dust. Plus, finding Gamecube component cables is damn near impossible.

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Old Sep 25, 2007, 05:35 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2007, 11:35 PM #10 of 62
Can someone tell me if I'll have any issues running Super Paper Mario (original american copy) on a PAL Wii with Wiikey? I'm contemplating getting my Wii modded, mostly so that I don't have to worry about my Gamecube any more, but I'd also like to get SPM as well. I heard it's possible to brick the Wii. Any insight?

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Old Sep 25, 2007, 07:31 AM Local time: Sep 26, 2007, 01:31 AM #11 of 62
If you have to upgrade a game before playing it, how will the modchip counter it?

I'm also contemplating getting a modded Wii, but am still undecided. I would love to buy a US Wii because even if I were to buy all my Wii games from dvdvboxoffice, they'd still cost less than buying PAL games here.

I've found no useful info on what issues this brings with it. Voltage differences, whether VC and online play works at all, if the US Wii even gives out RGB (as I don't have a TV with component input) through scart etc.

This could be solved by getting a PAL Wii that's been modded, but I'm a little unclear on whether this brings more of its own issues with it (besides the whole "hopefully I can choose not to update when I want" thing).
The Wii has an external power supply, so it SHOULD be able to run in any location with that location's power supply. My Japanese 360 came with a 110v power supply, but I use a 220v power supply which can be bought separately, and it runs fine. I'm pretty sure it applies to all other consoles so long as their power supplies are external.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Sep 25, 2007, 09:26 AM Local time: Sep 26, 2007, 03:26 AM #12 of 62
I was talking about using a foreign game on a modchipped PAL Wii. I want to know if I can play Super Paper Mario without anything fucking up.

I think you forgot to mention the sole purpose of this modchip: region free.

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Old Sep 26, 2007, 10:04 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2007, 04:04 PM #13 of 62
Actually I heard that if you already have the firmware installed, you won't need to worry about Super Paper Mario. As in, I saw someone mention that you should update first before inserting the game, and then you won't need to update at all.

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We just became aware of an issue with Super Paper Mario that has just been released in the USA. It works fine on US consoles. But if you want to play this game on a PAL or Japanese Wii, be it from an original disc or a backup, make sure you upgrade your Wii firmware to the latest available version before inserting the game.

The game contains an NTSC-U Wii update that is not compatible with early European and Japanese Wii firmwares. Failure to upgrade your Wii with the latest firmware before running Super Paper Mario USA on an import system can result in a bricked Wii.

This issue is not specific to CycloWiz, you'll have the same problem with any other region free mods/tricks. It doesn't brick the chip, but the Wii itself, so be very careful !
Also, I highly doubt it's possible to use WiiBrickBlocker with a legit copy.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 28, 2007, 11:06 AM Local time: Sep 29, 2007, 05:06 AM #14 of 62
Ok, I just modded my Wii for lulz and because I'm bored and don't really have anything better to do right now.

Everything works so far. Well, sort of. I updated to the unofficial 1.9b firmware and then used the 1.3 config disc to set everything up accordingly - even saw Snes9x listed in there, too. So far I've tried the following Gamecube games, and they all work 100%:

Shikigami no Shiro II (JP)
Ikaruga (JP)
Chibi Robo (US)
F-Zero GX (US)
Metroid Prime 1 (US)

However, F-Zero GX froze at the character select screen before I did the updates. It loaded just like a normal game, but regardless of being in progressive scan mode or not, it still froze. I don't know which update fixed this.

I haven't tried any Wii games yet (haven't downloaded/imported any) but I'm sure they will be fine. In any case I've future-proofed myself in case there's awesome Japanese games which won't be released here but I'll want to play regardless.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Sep 30, 2007, 09:02 AM Local time: Oct 1, 2007, 03:02 AM #15 of 62
Basically don't update the Wii firmware via any game. Connect to wifi, and update that way. But first, I'd check around different forums (I can't think of any that I'd bother with aside from blackcats) to see if there's any bricking due to an update. There's always going to be a message pop up asking you if you wish to download the latest update, so that's when you need to be cautious.

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Old Sep 30, 2007, 02:48 PM Local time: Oct 1, 2007, 08:48 AM #16 of 62
WiiBrickBlocker? I searched around for that but all the download links were dead. Anywho yeah I've heard about it. It won't be too useful on legitimate games though.

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Old Oct 1, 2007, 05:55 AM Local time: Oct 1, 2007, 11:55 PM #17 of 62
Visit WiiSO for all your further modding needs.
Done, but I still can't find the answer I'm looking for. I have a PAL Wii and I recently burned MP3 to a disc. On my Wii, it wants to update. I already have 3.0E though. So the question is, what next? Someone on that forum you linked me to said that they've updated with a PAL console before, but that's just one person. Since you've probably done it before, I need your advice.

Also, sources are telling me that there's no way you can play MP3 properly if you're applying BrickBlocker to it, because it messes up the binary data figure.

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Old Oct 1, 2007, 07:51 AM Local time: Oct 2, 2007, 01:51 AM #18 of 62
Bah, I'll just have duplicate Weather channels then. I don't care.

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