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Old Jul 13, 2006, 10:13 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 03:13 PM #1 of 106
Evanescence - The Open Door

Well the new Evanescence album will be out on October 3rd with the debut single being aired next month titled "Call Me When You're Sober". After Ben Moody left the band the new album should be less commercial sounding and more experimental. The track list is:

1. Sweet Sacrifice
2. Call Me When You're Sober
3. Weight Of The World
4. Lithium
5. Cloud Nine
6. Snow White Queen
7. Lacrymosa
8. Like You
9. Lose Control
10. The Only One
11. Your Star
12. All That I'm Living For
13. Good Enough

I'm expecting an barrage of "evanescence are shit", which is fair enough if you don't like them, but is anyone else excited for the new album?

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 10:39 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 03:39 PM #2 of 106
It's been 3 years since the release of Fallen, the new songs will still have Amy Lee's poetic lyrics since she was the main lyricist on Fallen. Some of the lyrics that have been published are:
- from "Call me when you're sober" - "You never call me when you're sober, you only want it because it's over"
- from "Snow White Queen" -"You belong to me, my Snow White Queen"
- from "Good Enough" - "Am I good enough for you to love me"

The reviews that are coming from previews of the album are positive, it's heavier due to there actually being a full band recording the album and Terry Balsamo's songwriting on board, more dark and epic and it looks like there's a lot more of a piano performance from Amy throughout it all instead of every now and again in songs.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 11:10 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 04:10 PM #3 of 106
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Yay. I loved Fallen. Amy Lee has a beautiful voice. I'm anxiously anticipating the release of this album (more like, waiting for it to be leaked online).

Where are you reading these reviews Sian?
They're basically from magazines from all over the place, there's a French magazine that's done a full preview explanation of all the songs but obviously I can't read French and the translations are pretty poor.

Here's the translation that's been up, some of it doesn't make sense though

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01- Sweet Sacrifice: In this song Terry seems to hit some intense higher notes on the guitars along with Amy's voice that follows in the same completeness. A heaviest song and less cold than Fallen.

02- Call Me When You're Sober: Along with a short and soulful piano intro, most of Terry's guitar and the rhythm arrangements of John make this song one of the heaviest songs on The Open Door. Some lyrics: you never call me when you're sober/you only want it 'cause it's over.

03- Weight Of The World: It seems that the guitars were dismissed for the intro when Amy's voice emerges in murmurs. This song becomes more and more synthetic while the guitar propels itself in an electro-acoustic accompaniment. A radically different title on Evanescence index.

04- Lithium: An enchanting piano and voice duo in the first minute of the song immediately followed by the bass, the guitars and the drums that enter into the song later. Labeled as the My Immortal of the The Open Door. Amy's voice is filled with emotions and makes the listener feeling a sadness reminded in Origin. The first light part of the album.

05- Cloud Nine: Supposedly based on dark movies with whispered voices and Amy's vocals that haunt you in a very somber atmosphere.

06- Snow White Queen: The intro has rigorous and heavy guitars and the drums seem more and more electronic at the wire of the piece. Some lyrics: you belong to me/my snow white queen.

07- Lacrymosa: The orchestra is composed by 22 people conducted by Dave Campbell, a source of inspiration for Amy and very talented. A cover of Mozart's Requiem.

08- Like You: No chance to translate since the bad quality of the picture that doesn't allow to.

09- Lose Control: The only information that is visible is it has piano and loud guitars.

10- The Only One: The intro is remarkable with the guitars. This song is somehow reminiscent of Missing. There's a mention to Thoughtless, when the seventh riff guitar arrives. It is said to be the third gold piece of The Open Door.

11- Your Star: The piano is the main instrument in this song. It shows a maturity of sound from the band and it is included riffs and dark choir in the backgrounds. The most epic song in The Open Door.

12- All That I'm Living For: The guitars open this song and then enters the piano with a heavy riff. There's somehow a reference with the title of The Open Door in the chorus that easily carve in our memories after a small short of time listening the song.

13- Good Enough: A 5 minute song, the piano and Amy's voice really intimidate, fulled of dark emotions. Some lyrics: am I good enough for you to live/good enough to love me. (...)


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Old Jul 13, 2006, 11:27 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 04:27 PM #4 of 106
Originally Posted by LeHah
Someone explain this to me? I know a lot of people think she has a terrific voice - but it has no pitch or range. It's like she had her vocal chords tuned by Phillip Glass.

