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[Wii] Virtual Console & WiiWare Games - Doing wonders for illegal emulation since 2007
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Old Oct 1, 2007, 02:04 PM Local time: Oct 2, 2007, 08:04 AM #26 of 1450
Probably the same line of thinking that is still keeping all but handheld games, region coded.
Except not, because that's done for a reason. Remember the PSP? Remember Lik-Sang?

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Old Oct 4, 2007, 03:31 AM Local time: Oct 4, 2007, 09:31 PM #27 of 1450
But if I remember correctly, the main reason that happened was because some country was short on PSPs and the games aren't region coded, meaning you can play imports regardless of what country the PSP is from. I've never tried myself but I heard Nintendo's handhelds have always been that way. Why not console games? It would be nice to be able to play games that companies don't feel worth releasing here without modding a system or importing another version of a system you already have.
I thought the reason it happened was because Europe didn't get PSPs until late. And importing a PSP was a cheaper method and was killing SCEE's business because of this. PSP and the DS are both region free, yes.

Why not console games? It's pretty much the same reason as all other region encoded reasons. Licensing, classification labels, publishers. Although that won't matter at all if you have a PS3 since their (non-existent) games are region free.

I like how VC games aren't region free though. I mean what the fuck?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Oct 4, 2007, 07:54 PM Local time: Oct 5, 2007, 01:54 PM #28 of 1450
Why is it magically 1000 times slower than normal copy and paste use from a computer? This is just retarded. I wonder how slow it is transferring them from the SD card to the Wii.
YOU CAN SHOOT IN FOUR DIRECTIONS.

Er, anyway yeah. It's probably because the Wii is in the "800 mhz celeron" zone and your computer is way above that.

Virtual Console feels irrelevant now that I have a 4000 roms-in-1 DVD for the Wii. Because well, paying for roms is stupid. And paying for roms of games you already own is just ridiculous unless they're incredible games which you feel deserve your TOEJAM AND EARL 1 respect.

Why buy Streets of Rage 2 on the Wii, when you can buy it on Xbox Live which has multiplayer? I'll still most likely buy VC games still but only if they bring new material in, since Aus/NZ never received TurboGrafx stuff, or Neo Geo stuff. Or stuff like EARTHBOUND. I think all of the PAL VC games are in 50Hz. -_-

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Old Oct 6, 2007, 01:08 AM Local time: Oct 6, 2007, 07:08 PM #29 of 1450
List of Virtual Console games (Europe) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can someone explain what the "PAL conversion issues" are?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 6, 2007, 03:07 AM Local time: Oct 6, 2007, 09:07 PM #30 of 1450
Yeah I might actually buy Sin and Punishment because it isn't a fucked up available download. Er, I mean it's actually a download worth purchasing, since I don't have a N64-to-USB adapter and I heard it doesn't run properly on PCs, and I don't have any other way of playing it and may as well make some use of my classic (unloved) controller. Unfortunately for some other games I'd be interested in, ie Landstalker, however, are fucked up. Which is a shame because it's a really awesome game.

Oh well, back to my 4000-in-1 DVD which has Landstalker in 60Hz.

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Old Dec 18, 2007, 12:03 AM Local time: Dec 18, 2007, 06:03 PM #31 of 1450
I remember getting the original Super Mario Bros. last year. What else was there?
Toejam and Earl.

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Old Dec 24, 2007, 12:15 PM Local time: Dec 25, 2007, 06:15 AM #32 of 1450
Wow, that's... a fucking disappointment in every regard. DKC3 sucks, and is inferior to the previous titles. The other two games I've never heard of, but I expected at least something to stand out for the Christmas release of Virtual Console games. They don't.

I honestly don't have any faith in VC at all and will continue to play my SNES games at perfect emulation on a 1024x monitor without shitty PAL conversion issues. But since Reggie thinks the Wii will last "forever" I'll probably wind up seeing Earthbound released when I'm 28.

