[Album] The Punk Thread! (We're Gonna Gob On Yer Granny)

Sadly, I don't think there are enough people who listen to punk rock to have any sort of serious discussion on these boards. There was a thread like this before the last crash, and it didn't go very far.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Oh, more enthusiasm than I expected. My favorite punk act of all time is The Fall. They've been releasing great records for 30 years without stop, and never sold out. Mark E. Smith is punk rock, as far as I'm concerned.

I have somewhat of a mixed opinion of newer punk music. Most of the stuff that's musically similar isn't anything like the original in terms of philosophy, which I think for punk music especially was more important than the music's aesthetic. Most of the acts that are really the "most punk" in my mind don't sound anything like punk rock of old, but probably have far more in common with the original musicians. I'm thinking of acts like Wolf Eyes or Diamanda Galas or some of John Zorn's more out there stuff here; not only are they creating original music that doesn't sound like anything else out there (something I think was integral to punk rock that is now lost in the oi or glampunk molds), but they're way the fuck more D.I.Y. than pretty much everyone else out there.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by starslight

I am really into early punk-influenced hardcore, though - Minor Threat, Black Flag, Youth of Today, 7 Seconds, Gorilla Biscuits, etc.

I really don't distinguish the early American hardcore bands from the punk scene at all until bands like Social D. (who I honestly have no liking for) and that whole SoCal thing came around. There is some old footage of Social D. touring, and when you see their lead singer trying to write a song after a show with all his caked on eye make up in someone's back yard, you can't help but think, "What a bastard. This is the beginning of all this MCR shit, right here." He left the same tour – taking the money and stranding his band and another band across the country – because he didn't like the living conditions.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by christinajon

Have you seen American Hardcore?

The DVD of this just came out. Really, the film is worth purchasing just for the archival footage. The interviews aren't really anything groundbreaking if you've kept up with the scene.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

As illegitimate as the Sex Pitstols were as a group, I do think that there was a legitimate talent in John Lydon that makes listening to them understandable. You can't deny the genius of a lot of his PiL stuff, and his work with Afrikaa Bambataa was great.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'd say that the first record that really sounded something like punk sounded in it's heyday, ignoring mentalities of the artists and anything like that, is The Monks' Black Monk Time. At the beginning of flower power, it stands as a frothing testament to youthful rage. "Oh, I hate you with a passion, baby."

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Yarbles

If you truly want to get technical about it, the Damned and their debut album (a self titled) was officially the first concious punk rock album. The Damned is one of the few bands that I can still stand to listen to. They're just stripped down rock'n'roll.

Now the Damned is an act that really doesn't get the recognition they deserve. I can't really get into anything they did after the Strawberries record, but those first five albums... some good shit.

FELIPE NO

I was just given a free "business class account" or some such thing on yousendit.com, and with that comes a rather large amount of upload space, so here's that documentary American Hardcore in case anyone's interested.

http://download.yousendit.com/DB5A28446AC06CEB

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?