[SotW] Song of the Week - Qualification: Quiet Voice -conditional duty-

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If this were one of his game tracks I'd have 0 problem with it, but this would be like nominating a Mustin remix when he's only done a couple tunes and sound effects here and there. At least a full soundtrack would be where I draw the line.

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It comes down to the purpose of the competition for me, namely highlighting obscure game soundtracks and composers. This nom is, when it comes down to it, a doujin track from a doujin arranger. Using a coincidental smattering of game credits in order to squeeze it in just seems to be missing the point. If you like the composer, nominate his compositions. If you like the source, nominate the source.

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Originally Posted by Djinova

3 or so of his nominations including the latest winner are doujin arrangements done by a doujin group called "Studio A" with their main artists being "A'" and "Namihei" (VGM credits: 6 tracks for Princess Waltz OST, afaik). But they aren't considered "doujin" simply, because these arrangements appeared on an album released by some official producers. Whether a track is under the name of a small doujin release group or included in an official album to fill out space, does it really change the character of the track? Does it sound more official than it sounds doujin?

Hence I totally avoid character discussions when it comes to nominations, because it can get very deep and I feel I might miss something the other person know. I didn't "tried" the backdoor for this nomination, but abided by previous instances shown by CHz (he's missing "Nightrain" by S.S.H, and "A rude performance -spicy Jam mix-" by Mintjam track (by _DH_, I like these tracks so I remembered), and nominated this with confidence of not violating any SoTW rules.

Obviously I think partial credits in 4 albums suffice, which shows he can cooperate for different projects and is not just chance-composer for one game, but that's why the poll is here.

Had I known about the Studio A noms, I would have moved to disqualify them as well. But with respect to MintJam and S.S.H., it isn't even close for me. MintJam has at least 2 full soundtrack credits, Potoneko Academy and Nee Nee Doo Soru. S.S.H did Lost Child and Sixty Nine 2. Even one of their credits probably contains more tracks than ZTS's entire combined discography.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Like I said, 100% is a good place to start. You may joke about achievements and stuff, but the fact is we do have to draw the line somewhere, or else any OCReMixer with 1 official track is eligible. ZTS clocks in at barely a third of a soundtrack on average, even excluding DJMAX and Higurashi.

And again my main issue is that nominating a doujin track from a doujin guy just seems to miss the point. Rude Performance and Nightrain are both original tracks, so you're seeing their skill as composers fully showcased there. Nominating their arrangements was iffy (I made a big hoopla about the FF Adventure track too), but doing the same thing for someone even less established pushes it over for me.

Anyway, I've said my piece. I don't really take this as seriously as it looks like I do (I mean it's not even a real contest...), so sorry if I'm going all nerdfight on you guys.

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade

Would someone be kind enough to change my vote to "Abstain/Don't Care." With all due respect, I thought this was about VGM, not composers. I don't mean to oversimplify or generalize, but this... shit, going on in this topic is kind of striking a nerve with me. The guy has industry credibility, it's suddenly VGM. I mean, that being the case and given we can nominate "original compositions", I have to question the spirit of this event.

Yeah, the existence of those two specific provisions make it pretty clear that this is about composers as well. I guess the difference is whether you interpret the provisions as meaning "hey you all know about this composer but did you know he did this arrangement/original?" or "hey there's this guy who is known primarily for his arrangements but did you also know he does...arrangements?" or "hey this is an arrangement, which is normally ineligible, but wait achievement unlocked 10 tracks composed, sound test activated."

I picked the first interpretation, since if the 2nd or 3rd interpretations are in fact accurate, I didn't see the point in locking out doujin stuff in the first place.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Bigblah

What, is this a popularity contest now?

Well, more like an unpopularity contest. I see the provisions as loopholes to allow obscure work from composers who are otherwise too popular to be eligible, as Drakken just mentioned. If that wasn't the original intent, I'd appreciate some enlightenment as to what it actually was.

But as Crash has pointed out, the vote is pretty clear. Till next time, I suppose.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?