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Batman: Burton vs. Nolan
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Old Mar 11, 2006, 12:29 AM #1 of 53
Batman: Burton vs. Nolan

I know that many people liked Batman Begins, but how many people would actually place it above the Burton films.

I just finished watching Batman Begins again, and it is becoming less and less enjoyable. The essence of Batman was captured very accurately in Nolan's version, but I felt that the editing was very poor. A lot of people seemed to complain about the quick cuts during the fight scenes, but I think that problem was present throughout the entirety of the film. Most scenes felt like they were cut too short, and the film just didn't seem to flow well.

Burton's films were much more comic-like, but I felt that they were better films in general.

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Old Mar 11, 2006, 07:07 PM #2 of 53
I appreciate the fact that Batman was represented in a more realistic and believable context, but I think it is a stupid idea to show Batman as a down-to-earth character. People love saying that they love Batman because he is just a human, but that isn't why Batman is a good character. He's a good character because he is a human that is doing extraordinary things. Nolan's Batman didn't really do anything that could send chills down my spine, but I guess that is because he was just getting started.

Although Nolan spent the entire film trying to hammer in the concept that Batman was human, it was all worthless except for the scene where Scarecrow ignites him on fire and he has to call Alfred for help. He is laying on the roof, just screwed. In this scene, Batman's vulnerability just becomes incredibly apparent, and there's no better way to imply a sense of humanity. Hiking to Mongolia or trying to get revenge for bringing a gun to court was just stupid, in contrast.

I guess that you just gotta have the camp when it comes to people who dress up in costumes.

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Old Mar 12, 2006, 03:15 PM #3 of 53
Christian Bale sucked. All Bale ever brings to a film is a sense of evil and arrogance.

Keaton was a better Bruce Wayne, of course. It was harder to fathom the possibility that he was Batman, both in and out of the film's context. Back when Batman came out, you'd see Keaton as a comic, since he just came out of Beetlejuice. And he always acted like an oddball in the film during public scenes, like the party at Wayne Manor in the beginning. You got the sense that he didn't belong, but you couldn't really picture the guy as Batman since he wasn't particularly dark and moody and attended to business in the real world.

Keaton is such an incredible actor. The scene in Batman Returns where the Bat Signal turns on and his face just lights up, says it all.

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Old Mar 12, 2006, 04:19 PM #4 of 53
Too bad Keaton's "I'm Batman." from the beginning of the first film destroys anything Bale did in Batman Begins.

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