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Nintendo Press Conference (discussion and live stream)
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Old May 10, 2006, 10:18 AM Local time: May 11, 2006, 02:18 AM #1 of 670
Originally Posted by somedude2387
One last thing. Did anyone in Sydney see Ten news at 5 today because they showed the 'must have' Christmas toy this year, the PS3. It had some guy on there saying that play with joysticks was old school, and motion sensing was all new and awesome. I think that Nintendo will need some pretty leet marketting to combat with this free press that Sony's getting.
Better start saving then. The Australian IT section has the PS3 priced at $892 and $999. HDTV penetration is alreay low, and I can't anticipate that people will suddenly want a cheap Blu Ray player given the lack of movies and questions about what will be the defining new standard. If the Wii comes in priced at less than the core 360, I think we'll see a resurgence for Nintendo.

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:09 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 12:09 AM #2 of 670
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Devilmaycry: What I would like to know is exactly what segment of the market is Nintendo trying to catch, the 'casual gamers' or the 'new gamers', these seems like non existent groups at least in the sense that Nintendo bables.
In fact it's kinda ridiculous, the 'causal gamers' are already gamers (hence the gamers word) so they already know how to use a normal gamepad. So what's the point of the new remote? Anyway who doesn't know how to use a pad after 1 day of trainning? They won't be the experts but it will suffice.
And what about the 'new gamers'? Haven't plenty of 'new gamers' get their consoles with regular pad and learned how to use it just fine? Afterall everyone has a new gamer at some point... not to mention that this group doesn't buy a new game every week. By this logic countless board games would have to be redone because they have too much pieces and rules, same goes for card games, infact god forbid us from playing them, each set has 52 of them!
Broadly speaking, I’d say a ‘new gamer’ is someone who was not involved in the previous console (or handheld) generation. If you think in terms of rough numbers of consoles sold (PS2 100mil, XB 30mil, GC 20mil), I’d consider that anyone outside these 150 million (not accounting for any overlap or replacement units) to be a ‘new gamer.’ To be more specific with regards to exact segments of the market: probably the most striking examples are the Brain Training and Nintendogs games on the DS which were aimed at seniors and women respectively, which prior to the introduction of the system wouldn’t have been classified as ‘gamers’. The ‘casual gamer’ is less easier to define, although it would be unwise to suggest that they all have prior gamepad experience. Games like Freecell, solitaire, minesweeper and bejewelled come to mind, not necessarily confined to console gaming. These are pick up and play: there’s no training isn’t required to point and click and ultimately no barriers to playing. I would suspect the intuitiveness of the Wii controller would provide a similar portal and make them more inclined to pick it up and have a go.

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This whole thing doesn't make any sense, it seems to me that Nintendo is trying to catch some user to add to their fanbase and uses this gimmiekick to attract their curiousity them but they might be shooting themself on the feet.

This feeling gets even stronger when you wear Sony and MS saying that Wii would be people second choice to their own consoles, it seems like they are so absolutely sure (or else they wouldn't even dare to think about saying such thing) that the Wii will fail so miserably that they can freely use it like a pawn, a scapegoat to attack each other without fear of backfire and Nintendo steal thier own marketshare. A glooming sign IHMO.
I suspect most would beg to differ with your interpretation. The much more widely apparent view is that in terms of graphics and game genres, Sony and Microsoft have very little in the way to differentiate between their respective consoles. Hence, the promotion of Nintendo’s innovative new product by both companies as complimentary to their own is seen as a sales tactic to detract sales and attention away from their rival. In addition, it is also seen as an admission that Nintendo’s Wii offers a totally different gaming experience; one that is clearly not possible on either PS3 or X360. After all, if your product was THE comprehensive gaming machine, there’s no logical sense for recommending a rival’s console to compliment it. Obviously, both Sony and Microsoft are going to be fighting it out with each other over the same existing markets. In contrast, Nintendo appears to be growing new markets and demographics.

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Old May 18, 2006, 08:12 AM Local time: May 19, 2006, 12:12 AM #3 of 670
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There's the learning curve of handling a mouse, and isn't smaller (using a mouse on a FPS is wicked but then again I'm not good at FPS no matter what mouse/gamepad I use) but when you play such slow paced games as solitaire it doesn't really matter, so you can say that these people's problem is lack of reflexes
I should’ve made my point clearer. Using a mouse is second nature for simple games because in order to operate a PC, you have to be able to use a mouse. Most FPS I’m aware of require simultaneous use of mouse AND keyboard -this is totally different from using the mouse by itself. I suspect most of us who’d made the switch from playing the original Doom with Ctrl for fire, Alt for strafe and the arrow keys for movement would’ve found the switch to WASD and mouse somewhat daunting at first. As for Solitaire being slow paced… you should see how some people play the timed games or try it yourself.

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Old May 20, 2006, 07:00 AM Local time: May 20, 2006, 11:00 PM #4 of 670
Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey
Oh, the 'Connect' section of Sydney's Daily Telegraph did a pretty good write-up about the Wii. But they've always been pretty fair with all three consoles. Channel 7 news still wins for mainstream E3 coverage though.

"E3 IS THAT TIME OF YEAR WHEN NEW EXCITING COMPUTER VIDEO GAMES APPEAR"
"SONY AND MICROSOFT HAVE NEW GAMING SYSTEMS, SONY SHOCKED EVERYONE WITH ITS INNOVATIVE VIRTUAL REALITY PLAYSTATION 3 CONTROLLER"
"HALO 3 IS SET TO TAKE THE WORLD BY STORM WHEN IT LAUNCHES NEXT MONTH"
"NINTENDO HAS A NEW MARIO GAME"

*Footage of Wii Sports*

"HERE IS A GAME FROM AN AUSTRALIAN DEVELOPER FOR PC"

*Awful unplayable mess on screen for about five minutes*

"AND THAT ABOUT WRAPS UP WHAT'S BEEN GOING DOWN THIS YEAR"
A couple of days back The Advertiser (SA) had a single paragraph mentioning E3 and PS3's motion controller trumping Nintendo's offering (but not going so far as to imply Sony was the one being innovative). However, an article in the online Australian IT section was much more positive, entitled "Wii Wins Hearts at E3".

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