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Sian Jul 13, 2006 10:13 AM

Evanescence - The Open Door
 
Well the new Evanescence album will be out on October 3rd with the debut single being aired next month titled "Call Me When You're Sober". After Ben Moody left the band the new album should be less commercial sounding and more experimental. The track list is:

1. Sweet Sacrifice
2. Call Me When You're Sober
3. Weight Of The World
4. Lithium
5. Cloud Nine
6. Snow White Queen
7. Lacrymosa
8. Like You
9. Lose Control
10. The Only One
11. Your Star
12. All That I'm Living For
13. Good Enough

I'm expecting an barrage of "evanescence are shit", which is fair enough if you don't like them, but is anyone else excited for the new album?

Visavi Jul 13, 2006 10:34 AM

I hope they kept the the same poetic angst with their songs. I haven't heard of many bands that have the same feel as Evanescence. There's been a large space of time between the first CD and this one. However, I am afraid that this CD may be even more commercial than the last one since that's the normal trend of music. However, I'm waiting until I hear the single to see whether or not I'll consider buying the album.

Sian Jul 13, 2006 10:39 AM

It's been 3 years since the release of Fallen, the new songs will still have Amy Lee's poetic lyrics since she was the main lyricist on Fallen. Some of the lyrics that have been published are:
- from "Call me when you're sober" - "You never call me when you're sober, you only want it because it's over"
- from "Snow White Queen" -"You belong to me, my Snow White Queen"
- from "Good Enough" - "Am I good enough for you to love me"

The reviews that are coming from previews of the album are positive, it's heavier due to there actually being a full band recording the album and Terry Balsamo's songwriting on board, more dark and epic and it looks like there's a lot more of a piano performance from Amy throughout it all instead of every now and again in songs.

Mucknuggle Jul 13, 2006 11:03 AM

Yay. I loved Fallen. Amy Lee has a beautiful voice. I'm anxiously anticipating the release of this album (more like, waiting for it to be leaked online).

Where are you reading these reviews Sian?

FadedReality Jul 13, 2006 11:05 AM

If it's anything like Origin I'll definitely pick it up. Fallen was decent, but way too much Ben Moody need to make lots of money influence on it. Download a few of the following songs to see what I mean:

Where Will You Go
Lies
Before the Dawn

Sian Jul 13, 2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Yay. I loved Fallen. Amy Lee has a beautiful voice. I'm anxiously anticipating the release of this album (more like, waiting for it to be leaked online).

Where are you reading these reviews Sian?

They're basically from magazines from all over the place, there's a French magazine that's done a full preview explanation of all the songs but obviously I can't read French and the translations are pretty poor.

Here's the translation that's been up, some of it doesn't make sense though

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01- Sweet Sacrifice: In this song Terry seems to hit some intense higher notes on the guitars along with Amy's voice that follows in the same completeness. A heaviest song and less cold than Fallen.

02- Call Me When You're Sober: Along with a short and soulful piano intro, most of Terry's guitar and the rhythm arrangements of John make this song one of the heaviest songs on The Open Door. Some lyrics: you never call me when you're sober/you only want it 'cause it's over.

03- Weight Of The World: It seems that the guitars were dismissed for the intro when Amy's voice emerges in murmurs. This song becomes more and more synthetic while the guitar propels itself in an electro-acoustic accompaniment. A radically different title on Evanescence index.

04- Lithium: An enchanting piano and voice duo in the first minute of the song immediately followed by the bass, the guitars and the drums that enter into the song later. Labeled as the My Immortal of the The Open Door. Amy's voice is filled with emotions and makes the listener feeling a sadness reminded in Origin. The first light part of the album.

05- Cloud Nine: Supposedly based on dark movies with whispered voices and Amy's vocals that haunt you in a very somber atmosphere.

06- Snow White Queen: The intro has rigorous and heavy guitars and the drums seem more and more electronic at the wire of the piece. Some lyrics: you belong to me/my snow white queen.

