[General Discussion] What, you found some gold? Tell the others, we'll all eat gold tonight!

One of my favorite games during this generation was Rez. It was a unique experience which can be replayed over constantly and won't become old. The style runs a lot like Panzer Dragoon, an on-rails shooter. It's pretty easy to pick up and play.

One of the few reasons to own an xbox was for Jet Set Radio: Future. While I enjoyed the first game, I didn't really like the style. I thought the second one had a better OST, and it waas so much larger. The original's great, really, but the second title did everything right. The controls, music, customization of tags, everything. I spent so many hours on this game you'd think I were playing an RPG.

Panzer Dragoon Orta is a title you're either going to love or hate. Not everyone digs the restriction of on-rail shooters, but there's ways to counter this without it being a free-range game. The language is beautiful, and the story well told. Thes econd chapter is especially stunning with the plant life and different creatures. This game's moderately difficult as well.

There's a game which once in a blue moon, delivers everything you could possibly want. A great story, multiple endings, extreme customization, funny humour, post-game activities, and Item World. Disgaea is just the kind of game which does this. The characters are well designed and detailed, and as are the levels (which were hand-drawn prior to being turned into actual stages). The game's 2D feel is great, and the sheer amount of hours you can get out of this title is absurd.

Gitaroo Man is one of the most entertaining and hard games I've ever encountered. The main game itself isn't hard, but Masters Play is fucking ridiculous. The range of songs ranges anywhere from jpop to rock to jamacian. I think it does a good job of being a unique, quirky little rhythm game which seemingly went under everyone's radar.

Okami is a visually stunning japanese-esque title. It's rare that I see games of this kind venture outside of japan, but I'm glad it did. I haven't completed the game myself, but the story so far is great. I'm loving the graphics and the cel-shading they've done on this game.

The screenshots here don't do Under Defeat any justice whatsoever. This is one of the last games released for the Dreamcast, and one of the most beautiful ones too. It's a helicopter vertical shooter which allows you to change your angle of shooting in a 90 degree radius. You can lock it into place by continuing to hold fire, and you can deploy a "pod" which also shoots at things if you refrain from shooting for a certain period of time.

One of the most beautiful and difficult games of this generation is Ikaruga. Some say that chaining is all that's going for it, but ultimately they suck and don't realize that this is about BLOWING SHIT UP. As hard as the game is, the incentive to clear the entire game on a single credit remains. It really tests your eye coordination as well. I just wish Treasure would release an OST of Ikaruga because Ikaruga's OST is fucking amazing and really fits the feel of the game. And surprisingly for a shooting game, it has a rather detailed story.

There's a fair few games I'm missing here. Honorable mentions are Mushihimesama, Ace Combat Zero, F-Zero GX and Shadow of the Colossus. I'm trying to avoid games I haven't completed/played thruogh since I can't give a proper opinion on them. I'm forgetting a few others as well, but whatever.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Available for Wii,, PS3 and GCN!

I'm pretty sure this thread is for Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox/Gamecube games, not Wii games.

Additionally this game scored a 5.3 and it isn't available for PS3 like you say.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

I don't think Disgaea counts as a buried treasure there, Lix.

It was over here, at least. Koei released a grand total of 14 copies of Disgaea on PAL, which was inferior to the american release since it was printed on a CD-R, blue based disc without japanese voice options.

Then suddenly a year or two later, everyone wants it again. Prices of Disgaea on ebay are ridiculous, even though Atlus has reprinted it a few times. The demand for the game is pretty insane compared to the day of it's release, which was 2003. Back then nobody cared for it, and the game slipped under everyone's radar.

I remember just buying Phantom Brave because it was made by Nippon Ichi, the same guys who made Disgaea. Since I didn't have a credit card and I couldn't import back then, I actually paid full price for a game that was like one which I really wanted. I was desperate.

But Phantom Brave was a pretty good game as well. Aside from the "you will vanish in x turns" thing, fuck that. The story was subtle though. I liked the characters and art, which prompted me to buy La Pucelle.

I think all Nippon Ichi games are either fan purchased, or extreme cult classics. Mind you, the japanese sRPG genre isn't that huge. In fact, I'll dare you to find another sRPG made in the last year by a company who isn't Nippon Ichi.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by RABicle

Those look like the three worst games I've ever seen Southjag.

He listed four, and it's ludicrous to think Zone of the Enders 2 is a bad game.



Sengoku Basara 2.

Take Dynasty Warriors 3 + 5, add 8000 soldiers per map, japanese characters that possess different elemental attributes based on ancient japanese stories, and play. This game's a lot like Bujingai, Dynasty Warriors and Otogi all in a sense. Bordering Dynasty Warriors more though.

The original title was released in america as Devil Kings, which was just a senseless "smash everything you see" game that had absolutely no story whatsoever. Basara 2 seems to have quite a large story and it's easily playable even if you don't know japanese. The characters and their different attacks are unique, such is the combo chaining system which can reach 500+ providing you've got skill (some characters have low range, for example.)

I'm really enjoying playing this game. And for the special price I got it for, I can't complain. The story might be a little farfetched for some (even if you don't know japanese, it just appears as "HEHE, I'M AT THE TOP OF THIS MOUNTAIN, FIGHT GUYS THEN COME FIGHT ME") but it's colorful and well presented. Dynasty Warriors' series is neat too, but it gets a little drab after awhile.

This game would immediately fail if it were to come outside of japan. Simply because the director said that if they were to release it outside of their own region, they'd remove the story and indirectly make it a drawn-out fighting game. Much like Bujingai, some things are just better off in japanese.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Dogen

Japanese voice options may be a loss I guess, but is the blue based CD-R really a problem?

My PS2 has trouble reading blue based discs and it makes a significantly louder noise while trying to play them. Aside from that, DVD-R is a better quality, and you can tell graphically.

The PAL version's pretty rare for being a title which was rarely seen released or in stores at all, but it isn't a version which is better. Atlus just reprinted Disgaea in america again, so I'd suggest getting it asap. The prices on ebay are already something to laugh at.

How ya doing, buddy?