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[PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics - The War of the Lions
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 01:04 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2007, 12:04 PM #1 of 129
I just grabbed this (which was on sale locally for like 15 bucks, not that it mattered though just shocked me), now I need to find my PSP so I can enjoy the game =(

I honestly doubt the slowdown would bother me, I haven't even played FFT in ages so I don't remember how it used to run.

Now if I only remembered how to get Cloud and all those other dudes. Although I guess I will certainly try to have one person master every class at least once for an Onion Knight to be super.

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Old Oct 13, 2007, 05:30 AM Local time: Oct 13, 2007, 04:30 AM #2 of 129
Holy flurkingschnidt where did you buy it for that price?
Some 2-day sale at a local Texas electronic store. I still don't really know why it was on sale (they also had The Orange Box and that Star Wars PSP game on sale too) but I'm not complaining.

One thing I noticed immediately in this game was the removal of pre-skill execution quotes.

Gone are the days of KNOW! LIVE! BECOME A FROG!

Anyway enough about that. I find the Onion Knight class to be completely hilarious. No abilities, can't even equip any abilities from any of the other classes. Starts off looking like a pile of crap (reminds me of FF III DS) but you know will become godly. It gets to wear everything in the game though -- including gender specific equipment. It's interesting to say the least.

I thought about going for the Dark Knight class but the only req that I'm too lazy to wait for is the gathering of 20 crystals on that specific character. That Max HP UP and Move+3 (Female only) really make me strive for the class though.

I'm still squabbling in Chapter 1, I'm really taking my time with this game for some reason. Usually I just rush through all games.

I think this translation is very fitting.

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Old Oct 14, 2007, 12:40 PM Local time: Oct 14, 2007, 11:40 AM #3 of 129
Something interesting about Onion Knights.

They don't earn EXP. Period.

If you want to level up a Onion Knight you need to sacrifice one of those monsters that allows you to gain a level in exchange for it permanently dying. If you aren't anal about the Chronicle showing you have like 99 casualties or what have you no problem with that really.

On the other hand though, Onion Knight has the highest stat growth for all stats once you've mastered all the jobs, as opposed to a Mime which just has excellent growth in everything but Speed and MP.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007, 09:40 PM Local time: Oct 15, 2007, 08:40 PM #4 of 129
Some (probably obvious) observations:

* JP Costs are as they were in the original Japanese Final Fantasy Tactics. This means [Fly] for a Dancer is 5000 JP instead of 1200 JP, and so forth. It really only applies to the final jobs in the whole game or the last round of abilities to learn.

* Also on the original version note, story battles are now as they were in the original game. This means any characters that were supposed to have certain abilities by nature now do. Marquis Messam Elmdore de Limberry now has his innate [Safeguard] (Maintenance) thus making the Genji Gear untouchable.

* For any of the "new" battles that appear, you will really want a Thief with all of the [Steal] abilities. Might want to have that same Thief with [Speechcraft] so you can turn them into chickens. An army of chickens is easier to deal with than an army itself.

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Old Oct 18, 2007, 09:52 PM Local time: Oct 18, 2007, 08:52 PM #5 of 129
The worst sound effect change so far (since only a few were changed, not all of them) is by far Thundara (Bolt 2). Man that sound is just... so horrid. None of the other Thunder spells share that same pitch, it's kind of ear drum shattering if you're using headphones.

Also the slowdown is pretty much summed up like so:

Normal attacks run at 60fps.
Menus and map rotation go at maybe 40~50.
90% of the skills in this game drop to 10~15 fps. Some hover around 30.
Anything that zooms out into the full screen will generally run at 60fps as well.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 19, 2007, 10:49 AM Local time: Oct 19, 2007, 09:49 AM #6 of 129
Apparently the guide for this is hard to grab hold of. Sold out practically everywhere online and seems to be somewhat limited in print runs. Could pull an old FFT guide and go somewhat rarish?

Or maybe it's just an initial rush with few copies, who knows.

Edit: On another note, when the balls will the damn trading arts be available. They STILL AREN'T SHIPPING.
When I contacted BradyGames they said they had publishing issues and it wouldn't be available until the end of November on a mass scale in any case. Some people have already managed to snag a copy.

It sucks of course. A majority of the information is based still on the original PSX information which wouldn't even work on the PSP version. The foundation is true at least though.

