Split:Was Czecholovakia part of the Soviet Union? Or: Semper is still an idiot.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

See the difference there Devo is that Eastern Europe was once "united" by something called communism. This parallel doesn't work for the U.S. and Mexico or the rest of North America because there was no communist bloc around here unifying the nations. Get it?

Oh, and I don't watch much soccer, heh. I live in the U.S. damnit.

Actually, England, France and Spain aren't too shabby at football either. Weren't some of them part of the NATO alliance? Mexico went pretty far in the confederations cup recently. Don't let your shitty reasoning hit you in the ass on the way out.

p.s. Brazil must be united by the South American Alliance.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

I'm not talking about NATO.. I'm talking about the former Soviet Union. Way to go misconstruing what I said and getting cleats in your balls.

Look, AmeriMarineEagle. You obviously don't know much about the sport. How about you quit while you're ahead and stop embarassing yourself? I used NATO because the Czech Republic (or Czechoslovakia) was in the Warsaw Pact, not the Soviet Union. It's called equivalents. How's that for cleats on your balls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_union:
Established by four Soviet Socialist Republics, the USSR grew and from 1956 to 1991 politically contained 15 constituent or union republics — Armenian SSR, Azerbaijan SSR, Byelorussian SSR, Estonian SSR, Georgian SSR, Kazakh SSR, Kirghiz SSR, Latvian SSR, Lithuanian SSR, Moldavian SSR, Russian SFSR, Tajik SSR, Turkmen SSR, Ukrainian SSR, and Uzbek SSR — joined in a strongly centralized federal union. After the USSR's collapse, all 15 SSRs became independent countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_pact
Members
* Soviet Union
* Albania (withdrew its support in 1962 over ideological differences, formally left in 1968)
* Bulgaria
* Czechoslovakia
* East Germany (joined in 1956; left in October 1990)
* Hungary
* Poland
* Romania

You can stop embarassing yourself now.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

edit: And if you're under a country's influence, you're basically their bitch or a smaller reflection of them, thus, in practice, Czechoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

I thought you had incontovertible evidence? Red circle and all? So now it's in "practice"? Hard facts eh?

Edit: You know what, I would really question an academic source that can't even spell right. Also, where do it say, even when occupied, that the country becomes part of the Soviet Union? Well, it does say that it becomes a "suuprter". Whatever that is.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

Actions and actual events are far stronger than some words retelling the facts with a different interpretation.

And if you're going to discredit Think Quest over a spelling error, I laugh at you.

So basically, you're telling me not to discredit Think Quest, but basically say that due to the nature of the invasion, you're right and all the other fact-books are wrong? Woah. I guess you win, then.

p.s. Czechoslovakia wanted to leave the Warsaw pact and reform to a different form of government before the other countries in the Warsaw pact invaded it to make it stay as part of the alliance. Way to twist facts, cowboy.

Seriously, can you stop going any further. First you argue with "incontrovertible facts', now it's in "practice" and "Actions and actual events are far stronger than some words retelling the facts with a different interpretation. " What rubbish is that? Argue anywhere else and they would laugh your ass out the door.

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

I got a source that delves deeper than any factbook because factbooks just give the gist of a country's history in a summary. You can discredit the source all you want over a spelling mistake and the fact that it isn't a factbook, go ahead.

Oh yeah, except that ThinkQuest listed down the facts and you gave your own interpretation of it. Not once did ThinkQuest say that it became part of the Soviet Union.

Quote:

Czechoslovakian leaders stood firm in their reform policies and tried to appease the hard-line Soviet Communists by pledging to maintain the Communist Party

Yeah, that means that they had to stay in the Warsaw pact, right?

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

So what if I lowered my standard of proof, you are the funny guy that totally disowned the Soviet Union from Czech's history. I'm still sticking to my guns because it's hard to deny that the Soviet Union had some design over Czechoslovia.

Which is not what you said in the first place. You said it was part of the Soviet Union, which is not the same as saying that "the Soviet Union had some design over Czechoslovakia. Yes, yes, we all know that the Soviet Union was the driving force behind the Warsaw pact. Yes, yes, we all know that it had major influence over it's allies, but that has nothing to do with what you said. So in the same vein, we can say that the Phillipines are part of the United States of America, since the military was stationed there for a period of time along with the fact that America had some influence over their political decisions.

For posterity's sake, so you can't change your argument now.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

I'm not talking about NATO.. I'm talking about the former Soviet Union. Way to go misconstruing what I said and getting cleats in your balls.

Originally Posted by SemperFidelis

Yeah, you're right about the Warsaw Pact, but it is incontrovertible that Czechoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

This is like the equivalent of a gorilla ripping off your genitals here, buddy. Quit it.

I was speaking idiomatically.