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RIAA Changing Tactics? no more lawsuits
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 09:52 PM #1 of 29
RIAA Changing Tactics? no more lawsuits

"The good news is that the Recording Industry Association of America will no longer be directly going after pirates.

The bad news is that Internet Service Providers will now be doing the enforcing. "

It looks like the isp's will send you a letter if you've been caught downloading illegal songs, and if it continues they will shut you off. No lawsuits, no courts, none of that, but I think this opens up a ton more people to get the "letter".

I don't know if I like it or not. One in a million being sued or most likely a ton more being banned from teh net.

What do you people think?

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Old Dec 21, 2008, 11:22 PM #2 of 29
I've definitely gotten notices from my ISP in the past regarding illegal downloads (from other who were using my connection, not myself). Nothing new there.

"Hey, stop downloading XXXX. We see you did so illegally." kind of things
did you stop downloading after you got these notices or just ignored em? Maybe now they will actually follow up with their notices.

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 12:41 AM #3 of 29
That, and they will also probably increase the amount of these letters sent out dramatically now that they aren't bothering with those petty lawsuits.

That's what's making me not like it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 02:19 AM #4 of 29
So. Let me understand, here.

The ISPs will shut off your service, subsequently losing your money/business? I mean, if an ISP shut me down, I'd switch. And their competitor gets my business. (I understand how it would be imposed on ALL ISPs but, you know, if I pay my bill and all)

It would behoove them not to be too strict about this. Unless, of course, the penalties imposed would be far more expensive than losing that kind of business. And really, how much would that take on behalf of the RIAA? It'll frustrate the hell out of the ISPs, I'd think.

But maybe I'm not understanding all the details, here. Or not THINKING of them. Not like this shit will stop anyone.

PS: I got the warnings because of Chris's need to download some NHL game
I don't see why the isp's would help the RIAA without some sort of profit/pay. it just wouldn't make sense for them to take the time and people power to ban users from THEIR service just because the shitty RIAA asked them to. It's gotta go deeper down. Unless the RIAA are threatening the ISP's, but I don't know about that...

and some places only offer 1 isp, like where i live for instance. Oh well, Private servers ftw.

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 10:19 PM #5 of 29
It really wouldn't be hard to set a list of trackers that, if, the "accuser" visits he gets his letter. I mean just imagine how much they would get done with simply adding piratebay? And yeah It will definitely scare casual users, which are most of them.

Crash, I pray that you are right. I wouldn't know whether to say fuck it and keep downloading or to slow it down A LOT. I would die without my internet. Like you said the thought of them sending mass letters is much more likely than actually going thru with their threats and shutting everyone down. It's effective and cheap, like having a few fake cameras in your store if you can't afford the real ones. And they don't lose customers.

With that said, how much safer would a private tracker be? I doubt they are going to have a blacklist for undergroundgamer.com, or what.cd. And how would they track limewire? that's always confused me. Bit torrent has a tracker to connect to (and ip's), limewire is just ip's, and I doubt they are going to have an uber geek running around limewire all day taking ip address's.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 10:59 PM #6 of 29
This may be rather naive of me to say, and I may be completely assuming things here (since I just pirate, and don't pay attention to many developments), but for every catch-up step the RIAA makes to go after pirates with "new techniques," the Internet Dwellers have much more brain power, resources, and collective desire to outsmart the RIAA in numbers alone.

Unless they start recruiting from the internet and paying a LOT of people a LOT of money, there's not much they can do.

For every road block the RIAA tries to lay down, there's a new tool to go around the road block made by the pirates and their cohorts. Overwhelming in numbers alone, I figure.
I think what you said makes sense, it's just like pirated releases and the security that discs have. The pirates of the worl always find a way around new protection, even if you have to CALL IT IN. That, is just amazing.

I'm not sure it works exactly the same way as that with online doings, but it probably follows the same concept.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 11:26 PM #7 of 29
I imagine it's all about the collective desire.

Who doesn't want free shit?
this guy

Anyway, I'm sure it's possible for someone (or most likely a group of people) with the right skills to hack almost anything. Like if someone wanted to hack me, evne with windows firewall, zonealarm, nod32, and a hardware firewall they could STILL get passed that shit.

It would be a bitch, but doable.

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