I'll avoid stating my incredible dislike for the band - but can someone tell me why they think she's a good singer? She's flatter than one of VG's fantasies.
Personally I do think she has quite a good vocal range, but I think what people like the most about her voice is because she puts a lot of emotion into her singing. I guess you can either view her voice as beautiful and emotional, or whiney and flat. I think on the Anywhere But Home recording her voice did sound flat, but I have bootlegs where she sounds amazing.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 11:55 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 04:55 PM #5 of 106
Originally Posted by LeHah
I wouldn't call her singing whiney - the lyrics, yes, but not her intonations. But it's like she keeps the same notes through out - and just raises or lowers how loud she's singing. It's like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaaaaaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Theres no change, theres no variation, theres no counterpoint.

I've heard bootlegs of her as well and she sounded even worse - though I can't discredit her because in this day and age, you only need to make it in the studio, not live. (Nelly anyone?)
I can see your point, but I agree with Alice that she sounds crystal clear and does have a good range although you may not be able to pick it out. But it would be good to see if she experiments with her voice on the new album if she can pull it off. I find Evanescence bootlegs hard to come by and the quality is usually shite, but her acoustic performances seem to be the best since she's sitting still and not jumping around like she would be on stage.

Does Nelly even play live? I didn't realise that type of music could make it onto a stage...

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 12:07 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 05:07 PM #6 of 106
Originally Posted by Kishin
The only person in the band that knew anything about music or writing songs left. Must be interesting stuff in the make now! Not that they were that great to begin with.

Or they might dig out some external talent to make songs for them... but that's unlikely.
You can't actually back that up without hearing the new album, because for all you know it could be stronger than Fallen with Amy and Terry Balsamo as the core songwriters

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 01:02 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 06:02 PM #7 of 106
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Sian, you wouldn't happen to have the original French that was translated from would you?


Originally Posted by Kishin
It could be, but why didn't they write songs before this then, if they could do better than the basist?
If you're talking about Amy Lee and Terry Balsamo writing together before Fallen it's because they didn't even know each other and Terry was apart of the band Cold before he left to join Evanescence when Ben Moody left.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 01:11 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 06:11 PM #8 of 106
Well Ben Moody was still a core songwriter during Origin, but I bet he wasn't phased with becomming a mainstream rock band at that time before they got the deal with Wind-Up.

Originally Posted by electric_eye
Is that the first album yeah? I have listened to Lies many times and that's my favourite Evanescence song. Unfortunately they do not have that album over here and can only get it online.
No, Fallen is their debut album, Origin is a demo that was spruced up and made to look professional for record companies. They've had 2 EP's before Origin, Evanescence EP and Sound Asleep EP.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 03:08 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 08:08 PM #9 of 106
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Awesome Sian. The text is kind of hard to read, but I can make out most of it. Do you want anything re-translated?
Just a basic sum up of each song would be awesome =D

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FadedReality
Ah. I guess I should have done a bit more research. In any case, the songs on Origin are, for the most part, superior to those on Fallen, IMO.

I've put stars next to my personal favorites

1. "Origin"
2. "Whisper"
3. "Imaginary"
4. "My Immortal"
* 5. "Where Will You Go"
* 6. "Field of Innocence"
* 7. "Even in Death"
8. "Anywhere"
* 9. "Lies"
10. "Away from Me"
11. "Eternal"

There were only 2,500 copies pressed so don't kick yourself if you can't find it. Do, however, download some of the songs from it.
I've had a copy of it for about 3 years, it was Origin's version of Imaginary that made me look into the band more. Even in Death is very much Amy's song on the demo, so expect more like that on The Open Door.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 07:54 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2006, 12:54 AM #10 of 106
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Didn't you already post translations of that? Wasn't there some of them that you wanted clarified? I'm too tired ATM to translate the entire article.
Well probably "Like You" and "Lose Control" are the ones that haven't been clarified so those would be cool.

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Old Jul 14, 2006, 01:00 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2006, 06:00 PM #11 of 106
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Here's the best that I could do with those two. I couldn't make out everything.

Like You - Lethal (?) is omnipresent, the guitar is insidious and the vocals are murmured and sad. Terry does a good job of making it sound like you're disappearing in a dream (not sure about that sentence...). The song is short, slow and rich.

Lose Control - New *something* with a piano base, electric drum, loud guitars and tripled vocals, with everything blended nicely together by Dave Fortman.
Amy - " Dave perfectly understands our music, like if he was in my head. It's good to work with a well known producer, but your group can end up sounding like somebody else if he doesn't understand what you want and feel. Dave always pushed me to write *something* and to surpass myself."
Oooh thanks for that! These song descriptions make me even more excited >_>

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Old Jul 17, 2006, 09:15 AM Local time: Jul 17, 2006, 02:15 PM #12 of 106
Here's a small 30ish second preview of the Mozart cover of "Lacrymosa" taken from "The Open Door".

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Old Jul 19, 2006, 07:02 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2006, 12:02 AM #13 of 106
Originally Posted by Kairi Li
Thanks for the preview Sian! Interesting track I must say.

