[Multiplatform] 3 New Square-Enix games

Originally Posted by Miles

That's only one new Square Enix game. One is a spinofff sequel to a Final Fantasy game (can't square stop doin this already) and a rerelease of a game that just came out like 9 months ago with 2 new bosses and more scenes with Cloud in them.

And another is Heroes of Mana.

Plus, who deleted my awesome post saying how shitty the name "Hindman" is? I guess I'll just have to say it again. That is one shitty name.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Doesn't any smart business try to make as much money from one idea or product as possible? I thought that was the whole point of business...? If their strategy is flawed, then they won't make money--some other company will start to bring in more cash. But as it stands, Square Enix is the top Japanese RPG producer/publisher around. So people can point fingers and cry "milking!" all they want, but in the end, they're also geniuses.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

So its suddenly too much to ask for a game developing company to create more diverse original games then constant milking?

If people feel the same way you do, then the company will get the message in their paychecks and change what they're doing. Again, this is simple business here.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

I mean look at Clover Studios! They gain profit, and yet they're creative and their works have variety.

Right. And they've released 4 Viewtiful Joe titles in the last 2 years.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Konami makes games in different genres or styles, as well as Capcom.

Right. Konami and Capcom have never eeeeevvvver run franchises into the ground or anything. Cause I mean really, that's not Capcom's whole reputation or anything (note: sarcasm).

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

And if it weren't for the secret ending, I doubt any of us will be that excited over FM. Or the possiblity of fighting ALL 13 org members.

You just proved my point. They've apparently changed the product enough to get some people willing to buy it (even if you're not one of them). Their job is to make money, not be heroes in your eyes. While I agree it'd be lovely to see them go over the top and take everything to the next level, you can't cross your arms and get all sour if they don't.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

All I'm saying is that the other companies seem to want profit AND make good original games, Square just seems to wants to milk and churn out the usual stuff just for profit.

Again, they're still making an asston of money on these games. If people feel the same way you do, their sales will dwindle. The message SE keeps getting on the sales charts read: Do it again!

As a side note, just kicking this around, I'd venture to say that since the FFXII spinoff is on DS, they can't exactly copy and paste the same code and get lazy with development, can they? (Hint: the answer is no.) With Final Mix, adding the things being added (CoM similarities, whateverthehell else, I didn't read all of it because I dislike Kingdom Hearts in general and won't buy this), it's not exactly something one can do over the weekend. It IS going to take some measure work to add that stuff in there, logically. Not as much as a full game, probably, but hey, that's not what's being advertized with KH2:FM, now is it?

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Personally, I think if it wasn't for the FF movie, Square wouldn't be so profit hungry.

I'd venture to say the vast majority of businesses--and humans in general--are pretty profit hungry. I know of no job I've had where the boss comes in and says, "Guys, look...I'm just sick of money."

GB said it best, short and sweet:

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

If you guys can show me a company that is concerned with creativity over profit, I'll show you a company that's going out of business next month.

Truth.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Inhert

...now will have to see what they'll do next...

No doubt something that will ROCK you.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by kat

You can only beat one story to death once.

Originally Posted by kat

It's an entirely other thing to milk the Final Fantasy name since there is essentially a new game every iteration but did anyone really care what Vincent was up to after the fact?

You are aware Square's been "milking" Final Fantasy since like 1989 right? They release three SaGa titles here and renamed them "Final Fantasy Legend" simply for marketing reasons. And Final Fantasy Adventure? That was a Seiken Densetsu game, disguised as Final Fantasy. I wish people would quit acting like this is a new development; it's really not.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by kat

Eh, I don't even like Star Wars. Nor bad acting. And I'll one up you and name the Matrix as well.

I didn't say you liked it, just listed it to counteract that part I quoted. and you're right, the Matrix sequels blew also.

Originally Posted by kat

Rest of post, ending with: "But in hindsight, Squaresoft was nothing compared to Square-Enix."

Are you trying to say Square wouldn't have done this without Enix joining the fun? That sounds like what you're trying to say. I sure hope that's not what you're trying to say, because that's surely wrong. I agree they're more sequel happy now than ever, but I'm just clarifying here.

Seems to me like it just took them a while to get really good at business like they have.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?