3 New Square-Enix games
 

Famitsu Scans: here.

PS2:

Kingdom Hearts Final Mix: KH2 with elements of Chain of Memories

NDS:

Its a Wonderful World: From the makers of KH, a RPG based on actual time in Shibuya.

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings: Not too much info, but come on guys... its FFXII on a Nintendo machine! or at least a story about it.

There's that new tri-Ace RPG for 360, too. Eternal Undiscovery or some shit.

Well, I guess if I enjoy FFXII (and I probably will) I'll be buying Revenant Wings. I mean, come on, they're so -cute-! XD

Thanks for the info, Burp! This is the first I've heard of it.

You've had a habit of nitpicking my posts, so it's become a reflex.

Oh, and sole screenshot of said shittily-titled game:

http://www.hyperjump.net/generic/scan01.jpg

That's Obviously a bad scan, still I can't belive Tri-Ace and Mistwalker are making JRPGs for 360 when the 360 sells horrible in Japan. Maybe they think this will help the sales?

They must be content with the money they make. Besides, there are various things that make developing on the 360 desireable (easy to work with, currently the only next-gen console out, etcetera).

Yeah, because the most video games are sold in Japan.

That was sarcasm in case you most likely didn't catch it. Tards.

I hear Bill Gates give them funds if they develop the exclusive game and won't port it to other consoles. In the case of Mistwalker, Sakaguchi was indeed forced to pledge to develop RPGs only for Xbox360 (he can develop other genre for other consoles).


Heroes of Mana pics:1 2

I hear it's a RTS Mana but for me it's a Tactics game by FFTA team...

FFXII (side-story aside) will no doubt bring the rest of the dangling consumers towards the Nintendo. DS owns Japan, this will help it overtake the US, and as for Europe, hopefully the Wii with its DS connectivity will bring the interactive-inclined population to N's knees. After all look what FF7 did for PS.
By end 2007, I predict that Nintendo will be the no.1 games company yet again. It's been 10 years, but old Shiggy has finally brought about the revolution we were waiting (unexpectedly) for.
I'm no fan-boy, Sony still has some big guns, but they're only supporting coming fresh off PS2's success. Give it time and you'll see change...

Yeah that's nice. Now bring out Front Mission 5 in the US you bastards!

Agree fully with Xellos... just give us FM5

Anyway, I did a brief translation of the game "Its a beautiful world" from the scan above.

For "KH2:FM" translation see the KH2 thread.

Localization isn't a given when development starts. They're not entirely banking on North America being its primary target, or else they would've announced it for the US already. So, one can conclude that they were confident enough in Japanese sales when they gave it the go ahead.

That's only one new Square Enix game. One is a spinofff sequel to a Final Fantasy game (can't square stop doin this already) and a rerelease of a game that just came out like 9 months ago with 2 new bosses and more scenes with Cloud in them. Square-Enix, I am not impressed.

And another is Heroes of Mana.

Plus, who deleted my awesome post saying how shitty the name "Hindman" is? I guess I'll just have to say it again. That is one shitty name.

Not that I expected such a fate but it kinds takes a little enjoyment out of the possibility of Vaan dying in FFXII reading the details of the gaiden. Be interesting to see how the visuals look in the end.

What did you expect from a company whose main concern is profit over actual creativity?

I'm still exicted about KH2 FM though, the only link to knowing what's gonna be in store for KH3 is in that damn new secret ending...

Here's the Scan:
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up136952.jpg
http://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=3681up136953.jpg


So, all of a sudden sequels can't be creative, not to mention that this was Director's idea and not the company's.

If you guys can show me a company that is concerned with creativity over profit, I'll show you a company that's going out of business next month.

I can't say that SE really go for profit now, but I can't say that they don't have any creativity...they are yes milking their series now but at least I find them interesting and still have creativity in them (I'm not saying they are the best at it thought)

the compagny for now that go almost only for profit is EA >.>

Doesn't any smart business try to make as much money from one idea or product as possible? I thought that was the whole point of business...? If their strategy is flawed, then they won't make money--some other company will start to bring in more cash. But as it stands, Square Enix is the top Japanese RPG producer/publisher around. So people can point fingers and cry "milking!" all they want, but in the end, they're also geniuses.

Don't you think you're being a little harsh, bitching at a company who is giving you exactly what you want? Admit it, you eat it with a spoon. You're excited over a promised commercial. There's nothing wrong with that, but drop this anti-consumer hate-on you got going. It's as transparent as the paper around my Big Mac.