And I like to add something about Amy Lee's voice. I think the reason we liker her singing cause of her unique color tone and voice, while perhaps some more vocal training will do her good, so far I hardly met many people who can even imitate her voice and the way she projects.

Most people in the end listen to the color tone of the singer's voice in pop music, rather than listening to her training like Opera singers do, cause no one can sing Opera well when they are born, but their voice tone and color tones are born. For example, I take voice training, and my vocal coach says my voice is sweet, so its more suited for songs that young maidens sing in operas, those sweet sounding ones with the high young girl voice rather than the booming Opera larger sounds sung by singers in Carmen. I could TRY to train up for those songs, but my color tone will always prevent me from getting the job of singing those songs, compare to the people who are BORN with that voice and had lots of training.

For Amy Lee, I listen to her unique sound rather than her range in singing, in the end, after all, shes a singer in a band, not some musical actress who has to shift her voice and tone to fit whatever musical she's in. Just like how I listen to Utada and Angela Aki, cause they sound unique from each other. People nowadays get tired of the Britney sounding girls and want something unique, Amy Lee came along and people loved it. And I personally liked the fact she projects better than the quivers most singers have in their voice.

Just my two cents on it.
Yeah, at the time I got into Evanescence I was about 14 and all the shit I was hearing on radio and tv was just so bland and then all of a sudden I hear her voice and it was like "wow...I can actually feel the emotion in her voice". She does have a unique sound to her voice that's very captivating, nicely said

Originally Posted by Signify
Lithium? Is that going to be a Nirvana cover? I hated their last one. . .

Hmm. I probably won't buy this, although I'll probably give it a download. Embarassingly enough, I'm somewhat interested.
Nope it's a "power ballad" of some sort.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 07:18 PM Local time: Jul 25, 2006, 12:18 AM #14 of 106
It's teeny tiny, but here's a small preview of the upcoming single "Call me when you're sober"

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Old Jul 25, 2006, 02:13 PM Local time: Jul 25, 2006, 07:13 PM #15 of 106
Originally Posted by Cadenza
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Old Jul 30, 2006, 04:35 PM Local time: Jul 30, 2006, 09:35 PM #16 of 106
Originally Posted by Syphex
Here's the full version of "Call me when you're sober" It's decent quality and uploaded on youtube, but it's the best I can do =/

Call me when you're sober

A disappointment, IMO. I really don't like it, and the melody gets repetitive. I hope the res tof the album is better.
The rest of the album wont be a repeat of that song, so don't worry. There's going to be songs that have a dark feel to them, and with choirs so you can't go wrong =p.

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 07:11 PM Local time: Aug 4, 2006, 12:11 AM #17 of 106


I'm almost certain that this is the official cover for the album since on the popular fan sites it's been taken down due to some sort of request (probably from wind-up).

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Old Aug 5, 2006, 07:11 PM Local time: Aug 6, 2006, 12:11 AM #18 of 106
I just saw the video...it's ok nothing amazing like some of Marc Webb's other stuff but it's not too bad. I love the dancers though, and "wolfie" as people have been calling him is pretty hawt.

People who don't like Call me when you're sober, don't panic! The whole album isn't going to sound like that one song, lets not be too quick to judge the entire album based on one song.

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Old Aug 6, 2006, 05:26 PM Local time: Aug 6, 2006, 10:26 PM #19 of 106
Originally Posted by Dayvon

For others who question Amy Lee's vocal talent, I have seen them live BEFORE "My Immortal" hit radio, and even before "Bring Me To Life" was big. Amy had one of the most commanding, emotion-ful, and impressive vocal performances in rock bands I've seen. She poured soooo much guts into that show... She is a great singer but has gotten ALOT of rap for some bad TV performances (which most bands suck at BTW because of horrid TV live monitoring). She doesn't have a huge range, but it is enough. Did you ever listen to the song "Hello"? There is enough of a range there to show she's got a decent range. And like I said earlier, control is her key... control and texture. And texture is something that is fairly unique.

Well, needless to say, Evanescence isn't for everyone. So if you don't like them, or just can't stand liking something "popular", then get the hell out.
I remember seeing Evanescence back when no one knew anything about them, she sounded fantastic and really knew how to work an audience. When I saw them again a year later she sounded just as good, and her stage presence was still amazing, despite the crowd being stiff. Which was why I was surprised when I heard Anywhere But Home and thought how poor her voice sounded, but still her stage presence was on peak. I always loved how she looks as if she's putting her heart and soul into every word she sings in a live setting, and that's what makes her an incredible performer.

