[Album] The Punk Thread! (We're Gonna Gob On Yer Granny)

I was a little surprised to find the total lack of punk discussion on these boards, and I hope I'm not the only punk on these boards, so lets get something going.

For the record the following are NOT punk and are NOT to be discussed in this thread:-

Christian Punk (i.e. MXPX)
Nazi Punk (i.e. Skrewdriver 1982 - onward)
Pop Punk (i.e. Greenday)
Skate Punk (i.e. Suicidal Tendancies)

and NO punk sub-cultures i.e. indies, emos, goths, grunge etc...

A good test to find out if you're a real punk is to listen to this song and see if you can relate on any level. (Warning, lyrics are NSFW)

Anyway, feel to free to talk about bands you like/dislike, gigs you've gone to/going to, the most punk thing you've ever done, what you wear to gigs, any legends you know, ask 'is it punk or is it not?' etc...

And also, if anyone's in the North of the UK during the end of May make sure you attend Nice & Sleazy, it's gonna be fuckin awesome.

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Originally Posted by Skexis

Nothing says anti-establishment like a good dose of self-satisfaction.

Most Punks I know are pro-establishment, just not this current establishment. The way I see it, anyone who has stepped into Hot Topic without the intent of causing some drunken mayhem isn't punk. Whatever happened to D.I.Y?

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Punk. Of my, I haven't listened to this stuff in ages.

Never really did, to be honest. There was a huge punk fad that went on around the town I live in and my goodness it was ridiculous.

After that I pretty much swore off punk as just that - a ridiculous fad.

Could you elaborate? What genre of punk was the fad about? Or to put it another way, what clothes were they wearing?

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my favorite punk band of all time is The Stiff Little Fingers

While I really like SLF I was pretty pissed when they no-showed at a gig I went to about a month ago.

Anyway, for anyone who has heard of them are Towers of London punk or not? While Donny did spit his beer in my face there were a hell of a lot of 16 year old indie and emo kids at the gig, although most of them got shoved to the back once they actually came out onto the stage.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Dee

I think I'm even more surprised of the lack of rock music discussion on the boards. Namely, not modern rock.

Punk for me has been given a bad rep, mainly from idiots like Green Day, Fall Out Boy, Panic! At the Disco, MCR, and other black eyeliner, skinny pants, Converses, greased hair, Hot Topic, 30 something year olds. The only punk I know of well are the Ramones. If anyone wants to suggest bands of the same era, I am open to it (or "good" modern punk or rock, that is the challenge.)

For classic punk bands listen to Sex Pistols, Clash, Buzzcocks, New York Dolls, pre-nazi Skrewdriver, The Toy Dolls, The MC5 and The Stooges.

As for modern punk bands try Dropkick Murpheys & Cheap Sex. Most of the modern Punk band I know are local so you're probably not going to be able to find their records with ease.

I also depends on which type of punk you're into. I like Oi and Glam Punk but each to their own.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Thought I'd upload what I'm listening to at the moment.

For the record, the BNP is the largest extreme-right party in the U.K.

Now for sleep.

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Originally Posted by starslight

Mike Ness is definitely a sketchy dude, but I'm not sure that any one guy is responsible for inspiring current emo trends. Great bands like the Damned and the Misfits (another favorite punk band of mine, can't believe I forgot them!) did the make-up thing, too, and to a much greater extent.

Don't forget the New York Dolls, they wore more make-up than a 15-year old slag on a night out, but they were are punk as fuck. If anyone is to be blamed for emos it's the person who created the touchy-feely trend when anyone knows the way to sort out your problems is through alcohol and rage.

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Most of the stuff that's musically similar isn't anything like the original in terms of philosophy, which I think for punk music especially was more important than the music's aesthetic.

While this may be true of all the mainstream 'punk' bands, but at at local level there are still a lot of bands that wouldn't have been out of place in the 1970s.

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they creating original music that doesn't sound like anything else out there (something I think was integral to punk rock that is now lost in the oi or glampunk molds),

While this is undoubtably true of proto and post-punk, the majority of the early punk bands used the same 3 chord progressions that had been laid down by blues and the same sing-along quality that pub rock had to it. Blame the MC5 for Kicking out the Jams.

