Evanescence - The Open Door

Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

Amy Lee has a beautiful voice.

Someone explain this to me? I know a lot of people think she has a terrific voice - but it has no pitch or range. It's like she had her vocal chords tuned by Phillip Glass.

I'll avoid stating my incredible dislike for the band - but can someone tell me why they think she's a good singer? She's flatter than one of VG's fantasies.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I wouldn't call her singing whiney - the lyrics, yes, but not her intonations. But it's like she keeps the same notes through out - and just raises or lowers how loud she's singing. It's like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaaaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Theres no change, theres no variation, theres no counterpoint.

I've heard bootlegs of her as well and she sounded even worse - though I can't discredit her because in this day and age, you only need to make it in the studio, not live. (Nelly anyone?)

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by electric_eye

Are you saying she only sings one note?

She sings in one key, stretches notes out to where my glassware starts to shake and basically just runs that same idea into the ground over and over and over. For lack of a better word, it's monotone. It's like typing everything in caps lock or listening to nothing but 80s power chords.

It's dull, uninteresting and unentertaining. At least fire alarms have that little squak to get your attention over the buzzing.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Kishin

It's called knowledge. I don't listen to Pink Floyd either, but I know who Roger Waters is and basically what he has done.

You're confusing intelligence with pop culture bullshit.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Sian

The Linkin Park comparisons were purely on the fact that they had someone rapping in "Bring me to Life", and since it was their first single and their biggest people naturally assumed they were mere copyists with a female singer. I think people shut up after they heard the other singles or if they bought "Fallen", because they only had the male vocalist on the one song.

While I didn't hear such comparisons, I wouldn't have been surprised that people misconstrued the band's so-called "sound". (Then again, people don't bother to notice that it said "featuring" in the song credits)

I don't think people shut up though. The usual complaints against the band still hold true.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by VitaPup

i hate when people trash evanescence.

I hate it when people aren't able to make a valid arguement for the side they believe in. Simply saying "I don't like it when people don't like what I like!" is as snide and self-involved as it is back-patting. Get over yourself - some of us like a little talent and challenge with our music.

Originally Posted by VitaPup

I love her voice and the mixture of the orchestral and hard rock instruments.

As opposed to, what, the dozens of other bands who did it decades prior? Perhaps you've never heard of John, Paul, Ringo and George?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I know you've got your strong opinion that is worth alot because you are knowledgeable in the musical arena. But seriously, get off your soap box.

Didn't know you errected a fucking monarchy where we're not allowed to speak our minds, oh ye king of faggotdom. How about you shut you fucking gob instead of pissing down my leg?

Originally Posted by Dayvon

but that doesn't negate the fact that Evanescence is one of the more widely accepted, appreciated, and CD purchased bands in recent history.

Please quantify "accepted" or "appreciated" without using "CD purchases".

Originally Posted by Dayvon

They did win Grammy's for their work, and this proves that there is at least some musical merit to their work thus far no matter how screwed up the Grammys might be.

So wait a second...

You said that the Grammy's are screwed up ... except when you agree with them? What the hell kind of standard is that to hold?

Originally Posted by Dayvon

As to talent and challenge... Evanescence's talent has been in question due to Amy Lee's vocals.

While I can only speak for myself in this - I say they suck for many other reasons. It's just so happens that Amy Lee's vocals is one of the reasons they're awful.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I tend to favor the latter as I find very few pitch issues in their recorded music.

Yet you chide Paris Hilton; which makes me wonder if you have no understanding of standard, what "recorded" music delineates or how to form a simple opinion. If Paris Hilton can make an album that sells, what does that tell you about Amy Lee?

I've never paid to hear either person sing but sure as shit, I'd ask for my money back.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I account these as part of the style but others see it as poor singing. To each their own.

You change your stance more often than square dancers on fast-forward.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I could reference everything from the Beatles to Mozart to back that point up.

You're attempting to compare three completely different things. Thats like trying to say the ape who used a stone tool is as important as the first women behind the wheel of a car or the creation of the 8-Track.

One is obviously far more important than the rest - but not only that - they have nothing to do with each other at all.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I my mind

I don't respect any opinion that is stated as poorly as yours.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

it cannot be measured or built by sheer calculation or logic.

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Originally Posted by Dayvon

I'm sure this won't convince you to like Evanescence, and this post is really not meant to.

So you're yet another person who finds himself so important as to not even bother to dissuade my opinion - but continues to type just to see himself speak?

Originally Posted by Dayvon

What it is meant to do is to hopefully have you become a bit more accepting of other's opinions and the fact that because others opinions differ doesn't make them intellectually inferior to yourself.

You're certainly an exception to that statement. You certainly are inferior to me.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Dayvon

The statement said "get off your soap box" which means quit beating a dead horse, or re-stating multiple times your opinion which has already been stated multiple times in this thread.

I'm absolutely certain you wouldn't say this if my opinion agreed with yours.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

If you are claiming that the three are never equatable, you are the one that doesn't have shit for brains.

"Accepted" and "Appreciated" have nothing to do with "album sales". People accept and appreciate any number of works that do not sell. Not to mention, according to your logic - Ashley Simpson is better than Mozart because she sold millions of albums.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

Many very talented artists and bands have sold extremely well ever since albums have existed and you know it.

I also know that the sky is blue and water is wet. But you can't quantify talent with sales. However, you could certainly question taste with sales.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

I didn't say the Grammy's were screwed up.

Originally Posted by Dayvon

this proves that there is at least some musical merit to their work thus far no matter how screwed up the Grammys might be.

You can't even remember what you said in a previous post. You wortheless sack of shit, you're not even worth my replying to at this point. Do us all a favor, find a Rabbi and have him chop off your prick to keep you from knocking up some poor, unsuspecting girl. I don't need more of your kind in the world; I have a problem with all the ignorance already.

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