Girls, myself, and religion apparently can't mix

Originally Posted by Greykin

Well, try to understand from their point of view. A very common case I find is when a Christian girl or guy starts dating someone outside Christianity and isn't strong enough in faith, slowly but surely, they start to leave, no matter how morally set the other party member is. Doesn't always happen like this, but pretty common.

O man, what a crock of shit.

The same could be said of atheism. I think you're a little biased, aren't you. Must be Christian. "See it from her point of view." WHAT point of view? "I want you to believe what I believe NOW!" ???

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#1. If you're opened minded about it and stuff, try going to church with her and stuff, I'm sure it'll really make her happy to that you're trying. If it doesn't work out for you, then you'll probably have to face break up. Under any circumstances, I'd ask that you don't take her away from her religion if worst comes to worst.

O, who are you kidding. Why should anyone have to "try going to church with her" when she's not necessarily willing to forget about her god in return?

Are you high? There's "open-mindedness" and then there's "doing something to get some pussy."

My advice: Find a girl who shares some beliefs with you, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, whatever. If you can't find that, try someone who is willing to make a nice compromise. Not necessarily an atheist chick, because thats just being an asshole, closing the doors on potentials like that. Maybe a nice Christian girl who doesn't think her religion should run her life. I've known a lot of Christians who believe in whatever and are really, genuinely nice people. And as an added bonus: they don't harp on about crap day and night!

But seriously, I hate this "go to church as a compromise" crap. I hate to promote conflict, but really. Ask her to give you the same favors in return (which are hard to do - thanks Christianity)

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#2. Break up, and stop dating religious girls. Pop the question casually earlier in a new relationship if they're religious.

Yea, no shit.

If religion is an important (or completely UNimportant) thing to you, you should try to consider it in your list of priorities when it comes to dating. I know that I could never date a very religious person - I don't share my foundations in morals with that person, and this will introduce a LOT of conflict in my future with a person.

It seems to be bothering you a bit to date girls who have religion as a priority in their lives - thats fine. There are moderate girls out there, you know.

But it's important to explore each other and your mutual interests and needs before throwing yourself full-throttle into a relationship. If you know the religion thing gets on your nerves as an atheist, try to find someone who you can work with a little better - someone who is a little more willing to compromise.

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Your choice though, you could call this 3 times the charm and see how church might work out for you and her. I'm Christian myself so I'm trying to be as least biased as possible here.

PFFAHAHA, FAIL.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Guardian

One other question that's been riddling me. If a person can dump another because of religious beliefs, how can they morally keep friends who are of different faiths or none at all? You can expect only your partner to hop to God's side of the fence while your best friend can go scot-free? Are there separate rules for platonic and romantic relationship?

I have several very religious friends. I actually get along with all of them (otherwise they wouldn't be my friends lolz), but we try to keep our mutual religions and lack thereof out of our friendships. We appreciate each other for each other - not what we believe in.

Being in a relationship with someone who has a strong opposing religion is more difficult then being friends. Consider you don't sleep with your friends, you don't live with your friends, you don't want to combine your bank account with your friends.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Greykin

I don't understand why you have to be so offended by what I said, or sound offended. Anyways, here's a reply.

Because your advice was widely a bunch of shit, frankly.

"Why not go to church with her when you already know you're not a Christian." Unless you're going to get a blowjob in the alter, this is unecessary and goes beyond "compromise."

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The same could be said for atheism indeed, so why is it still wrong? It happens, so I don't know why you'd call it a "crock of shit".

Atheists in general lack the belief or faith to instill in anyone. We can't really push an agenda, though frankly, there seems to be a division in atheism these days. Some act like it's a religion when it's sincerely not.

Besides. Christians have it built into their religion that they have to peddle their god on the sidewalks, what with the whole evangelism thing. How else would they bulk up in numbers.

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When I said see it from her point of view, I mean how she feels dating someone that it outside her religious circle.

Unecessary. Same advice goes to her as it does Guardian: Look before you leap. If religion is soooo important to you and yours (the general "you," not you personally), what the hell are you doing with an atheist.

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The parents usually worry about their child and they usually know that themselves, so to try to make things for comfortable, they ask them to come to church or whatever to try it out.

Maybe it's just my perspective, but I consider that lying to oneself.

I don't think it's a fair compromise, and thats what I am trying to tell you. A nice, quiet conversation over a dinner table wherein everyone at the table talks about what they believe and finding common ground seems like a compromise - not dragging someone to a temple or a church.

And frankly, the parents can give their input? But if their child is a legal adult, ain't SHIT they can do to change their son or daughter's mind.

Don't let your religion control you.

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The point of going to church wasn't to get in the sack or something like that. It was to see if this was something for him. If he were to go to church to only get closer to her and fake it, then it's not going to work out later anyways.

He already stated he's an atheist. He's obviously given it a little thought. I don't think he needs to go to some organized religion meeting point to discover Jesus or God more. Why bother with the church to explore whats inside of you?

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If you agree with what I have to say, there is no real need to say that.

I didn't agree with everything you said, not to mention you could have cut right to the chase with the statement. Instead, you went on about how he should "compromise" and go to church with her to see if "Christianity was right for him!" Maybe it's me, but I would be offended.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Greykin

Because you love them, so naturally you'd want them to be saved so you can see them in heaven as well.

Naive.

I don't believe in that romantic and movie-esque "I love them, therefore I can't control myself" schtick. Act like an adult, already.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Most Christians I know in real life don't go around preaching to others about how they're so great and I'm so terrible because I don't agree with them. Most tend to go by the guidelines of leading by example and showing how faith in God can help lead to a higher quality life.

Yea, me too. It's called being selective. But then again, I don't live anywhere near a Bible belt, so.

I don't mind "leading by example" and "leading a higher quality of life." So long as everyone is happy and are trying to good for others, the hell do I care what they're motivation is? I imagine we're all trying our best to be good people, no matter the motivation.

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Edit: And what's naive about greykind's comment? If I believed in an afterlife and all of that jazz, I imagine I'd want the person I felt the deepest connection with in this world to be around with me in the next.

Maybe you misunderstood what I meant. The loss of personal control while under the "intoxication of love" is a dangerous thing.

I was speaking idiomatically.