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Old Dec 24, 2007, 01:11 PM Local time: Dec 25, 2007, 07:11 AM #33 of 1450
Wow, TERRIBLE, Lix. How can you say it's a disappointment if you've not even heard of or played the other two? Although this attitude is held by most of the people in this damn thread, I'll give you that. "Yeah I have never played anything on the TG-16 before but every week that doesn't contain a Nintendo franchise in the release list sucks mad balls". Makes me sooooooo sadface.
I've never played the other two, but I looked them up on youtube. They don't really look like very popular games or my kind of games. Last year consisted of Super Mario Bros, Toejam and Earl, Castlevania IV and Street Fighter II. Everyone knows those titles. Well, most people. And considering Toejam and Earl is my favourite game of all time, Elixir was pleased. This year? Not so much. Only three titles, and DKC3 is probably going to be the most purchased one.

My fault for getting my hopes up, I guess.

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Old Dec 24, 2007, 02:47 PM Local time: Dec 25, 2007, 08:47 AM 1 #34 of 1450
Again, you fail miserably for declaring this week horrible without ever playing Blades of Steel, Lix. As a general rule, I hate 97% of sports games ever made. Blades of Steel is awesome though, and must be purchased immediately. A hockey game mixed with a fighting game? Pure win.
All right. I just played it. And, like I said before, it isn't my kind of game. It might have some huge sentimental value with a bunch of people, but I missed that, and I don't really like the game. I saw a friend's LP of DKC3 over at SA and it reminded me of how terrible it is in comparison to DKC2. Rolling Thunder 2 I would've played in 1995. Awesome much though.

These 3 releases in comparison to Super Mario Bros, Toejam and Earl, Castlevania IV, etc, suck.

Now I can say that after having played them. Happy?

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Old Jan 1, 2008, 07:01 AM Local time: Jan 2, 2008, 01:01 AM #35 of 1450
I'd probably wait for the download on the VC though... But do I really wanna blow off $45 on the collector's disc?

Maybe...
If you want a version with a bunch of sound glitches, go for it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 02:33 PM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 08:33 AM #36 of 1450
You US fags can have your Bubble Bobble because WE GET HARVEST MOON!
More like we get shitty PAL VC games with conversion issues which consume 98% of the VC library. Chances are this game will be just the same.

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Old Jan 7, 2008, 01:23 AM Local time: Jan 7, 2008, 07:23 PM #37 of 1450
Was this mentioned already? I can't find out if it plugs into the Gamecube port or the Wii controller. If it plugs into the Wii controller, well, that's just awesome. Official SNES controller, wireless, for VC games.

Originally Posted by RABicle
Maybe you should stop being a bitching child Elixir, get away from the ROMS and start paying for quality VC downloads.
Ahahahaha. First of all, the PAL VC games have NTSC/PAL conversion issues which make them far from "quality".

Originally Posted by wikipedia
The "PAL Conversion Issues" column indicates whether the title is known to suffer from currently unaddressed NTSC to PAL conversion problems (see issues regarding PAL Wii systems). Games with "Some" have had the borders reduced, and while the gameplay runs at a slower speed than their NTSC version, the music has been sped up to play correctly. All SNES and all 1st party NES games fit in this category.

List of Virtual Console games (Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Second of all, if I'm going to pay for roms, common sense tells you that you want them in the best possible quality available. PAL VC fails this on a bunch of levels, for 95% of the library it has. Third of all, emulators like ZSNES have been dominating over the original experience for years now. Perfect roms can be found online which aren't riddled with conversion shit, are free, and have fantastic emulators that enhance SNES/etc games on a monitor. Quality which you won't find from a tv with component.

There's a few good PAL VC games like Sin & Punishment but ahahahaha "quality VC downloads"

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jan 7, 2008, 01:35 AM Local time: Jan 7, 2008, 07:35 PM #38 of 1450
Where did you preorder them from? I was waiting for Play-Asia to open theirs, but if there's somewhere else, do tell. I'll just use them instead.

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Old Jan 7, 2008, 04:03 PM Local time: Jan 8, 2008, 10:03 AM #39 of 1450
http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...tml#post537184

Ah damn NCSX is where I preordered mine and their preorders are now closed. Sorry lix.
It's all right. I'll keep an eye on my source and nope they open preorders soon.

I probably would buy Startropics but oh god hello failure US only. I wonder how people will deal with the 747 part of the game.

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