As for me, here's hoping Heroes of Mana doesn't suck. DON'T LET ME DOWN GUYS

So its suddenly too much to ask for a game developing company to create more diverse original games then constant milking? I mean look at Clover Studios! They gain profit, and yet they're creative and their works have variety. Konami makes games in different genres or styles, as well as Capcom.

And if it weren't for the secret ending, I doubt any of us will be that excited over FM. Or the possiblity of fighting ALL 13 org members. (Not to mention on another note, if they want profit, why not drop the xenphobic attitude and get Final Mix in the USA as well? And while you're at it, market the games better, people actually WANT to SEE the trailers, not just read about them, and the spoilers excuse is lame after that 15 min MGS4 trailer).

All I'm saying is that the other companies seem to want profit AND make good original games, Square just seems to wants to milk and churn out the usual stuff just for profit. If it weren't for Nomura, I don't see how they can keep it up, the majority of their talent is gone(Chrono and Xeno team is gone), including the creator of FF himself. Matsuno made a mess during the development of FF12, and alot of staff left during that time. I'm hoping the next gen titles can improve this, at least each FFXIII title deals with a different story and characters. All I'm asking is a little balance. A little intergrity can't hurt too. (No more putting Gackt in games BS please)

Personally, I think if it wasn't for the FF movie, Square wouldn't be so profit hungry.

Speaking of original titles, I am curious about that DS title its a Wonderful World. Seems a rather unique title, and seeing as I have a DS lite I am interested.

If people feel the same way you do, then the company will get the message in their paychecks and change what they're doing. Again, this is simple business here.
Right. And they've released 4 Viewtiful Joe titles in the last 2 years.
:cow:
Right. Konami and Capcom have never eeeeevvvver run franchises into the ground or anything. Cause I mean really, that's not Capcom's whole reputation or anything (note: sarcasm).

You just proved my point. They've apparently changed the product enough to get some people willing to buy it (even if you're not one of them). Their job is to make money, not be heroes in your eyes. While I agree it'd be lovely to see them go over the top and take everything to the next level, you can't cross your arms and get all sour if they don't.

Again, they're still making an asston of money on these games. If people feel the same way you do, their sales will dwindle. The message SE keeps getting on the sales charts read: Do it again!

As a side note, just kicking this around, I'd venture to say that since the FFXII spinoff is on DS, they can't exactly copy and paste the same code and get lazy with development, can they? (Hint: the answer is no.) With Final Mix, adding the things being added (CoM similarities, whateverthehell else, I didn't read all of it because I dislike Kingdom Hearts in general and won't buy this), it's not exactly something one can do over the weekend. It IS going to take some measure work to add that stuff in there, logically. Not as much as a full game, probably, but hey, that's not what's being advertized with KH2:FM, now is it?

I'd venture to say the vast majority of businesses--and humans in general--are pretty profit hungry. I know of no job I've had where the boss comes in and says, "Guys, look...I'm just sick of money."

GB said it best, short and sweet:
Truth.

The problem with the constant spinoffs is those of us who don't care about the original product aren't going to pay the spinoffs any kind of attention and believe the time would be better spend coming up with something else...ANYTHING else. People who didn't play Madden back in 97 or 98 probably aren't playing Madden 06 nowadays (or that stupid NFL Coaches game that came out this year). I didn't really get Metal Gear Solid when it first came out, so all of the constant sequel hype and re-releasing and remakes of the various games serves as a minor annoyance than anything.

Maybe this is an older way of thinking, but I'd rather just see the game come out and the company move on. Not "Okay, we're bringing out FFXII and no less than 3 more games based off it!" I'm actually surprised none of the titles discussed in this thread were FFVII spin-offs.

That said, new Tri-Ace stuff and Heroes of Mana both sound pretty interesting.

Nobody can deny a company pursue profit rather than creativity, but I guess there are two ways to pursue profit: To sell better stuff, or to sell stuff in a better way. Apparently SE does the latter very well, but I don't think SE does the former well.

However, we still can't condemn SE as going the wrong way till eveybody gets disgusted with them and no longer buys their production because of the poor quality. And we won't have that day. SE is going to be forever the most watched company, though not the most entertaining company.

I can't point out the evils of spin-offs clearly. As long as they keep their production enjoyable, I personally don't mind if it's a spin-off or not. The reality is, many people say FFX-2 and DoC as shitty and crappy, though.