The Happening

Originally Posted by avanent

M.Night makes a certain sort of movie. If you like his movies, youll like this movie. If you dont like his movies, you wont like it. It isn't rocket science.

It is effectively like coming out of a fancy restaurant and complaining you didn't like the escargot, despite the fact that you never like escargot.

O jesus, this is rich.

I liked a lot of his movies, and I am not ashamed to admit it. I loved Signs and The Village (much to the dismay of the film gurus)

M. Night is an arrogant ass, and this movie (particularly following the train wreck that was Lady in the Water) was so incredibly laughable, no one can even begin to take him seriously.

Even if there is some kind of dark, B-movie comedy going on intentionally, he even executed that poorly.

I don't understand M. Night fanboys, I really really don't.

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he didnt go so much for the big twist this time. We are led to believe that the happening is caused by a neurotransmitter released by plants, causing disorientation and a lack of self preservation in humans. Its reminds me very much of the effect of Cordyceps on ants, or the effect of a certain type of parasitic flatworm on snails.

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There was no twist. The storyline was transparent the entire time. WOOSH WOOSH WIND TREES O NO. You could get the "twist" in the first 5 minutes of the film.

I think the intended twist was the genre of the movie, no joke.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by avanent

my absolute favorite person. Sass sass sass. You with all your assumptions and stuff.

If you like some of his movies, and dislike some of his movies, then you might like or dislike this one.
if you are a fan of his, then you will probably like this movie.
if you arent a fan of his, then you probably wont.

there are plenty of people out there, who will watch every movie by a director or a writer, and complain how they didnt like any of them; which begs the question... why do you keep watching them.

See, maybe I'm ignorant or something, who knows, but I usually watch movies for entertainment purposes.

Which doesn't mean I lock myself into "SO-AND-SO DID IT, SO IT MUST BE GOOD!" I'm not a fan girl. I don't judge what I will and won't like based on some arrogant prick who thinks his movies are a godsend. I don't pledge allegiance to any one film producer. There is NO director in my opinion who has a PERFECT track record. You have hits, you have misses.

And I think your gross generalizations are pretty much what I am calling into question.

Like I said,, if you possessed any kind of reading comprehension whatsoever, you'd see that M. Night in my opinion has made some fairly decent films which I enjoyed! That doesn't mean I will be a loyal "fan" just because I liked some of his movies. That's blind, that's not enjoyable, and that's fucking stupid.

So it's not that I can't stand anything he does! It's not that I keep watching, expecting a train wreck! I spent $10.25 to see this movie! Do you think I would do that if I KNEW it would be awful? ((In retrospect, I really should have figured this one out. But post-apocalypse shit cause me to temporarily go batty)

I was hopeful, but skeptical. I know that a lot of people absolutely loathed The Village for some nefarious reasons, and I can't trust the opinions of others when it comes to enjoying a film. This is why I gave The Happening dollars. I also gave Lady in the Water dollars. I think this is where the whole "fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me" comes in.

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now, continue with all your assumptions. it is the very height of the reason why i never stay for more than a few posts at a time. Everything has to be aggressive, and an assumption, and a personal attack. Gotta love bigotry, and based on an assumption no less. Fantastic, can it be better?

Yes, we're all bigots because we don't like a shitty movie. How insightful of you.

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f youll notice, i didnt even give my personal opinion of M.Night's latest 'work'. Nor did i give any defense for any opinion either way, except stating the obvious which many movie goers don't seem to get. This doesnt stop you from assuming, does it? Go on, assume away, it does seem what you like to do.

More butthurt, please. I'm not seeing enough from you.

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Btw, I think escargot is terrible. It's flavor reminds me of when I chewed through a ball-point pen by accident.

Yea, that really doesn't justify your stupid analogy which made your bias incredibly clear. Or maybe you just don't understand analogies?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by avanent

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I don't think you know what "taking it personally" means. Maybe you should go back and re-read what you've written, avanent. You will find the definition within!

Additionally, where's my PM, avanent? How come Pang gets one and I don't?

My heart. It is broken.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by avanent

become defensive and uncivilized in communication, is a flag for someone taking things personally. Of course, maybe its just Sass's personality, I was never sure which.

I'm curious. What's your definition of "civilized?"

At no point in time did I become uncivil with you.

See, that's the point. You're a whiny prat. No one likes a whiny prat!

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And now, here we are, talking about stuff that is completely irrelevant.

You only have yourself to blame~

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By the way, I dont get offended by people I dont know and who dont know me. Your opinion of me, in the long run is completely irrelevant. What you think of me does not have an effect on my life, so honestly, I really don't care what you think of me. However, I dont use this as an excuse to conduct myself like an ass. I think communication should be conducted properly and civilly, even if not everyone agrees with me on that. Once again, I see that civil behavior is not upheld at GFF, which is disappointing, as it wasnt always this way.

This is a topic about 'the happening', not your dislike for me.

HAY GUYS, PLEASE STOP PICKING ON ME WHEN I SAY STUPID THINGS.

I love this "GFF used to be so much nicer" card, though. You're a riot, Avanent.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

How about a spot of tea, avanent.

Let us discuss your feelings about how MEAN people are here at GFF for disagreeing with you over tea and crumpets.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by avanent

if you look around the web, theres alot of 'he fucking sucks', 'all of his movies are crap', etc going around followed with statements like 'i want my money back' and 'he should go back to iraq' and 'hollywood shouldn't allow him to make movies'.

I never said that everyone subscribed to this train of thought. But theres alot of it going around.

Theres also a good amount of his fans stating that those people 'just didnt get it' and that the movie was actually amazing.

His fans like his movie, and the people who dont like his movies, continue not to like them. But alot of those dissatisfied, seem authentically surprised and upset, as if it is absolutely confusing how they could dislike his 7th major motion picture, when they disliked all of his previous ones too. Its as if these people are devoid of the pattern-seeking processes in the human brain.

You just keep going. Now, you're arguing with Deni.

I think it's particularly hilarious how you can't seem to read (or are choosing not to?) what I said. I don't dislike all his movies. His last two were particularly shitastic!

What is the problem here?

I'm not a fan, nor do I hate him. I don't run out the instant he makes a movie to judge it! I reserve judgment since I don't know what to expect! You're assuming (yes, you) that I either love him or hate him after I told you multiple times that I do neither.

Hopefully you can start to comprehend my frustration with you when you don't seem to understand things after multiple different explanations in various phrasing.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Turns out it IS a B-Movie, according to Shyamalan.

No wonder. Even then, it still fails as a B-movie in a way.

How ya doing, buddy?

In fairness LeHah, the movie was pretty clearly trying to be a B-movie, albeit not very well. Had you seen it, you'd know what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

And LeHah's point is that you can't set out to make a b-movie. It's not a genre to be tackled. It's something that happens when you set out to make a normal movie.

No, I understand. But it was clear he was trying.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LeHah

Deni understood my ability to use words, hopefully you too will be able to succeed in such a way.

So how many times exactly are you going to spam up the thread? You already said "what Deni said."

Whether or not he was "successful" (he wasn't) or whether or not you can intentionally create a B-movie (you can't), it's clear that he tried. Which is his major flaw when it comes to the "best B movie of all time" argument Shyamalan tried to make.

There's nowhere I can't reach.