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Old Aug 6, 2006, 07:05 PM Local time: Aug 7, 2006, 12:05 AM #20 of 106
Originally Posted by Chyna~Girl
If track 7 is Lacrimosa... I would love to hear their version of it. Sweetbox's version was pretty good but I've never actually heard the original. I've always like Evanescence so I'll get the CD. *puts it on her x-mas list*
The original is by Mozart, and Evanescence released a teaser trailer for the album using a 30 second clip of their cover, which you can view here =)

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 04:44 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 09:44 PM #21 of 106
Originally Posted by Visavi
I caught the music video yesterday as I was watching "Evanescence Makes A Video" or something on MTV2 (the only time I've watched anything MTV related in a long time). I'm more of a fan of Nigel Dick's video style, but I decided to give this video a chance. When Amy was talking about a "Little Red Riding Hood/Big Bad Wolf" theme to the video, I became very excited about it...yet, the video wasn't what I was hoping for.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good music video, but I was expecting some shapeshifting or darker theme to the video. The table scene was awesome, and the actor that played the werewolf was very, very hot IMO, but I was expecting something a little more darker and story-like. The part where one of the wolves took a bathroom break during shooting of the video was funny.
I've yet to see the making of, and yeah I know what you mean I was expecting more story to it. I was imagining it'd be like the fairytale, but with a darker more sexier twist. Like the hot wolf guy luring her into a loving relationship then A UBER DARK TWIST. Man I should be a video director

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Old Aug 18, 2006, 08:51 AM Local time: Aug 18, 2006, 01:51 PM #22 of 106
Originally Posted by Chyna~Girl
Heh... I have a feeling it's going to emo extreme compared to Jade's pop version. It's not that bad though <3 I made a MV out of it.
Well it'll be a hell of a lot more dramatic than Jade's version yes =p. The lyrics from the clip I think are "to let you fail it on me"? "I don't wanna hold you back now". But the clip has been taken from random parts of the song so it's just a mash of lyrics methinks.

Originally Posted by cubed
Well it seems that if you preorder the album from iTunes, you get a bonus track as well. The song is call "The Last Song I'm Wasting on You". I wonder if it's the same bonus track the japanese version will get... Anyway, all hail to Limewire, we'll get that iTunes exclusive bonus track anyway.
I tend to just download bonus tracks, I always feel they ruin the flow of the album because they're just stuck on at the end. I always just download bonus tracks and b-sides =p.

Originally Posted by VitaPup
i think the bonus track, if I correctly remember an old article talking about that sond, is about ben moody.

Have any of the other songs leaked yet?
It was an interview with Blender where she was showing the journalist a diary that had notes of the new songs and mentioned something about a song called "The Last Song I'm Wasting On You". She didn't confirm it was about Ben Moody, so it may not be right but it could possibly be about him.

People are saying Lacrymosa leaked and the people who claim to have it aren't sharing it, so I doubt they even have it. It's too early for leaks anyway, expect them next month about 2 weeks prior to the realease.

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Old Aug 19, 2006, 02:26 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2006, 07:26 PM #23 of 106
Originally Posted by Erisu Kimu
Yeah, there's tons of people that hate Evanescence. I myself am not a huge fan of Evanescence, but I still like them. Amy Lee's vocals suit the music nicely and that's all I can say. The lyrics can be deep too. I listened to "Origin" and that's probably my favourite recording by them, although it's not an official "album." "Fallen" was pretty good too. I remember playing it nearly every day back when it was first released, mainly for the song "Going Under." I'll check out their new stuff when it comes out. They haven't really disappointed me. I see a lot of people comparing their sound to Linkin Park, but I don't see the connection. "Bring Me to Life" is probably the only song that comes close.
The Linkin Park comparisons were purely on the fact that they had someone rapping in "Bring me to Life", and since it was their first single and their biggest people naturally assumed they were mere copyists with a female singer. I think people shut up after they heard the other singles or if they bought "Fallen", because they only had the male vocalist on the one song.

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Old Sep 5, 2006, 05:18 PM Local time: Sep 5, 2006, 10:18 PM #24 of 106
I love the album, I got it tonight and it's the most beautifully haunting album i've heard. I'll post up a detailed review when I can think straight =p.

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Old Sep 6, 2006, 07:41 AM Local time: Sep 6, 2006, 12:41 PM #25 of 106
For people who expected Fallen mark 2 are going to be really disappointed. Sure The Open Door doesn't have striking catchy tunes, but personally I really didn't want that. I think their sound has progressed and they've experimented with a new darker atmospheric sound with lots of layered vocals and sound effects. If you don't really appreciate that kinda thing, then the album will sound a bit dull. Me however, I love the new sound. My favourites are probably Call Me When You're Sober, Lithium, Snow White Queen, Like You, The Only One and Good Enough.

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