[SotW] Song of the Week - Qualification: Quiet Voice -conditional duty-

PLEASE ONLY VOTE IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN SONG OF THE WEEK

This is a poll on official policy, so I'd appreciate it if only people who vote and/or nominate vote on this matter. If I don't recognize your name, I won't count your vote with the final tally. Thanks in advance.

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^ Totally just copy-pasted that header, even though this isn't really a policy decision.

Quiet Voice -conditional duty-
nominator: Djinova

This track is by ZTS. In addition to a bunch of doujin video game arrangements like this one, he also has four VGM composition credits:

• DJMAX Portable 2 (2 tracks out of 53: 3.8%)
• Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (4 tracks out of 54: 7.4%)
• Parhelia (8 tracks out of 16: 50%)
• Umineko no Naku Koro ni episode2 - Turn of the golden witch (11 tracks out of 65: 16.9%)

Note that all of these credits are collaborative, and he(?) has never written the complete soundtrack to a game by himself. Good enough to make this original work eligible? Vote y/n/dc now!

See here for brief previous discussion, and populate this thread with further discussion. The poll will close at about the same time or so as Week 122 voting.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by orion_mk3

Ah, thanks for the clarification Unfortunately, that makes me inclined to say "no," since doujin isn't normally eligible. An original track, yeah, but not doujin.

That kind of makes me question the need for a poll in the first place, since it seems like the track should be automatically disqualified.

Originally Posted by Elorin

This is a tough one. As much as I would like to hear the track on SotW, I'd have to go with a no here since the track is a doujin and not an original work or an official arrangement. Unless there is a decision at the policy level to allow doujin in the contest.

This is the relevant rule:

Originally Posted by nominations rules

4. To clarify further, the following are NOT allowed:

• VGM arrangements by amateur/fan arrangers (e.g. music from OCReMix, VGMix, doujins, etc. except when the artist is a VGM composer)

The issue is whether or not his body of work qualifies him as a VGM composer. Other fan arrangements we've had in the past by the rule are virt's Dragon Spirit mix "Wings of Gold" from VGMix, MintJam's Final Fantasy Adventure mix "In Search of the Holy Sword -Seiken Densetsu-" from 3rd GIG #Crescent, and S.S.H's Blast Wind mix "Ultimate Destroyer" from his site.

As a side note, since the change from the one-game-and-you're-a-composer rule, S.S.H's current status as a composer is debatable because he's only composed the soundtracks to two games. We haven't had anything to actually test it, though.

Originally Posted by Elorin

But to be honest, I'm not certain that I can actually articulate the value in differentiating a doujin from an official remix/arrangement. Hypothetical scenario: A DJ arranges a VGM track as an official arrangement and then rearranges the track again but this time as a doujin though retaining the DJ's signature style used even in the official arrangement. Can the doujin really be considered to be that much different from the official arrangement, structure of arrangement aside? (Assume the DJ doesn't encounter an issues with copyrights etc.)

Well, if it's a different arrangement, then it's a different track. Even if the two tracks are exactly the same save for a couple of things, that still counts in my mind as an alternate version because, well, it's not the official version.

Originally Posted by TheKnightOfNee

I'm curious as to just how much work he has done outside of games.

• List of CDs released by his label - These are all either fan arrangement albums or fan arrangement albums with some original pieces on them. Note that, like the games he's worked on, most of these are also collaborative, and on some of them he's only done a few tracks.
• Non-self-published works list - This shows the game compositions I listed in the first post (excluding Parhelia, oddly), fan arrangement albums released by other circles that he's contributed to, official arrangement albums that he's contributed to (some Key albums and Glove On Fight), some albums from anime based on games that he's contributed to (both composition and arrangement), and miscellaneous. Just about all of these credits are only for 1-3 tracks.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I'm personally not feeling as though the credits are enough; each is collaborative and we cannot say for what percentage of each ZTS was responsible.

I didn't calculate the percentages when I made the original list and this thread, but I'll do it now and update the OP.

• DJMAX Portable 2 (2 tracks out of 53: 3.8%)
• Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (4 tracks out of 54: 7.4%)
• Parhelia (8 tracks out of 16: 50%)
• Umineko no Naku Koro ni episode2 - Turn of the golden witch (11 tracks out of 65: 16.9%)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Parhelia and Higurashi have soundtracks, and Umineko and DJMAX have song lists. I'd found these all before, so it took two minutes. :|

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