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The Power of Water
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Cetra
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Old May 25, 2006, 05:15 PM Local time: May 25, 2006, 02:15 PM #1 of 19
Converting H20 to H-OH gas requires more energy to be put in the system than would be output by the system as you are breaking bonds.

Something tells me we aren't getting the whole story with this technology. I'm sure that torch was drawing a heavy amount of electrical energy and I'm willing to bet the gasoline part of his car is used to power the H20 -> H-OH gas conversion process.

This is what sucks about the energy crisis. This is no easy answer to the problem.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old May 26, 2006, 10:54 AM Local time: May 26, 2006, 07:54 AM #2 of 19
Originally Posted by Koneko
Unless my memory's failed me, I think the molecules are arranged differently.
Yes and no. In HOH, as in water, the H ions and OH molecules are held together by ionic forces. HHO gas is essentially plasma made up of H+ ions and OH- ions and held loosely together by dispersion forces. HHO gas is also a bunch of BS because it is written like it is a single molecule, however it's not. It's just hydrogen and hydroxide ions in close proximity to each other.

This guy is basically either creating HHO gas by adding energy and breaking the HOH bond (which requires energy) then reforms the HOH bond though HHO gas which releases energy; or he is using 'pre-made' HHO gas which was already formed somewhere else using plenty of energy. The latter is unlikely since HHO is extremely unstable and wouldn't last long unless it is in a superheated environment. The funny thing far less energy is released when an H-OH bond is created compared to the amount of energy required to break an H-OH bond. And since HHO isn't found naturally like coal is, it requires human generated energy to make HHO fuel.

The result of using HHO gas as an energy source would result in a net energy loss.


HHO makes great torches though as seen. Rather than storing dangerous H and OH gas under pressure in tanks, you can just lug around water as fuel. It also burns quite cool as shown in the video.

How ya doing, buddy?

Last edited by Cetra; May 26, 2006 at 11:02 AM.
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