[General Discussion] Suikoden Club v7!

Originally Posted by Enkidu

Don't talk to Deni, I believe he hates III. It's one of the better Suikoden games, imo, with an interesting story, an awesome bonus for getting the 108 stars and nice character designs. The battle system will take some time getting used to though, as will the Trinity System.

The bonus to getting all 108 characters was the only redeeming factor. God awful battle system, terrible characters (I need a talking duck in a helmet like I need a kick in the teeth) and an atrocious story. However, a great soundtrack.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Knighthawk

Sergeant Joe is the best Suikoden character ever. Ok not really. He was helpful though...as a character. Early on he was the hard hitter for Hugo's team. I was disappointed with some of the SoD though...adding those two ducks in duck village was just stupid. Gotta love that there are always at least 10 stars of destiny...that can be used in fighting parties but have pathetically bad stats.

I don't care about their stats or how useful they were, they're just bloody lame. I can't enjoy using a character I think just looks/acts terrible. What fun is it to control someone in a fantasy and they just blow?

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All right, fine. I fucking buckled. I hope you're all happy. I now own Tactics and V and I'll be tearing into them tomorrow. These better be substantially stronger games than III and IV or I'll cut all your balls (or respective lady bits) off.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The character designs in V look exquisite. And I'll take those beavers over a bunch of lousy fucking ducks any day.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Goubot

This is pretty much blasphemy, but whatever.

Suikoden V was pretty great, although it's marred by some technical issues (load times, clunky-ass menus). The recruiting is as obscure as ever, though, probably worse than 1 and 2 in that regard.

The ducks wore Kaiser helmets and waddled. If you can't understand why that is lame, you're a mental fucking defective.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Goubot

Wow, sounds like you're taking this too seriously. I like Sgt. Joe. I think he turned out to be a solid mentor character in spite of his ridiculous appearance. That's all.

Not really. I make a point of not using the term "mental defective" in serious discussions. Also, I could never stay mad at someone with that avatar.

And you did? Really? I found Joe so irritating. Then again, I flat out hated III.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Goubot

Fair enough.

I'm guessing that you really liked the first two and then soured on the series as it went on? Dunno how you'd feel about V if so. It does have technical issues like loading times and a bad menu system, but it also has a much stronger story than the others.

See, my problem with III and IV WAS the story. I just felt they really dropped off in terms of quality.

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Originally Posted by a lurker

There is nothing lame about Kaiser helmuts, dipsuck.

Also, how ELSE is a duck going to walk? He certainly can't trot.

Exactly, inherently lame you fucking lesbian.


Also, I pulled all 108 stars in Suikoden I, II, and III without a guide. Though II took me a second play through.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Well, cronies, I just finished Sukoden Tactics, and I have to say, not overly impressed. The game itself was fun, but the ending was fairly lack-luster. I never enjoy perma-death, and a lot of the sidequests were just boring as hell (Trek through the Obel Ruins a hundred times to get eggs, k?) I hope V is substantially better. I'm off to that, now.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Kaelin

Suikoden V is great. The biggest problem you may encounter is that it takes a good 5-7 hours before the story really starts to pick up. I didn't mind this as it felt like I was just enjoying a chapter of my favorite book in the evenings for an hour or two before I would go to bed. But Game Informer made it out to sound like it was the most boring experience that they were ever forced to play through (one reason why I take magazine reviews with a grain of salt when I know the game is good). Just give it time, and once five's story really kicks in you'll be having a blast

Yea, I'm about 25 hours into the game, and I'm loving it. I just got my castle, and I've run around recruiting people. Though apparently I didn't do well enough in my last battle to get two rather picky generals in Raftfleet. Bastards.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

I recall something about Wilhelm and Mueller refusing to join if you get a lot of your generals killed in battle. I think that's what he's talking about.

Not generals, just if you allow a few troops to die. I never lose generals. And yea, having Viki in your party along with Lyon is a guaranteed sign up.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Well, if you're in need of a strategy, baiting always works. The AI's not smart enough to attack in groups, so you can lure one unit away from the pack and then hit it with its weakness or arrow volleys.

With some careful planning and healing abilities, you can wrap up most battles with less than 100 soldiers killed.

No no, I know that. I just clicked the wrong button and baited three ships instead of the two I wanted in the attack on EVIL DAM CITY PLACE WITH OMINOUS SOUNDING NAME. No biggie.

Goldfish, Mueller just says "I don't care." My issue was that I didn't have Viki in the party.

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Originally Posted by Sexninja

MGS4 is taking all of Konami's money.
I have purchased Suikoden 3 and 4, and can't wait for suikden6.

Havent started playing it, comparitively how is the story of part 3 and 4.

Dude, 3 and 4 are the weak points of the series. SERIOUSLY WEAK POINTS.

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Originally Posted by Leknaat

I actually liked 4 over 3. Even after all me bitching about the sea travel--it was fun when I got the hang of it. And I loved the Rune Cannon battles. They were actually fun. (I haven't played Tactics yet--so NO spoilers for me, 'kay?)

Granted, many of the SoDs seemed to be there just to fill the slots, but I think that can be said for all the games as well. I mean, did we really need Maximillian in both I and II? He was a source of continuity, to be sure, but I don't think he was necessary. And that continuity was carried in III, IV, and V.

Spoiler:

It's one of the worst tactical RPGs I've ever played when it comes to story

Read it Lek.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

No, no. Tactical RPG. Suiko Tactics. It's fucking awful.

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Originally Posted by Dee

My review on SIV Tactics on the previous page is proof. I even fell asleep during it once.

Absolutely horrid, I couldn't agree more.

Also, my decision about whether or not to buy into the next gen hinges largely on the fabled Suikoden VI. If it looks promising, I might pick up a (I imagine it will be here) Sony PS3, and if it looks like shit, I'm walking.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?