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Zeta Gundam Trilogy
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Rei no Otaku
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 04:38 PM #1 of 24
I'm a giant Gundam fan, and Zeta is my favorite out of all the series. I have to say though that the movies were a huge disappointment. I would not recommend them instead of watching the series. Too much stuff was cut to squeeze 50 episodes into 3 movies. Though the worst travesty is the ending to movie 3.
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Kamille doesn't get brain fried by Scirocco, and instead we get a dumbass happy ending. Completely unacceptable in my opinion. If you want a happy ending you shouldn't be watching a UC Gundam series in the first place


You have a couple mistakes there in your post^_^
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Quattro Bajina : Also known as the Red Comet , Char Aznable and a few other names such as Zion Daikum and Casval Mass. He's one of the strongest Newtypes close to his One Year War Rival, Amuro Ray. As he disguises himself as Quattro Bajina, he helps both Aeug and the Earth Federation to fix up the Titans.
Zeon Daikun was his father. Char's real name is Casval Daikun. The Mass part I'm guessing you got from his sister, Artesia Daikun who went by the name Sayla Mass for a long time. Also Char is actually not a powerful Newtype at all. He's an excellent pilot, but most of that comes from his own skill. He is a NT, but compared to the likes of Amuro, Kamille, Haman and Scirocco he's not much of a NT.
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Zeta Gundam - piloted by Camille Bidan.
Actually that picture you have there isn't the Zeta Gundam. That's RX-178 Gundam Mk. II. That's what Kamille pilots for the first half of the series. In episode 21 he switches to the Zeta. Same with the last picture there. That's the Mk. II.

Finally most of the animation is old. Only some of the scenes were redone. So I wouldn't bother watching the movies instead if for some reason you didn't like the old animation (which is stupid since it looks fine).

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:06 PM #2 of 24
Yes. Sayla makes a very brief appearence, and even has one line. The line is an old one from before her voice actor died.
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And yup, Kamille comes out of the battle with Scirocco unscathed. Him and Fa fly off together. It's ridiculously lame.


ZZ was a huge disappointment. The first half of the show is a complete joke. For example they made Yazan comic relief... One of the most ruthless pilots in Gundam history-.- The second half is quite a bit better since Tomino came back onboard, but it's just too little too late. It'll probably be released on DVD in the US after they finish the Z single DVD release.

The one I'm waiting for is V Gundam. An excellent series, almost as good as Z. Unfortunately Bandai seems to be too wrapped up pleasing the SEED fans. Ugh, I despise SEED. A disgrace to real Gundam.

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Char did apparenly go by "Edward Mass" at some point, I think that's mentioned in the novels.
I still haven't read some of the various novels and manga T.T I never knew about the Edward Mass thing.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:49 PM #3 of 24
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Not that I really disagree, but are you actually saying that you don't find Yazan comical to a certain extent in Zeta? I found him to be amusing because his character was so much larger than life... He was a serious character, sure enough, but I couldn't help being amused by him.
He was amusing in the sense that all psychos are amusing. That's about it. Kind of like Luca Blight from Suikoden 2. Yeah, the part where he made that woman act like a pig, then killed her, was sick but it was also kind of funny. That's how I saw Yazan. They turned him into someone no better than the little kids. Just there to elicit a laugh. I didn't like that at all. Not from the same guy who took out like half the AEUG pilots by himself, and even fought Kamille on equal footing at one point.

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I can't agree that it was too little, too late. I'd rather see ZZ redone with some changes, but it moves the story forward. It also has one of my favourite Gundam designs. I love the Double Zeta Gundam, in it's various forms.
I'd like to see it redone too. Scrap the entire first half, and remake it. I'm sorry, but I don't watch Gundam for comic mischief like Judau stealing the Zeta every episode and Bright having chickens dance on his head. As for the ZZ itself, it was a neat design but it was far too bulky for me. Nu Gundam will always be my favorite.
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isn't that a sequel or sidestory of f91?
It's the contiuation of F91. F91 was supposed to be a complete series, but it got squeezed down into a movie, and is pretty much unfinished.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:54 PM #4 of 24
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Anyone play Mobile Suit Gundam vs Zeta Gundam for PS2? Best Gundam game ever.
Hell yeah. It is a great game, as was Federation vs. Zeon.
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You know, I find that fans of the original Gundam are usually the main haters of SEED. I personally love the old school Gundam stuff. Z is my fav, and I must say, SEED is downright garbage. I couldn't bear to sit through it...
That's because we know what good Gundam should be like.

It just annoys me because everytime you want to talk to someone about Gundam they always talk about Wing or SEED. Two of the worst shows ever. UC fans are hard to find outside of Gundam specific places T.T

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 10:45 PM #5 of 24
Manny's movie spoiler:

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Actually she survives shorter. That whole battle at Kilamanjaro where she's killed by Jerid never happens. She dies when Kamille is escaping Earth to get back into space. Sucks, I know.


I was speaking idiomatically.
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