07- Lacrymosa: The orchestra is composed by 22 people conducted by Dave Campbell, a source of inspiration for Amy and very talented. A cover of Mozart's Requiem.

08- Like You: No chance to translate since the bad quality of the picture that doesn't allow to.

09- Lose Control: The only information that is visible is it has piano and loud guitars.

10- The Only One: The intro is remarkable with the guitars. This song is somehow reminiscent of Missing. There's a mention to Thoughtless, when the seventh riff guitar arrives. It is said to be the third gold piece of The Open Door.

11- Your Star: The piano is the main instrument in this song. It shows a maturity of sound from the band and it is included riffs and dark choir in the backgrounds. The most epic song in The Open Door.

12- All That I'm Living For: The guitars open this song and then enters the piano with a heavy riff. There's somehow a reference with the title of The Open Door in the chorus that easily carve in our memories after a small short of time listening the song.

13- Good Enough: A 5 minute song, the piano and Amy's voice really intimidate, fulled of dark emotions. Some lyrics: am I good enough for you to live/good enough to love me. (...)

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 13, 2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Amy Lee has a beautiful voice.

Someone explain this to me? I know a lot of people think she has a terrific voice - but it has no pitch or range. It's like she had her vocal chords tuned by Phillip Glass.

I'll avoid stating my incredible dislike for the band - but can someone tell me why they think she's a good singer? She's flatter than one of VG's fantasies.

Sian Jul 13, 2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Someone explain this to me? I know a lot of people think she has a terrific voice - but it has no pitch or range. It's like she had her vocal chords tuned by Phillip Glass.

I'll avoid stating my incredible dislike for the band - but can someone tell me why they think she's a good singer? She's flatter than one of VG's fantasies.

Personally I do think she has quite a good vocal range, but I think what people like the most about her voice is because she puts a lot of emotion into her singing. I guess you can either view her voice as beautiful and emotional, or whiney and flat. I think on the Anywhere But Home recording her voice did sound flat, but I have bootlegs where she sounds amazing.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 13, 2006 11:30 AM

I wouldn't call her singing whiney - the lyrics, yes, but not her intonations. But it's like she keeps the same notes through out - and just raises or lowers how loud she's singing. It's like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaaaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Theres no change, theres no variation, theres no counterpoint.

I've heard bootlegs of her as well and she sounded even worse - though I can't discredit her because in this day and age, you only need to make it in the studio, not live. (Nelly anyone?)

Alice Jul 13, 2006 11:53 AM

I think her range is awesome. And her voice sounds like water, it's so clear.

Maybe it's her music you don't like, not her voice.

Sian Jul 13, 2006 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I wouldn't call her singing whiney - the lyrics, yes, but not her intonations. But it's like she keeps the same notes through out - and just raises or lowers how loud she's singing. It's like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaaaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Theres no change, theres no variation, theres no counterpoint.

I've heard bootlegs of her as well and she sounded even worse - though I can't discredit her because in this day and age, you only need to make it in the studio, not live. (Nelly anyone?)

I can see your point, but I agree with Alice that she sounds crystal clear and does have a good range although you may not be able to pick it out. But it would be good to see if she experiments with her voice on the new album if she can pull it off. I find Evanescence bootlegs hard to come by and the quality is usually shite, but her acoustic performances seem to be the best since she's sitting still and not jumping around like she would be on stage.

Does Nelly even play live? I didn't realise that type of music could make it onto a stage...

Put Balls Jul 13, 2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sian
After Ben Moody left the band the new album should be less commercial sounding and more experimental.

The only person in the band that knew anything about music or writing songs left. Must be interesting stuff in the make now! Not that they were that great to begin with.

Or they might dig out some external talent to make songs for them... but that's unlikely.

electric_eye Jul 13, 2006 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I wouldn't call her singing whiney - the lyrics, yes, but not her intonations. But it's like she keeps the same notes through out - and just raises or lowers how loud she's singing. It's like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaaaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Theres no change, theres no variation, theres no counterpoint.