Not to mention a lot of their strategies or tips are based on rumours that were proven false via extensive testing and Japan.

Best suited to be just a reference, or a slight push. It doesn't even cover all the things you can do though.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 19, 2007, 02:37 PM Local time: Oct 19, 2007, 01:37 PM #7 of 129
Well yeah the PSP version of the guide is taking the same stuff from their PSX guide and just changing a few things around.

Also I guess maybe it was just because I was stupid enough to have the PSP on max volume when it went off three times hitting 3 people per time (getting raped by random black mages is awesome). Although that rock going into the water was also pretty weird too. It didn't even sound like a splash or a clunk, it was.... weird.

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Old Oct 23, 2007, 08:57 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2007, 07:57 PM #8 of 129
I suppose one problem with the way I played was that I tried to master every class. Damn gold stars. And damn the mysterious way stats are gained. I heard that leveling up while being a ninja was the best if you wanted a physically strong and fast character, but if you did that then you wouldn't be able to master all of the classes.
Each job has a certain growth, and whenever you level your stats are going up based on that job's growth (the base stats, which get adjusted by a job multiplier to determine the final stats whenever you change jobs).

If you use the two or three ways to de-level, you can level down in a bad job (one with a very crappy growth, Bard, Chemist) and then level up in the one you want (PA - Knight, Speed - Ninja, etc etc etc).

It certainly doesn't have any disadvantage of not being able to master all the classes, although if you did level up a ton in a mostly physical class when you switched to a magical one your MA would be shit that's for sure.

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Old Oct 24, 2007, 10:23 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2007, 09:23 PM #9 of 129
Lace, the only issue I can see with the guide (I've only flipped through it quick, found a copy today) was that it listed Move+3 as recommended for a lot of male characters. What other inconsistencies/problems were you talking about?
A statement that Meliadoul's skills (and whatever Orlandeau borrowed from her) will not work on monsters or people without equipment. (This also applies to anyone who has similar skills to Meliadoul). This is in actuality wrong, as they do deal damage to those, and will continue to do damage and hit as long as that target does not have Safeguard.

They also mention being able to steal the Genji Equipment (you can't), and that Eldmore has a Masamune (It's a Muramasa now I believe...) and that his two assassin sidekicks have equipment that isn't there.

A list of damage formulas is nice (although I don't know if any of them are even right, but good to have a general idea nonetheless), and how to get the secret characters.

Also I want more artwork >=|~

I don't feel like pointing out other things they are wrong on, because it's really not going to change the outcome of your game; it just might make you work a bit harder to get things proper.

Although I do question putting Move+3 on any and everything male. It's not the ultimate end all movement ability >>;

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Old Oct 24, 2007, 10:58 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2007, 09:58 PM #10 of 129
I'm pretty sure they changed that just for the PSP version. Divine Knight skills definitely did not work on monsters originally. If they work now though, then maybe she'd actually be worth using. You get her so late in that there are barely any human fights left in the game so she wasn't very useful originally.
Well yeah, considering we're talking about the PSP version it would probably make sense that anything mentioned is related to whatever tweaks or nerfs they did for it.

It would have been nice if they didn't end up printing it as such, but when I asked the author they straight up told me they didn't even bother using Meliadoul at all so they were just going off an assumption that it wasn't changed between the two.

At least they're honest!

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Old Nov 16, 2007, 05:18 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2007, 04:18 PM #11 of 129
I need to invest in Datel or Planex WiFi Adapters so I can get online with this game.

Although first I need to actually beat the game, along with getting everyone in the roster to 80+ so I can have a higher chance of the good multiplayer only items.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 02:20 PM Local time: Nov 19, 2007, 01:20 PM #12 of 129
I did not have enough time to play with someone I found on a totally random chance for as long as I wanted, so we only got to play one round.

I managed to snag a Minerva Bustier.

Minerva Bustier - Clothing
Clothing blessed by a goddess. It provides protection against various elemental magicks.

HP +120 Negates: Fire, Lightning, Wind, Dark
Halves: Ice, Water, Earth, Holy Females Only

This is the only armor that Reis can wear in her default Dragonkin jobclass.

My partner got Onion Gloves, which makes an Onion Knight immune to every status in the game.

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