I've heard bootlegs of her as well and she sounded even worse - though I can't discredit her because in this day and age, you only need to make it in the studio, not live. (Nelly anyone?)

Are you talking about her sustaining notes? I guess on an album you can say it leaves room for variation live, but if she doesn't do it for you live I can see where you are coming from. I don't understand when you say she has no pitch or range. Are you saying she only sings one note?

I like to listen to Amy Lee but I have only the Fallen album. I wouldn't say it was mindblowing, she's no Mariah Carey but she can't be THAT bad.

Alice Jul 13, 2006 12:06 PM

Mariah Carey was a lot better before she started singing in falsetto all the time.

Sian Jul 13, 2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kishin
The only person in the band that knew anything about music or writing songs left. Must be interesting stuff in the make now! Not that they were that great to begin with.

Or they might dig out some external talent to make songs for them... but that's unlikely.

You can't actually back that up without hearing the new album, because for all you know it could be stronger than Fallen with Amy and Terry Balsamo as the core songwriters

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 13, 2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_eye
Are you saying she only sings one note?

She sings in one key, stretches notes out to where my glassware starts to shake and basically just runs that same idea into the ground over and over and over. For lack of a better word, it's monotone. It's like typing everything in caps lock or listening to nothing but 80s power chords.

It's dull, uninteresting and unentertaining. At least fire alarms have that little squak to get your attention over the buzzing.

electric_eye Jul 13, 2006 12:14 PM

I didn't like how Ben Moody left. Seriously, was this guy not annoyed by his lack of recognition in comparison to Amy? Whether he had more input or not, he should have foresaw it was going to be more difficult to be more recognised when you look like another guitarist, and that Amy was the singer who played piano and is hardly as ugly as sin.

Mucknuggle Jul 13, 2006 12:15 PM

Sian, you wouldn't happen to have the original French that was translated from would you?

Alice - I dunno. Mariah Carey still sounds spectacular. She only bothers me in the odd track where she sings so high that she sounds like a bell...

Alice Jul 13, 2006 12:16 PM

That's called a "whistle voice," and my sister-in-law (who is a voice coach and has a master's degree in music, so she's pretty reliable) told me that there aren't many people in the entire world who can do it.

So respect the bell!

electric_eye Jul 13, 2006 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
She sings in one key, stretches notes out to where my glassware starts to shake and basically just runs that same idea into the ground over and over and over. For lack of a better word, it's monotone. It's like typing everything in caps lock or listening to nothing but 80s power chords.

It's dull, uninteresting and unentertaining. At least fire alarms have that little squak to get your attention over the buzzing.

Nothing wrong with going high (I heard her delivery live can be off) but I can see what you mean now. It sounds like you have listened to a lot more Evanescence than me anyway, though I can somewhat agree with the lack in variation on Fallen at least.

Put Balls Jul 13, 2006 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sian
You can't actually back that up without hearing the new album, because for all you know it could be stronger than Fallen with Amy and Terry Balsamo as the core songwriters

It could be, but why didn't they write songs before this then, if they could do better than the basist?

electric_eye Jul 13, 2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kishin
It could be, but why didn't they write songs before this then, if they could do better than the basist?

You mean guitarist don't you?

Put Balls Jul 13, 2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_eye
You mean guitarist don't you?

I don't listen enough E to care which.

Yet I still post in this topic, imagine that!

electric_eye Jul 13, 2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kishin
I don't listen enough E to care which.

Yet I still post in this topic, imagine that!

You might not listen to much Evanescence, but you obviously know a few things about the band.

Put Balls Jul 13, 2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_eye
You might not listen to much Evanescence, but you obviously know a few things about the band.

It's called knowledge. I don't listen to Pink Floyd either, but I know who Roger Waters is and basically what he has done.


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