While I love bands like Television to a rather worrying extent, you can't get drunk and pogo to Marquee Moon no matter how hard you try. As horribly cliched as this sounds and I hate myself for saying it, for me punk is about the experience as much as the music. There's nothing I love better (well, very little) than getting wasted and jumping about in front of the stage with my mates while the older punks look on approvingly. Then again, I am a working class lad from a 'Tatty Seaside Town' (bonus points if you get the reference) so I can relate more to lyrics about football, drinking and violence than I can to lyrics about art (sorry for the sterotype).

I do agree that punk is also about content as well as style, with bands like The Libertines and Pulp as punk in my eyes, even if they don't play hard fast and angry.

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No. Their is plenty of punk that came from the states that is far superior to alot of the stuff that came from europe-based punk bands

Maybe there is a lot of punk from the states that is far superior to alot of the stuff that came from europe-based punk bands, but British punk is the best in the world.

Anyone, on a completly unrelated note, the next punk gig I'm going to is on the 24th Feb at a pub called the Yorkshire House. The plan is get to the pub by 2, have a couple of drinks, listen to the bands that start at 3 while still drinking, dance a little, try to chat up some girls and fail due to the fact you're slurring too much for them to understand you and you look pretty crap by this point, talk to the bands after they've done, drink some more, repeat until 2 in the morning. It's gonna be a fuckin GREAT day.

As for gig clothing, I'm gonna gel my hair back until it's like a rock, put on my home scrawled T-shirt and black bomber jacket (possibly with something spelled on the back with safety pins if I can be bothered to go into town), torn jeans held together with safety pins and a pair of leather sneakers (cos I haven't managed to get get hold of a pair of Doc Ms yet). Last time I was in this get up I managed to out punk my mate and he's promised to out punk me this weekend so I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll be wearing. For Nice & Sleazy he'll be dying his hair red while I'm going 1/4 pink, 1/4 blond (natural) and half red. I'm see if I can get any pictures from this weekend.

Anyway what were the last/next gigs you guys went to and what did you wear and do?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Iwata

That was expected, your english and from my encounters, the english think they pioneered every popular genre in Rock music . IMO, Their is only a handful of decent punk bands to come out of Britain.

The Fall, Wire, Swell Maps, Crass, Clash, and the jam.

Then again, i can't tolerate any form of Oi punk and 80% of the punk bands in England are Oi based.

I can see where you're coming from since Oi is my favorite type of punk so for me Britain is easily the punk capital of the world. What's your fav type of punk?

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Originally Posted by Encephalon

I wouldn't go so far as to compare them to Fall Out Boy, but they were definitely more of a caricature than they were an actual anti-establishment entity. The reason why I couldn't ever get into the Pistols was because of their whole musical demeanor. What were they talking about half of the time? They didn't know eachother when they got together and the fact that they fell apart because they never had any true stage chemistry was a testament to that.

It always just seemed to me that they were put together for the sole purpose of selling a false punk image that was built upon the paving of bands like MC5, The New York Dolls, The Stooges and Velvet Underground, to name a few.

Where they were from doesn't matter to me as long as it was good music; but, to me, the Pistols definitely didn't fit this bill. :/

I totally agree, the Pistols were as manufactured as the monkees, but they did get punk to a wider audience than they would have otherwise and influence countless better bands. Taken from Cock Sparrer's wikipedia article.

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In 1976, the band met with Malcolm McLaren, who allegedly toyed with the idea of signing the band alongside to his newest discovery, the Sex Pistols. According to the band, the deal never happened, because Mclaren refused to buy them a round of beers. The second version of this story is, that they refused to cut their hair, as McLaren wanted.

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Fuck this elitism shit. This isn't what punk is about.

I agree, punk isn't about christianity, racism, selling out or skateboarding.

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That is exactly what happened. they were put together by westwood and Mclaren to help sell their stores good. The only good thing to ever come out of that scene was Siouxsie Sioux.

I never really got into Sioxsie, though the Banshees were O.K. You seemed to forget that the Clash also came out of it though.

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let's not forget that such punk bands like the Stooges, Television, Swell maps, and the ramones to name a few started as a band playing punk music 2 to 3 years before the Sex pistols or the clash even formed.

And The Who started playing before them, but Link Wray started playing before them. The problem with identifying when punk started is that you just end up going further back and back. Punk had a variety of influences, from protopunk, blues and pub rock. I suppose if you wanted to be pedantic you could say ? & the Mysterians were the first band to be described as punk but does it really fucking matter where and when it started?

Let's try not to turn this into a pissing contest.

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Originally Posted by RABicle

HAY GUYZ IM LISTENING TO MCR - I'm Not k (I Promise) and enjoying it! Shit shit am i doing this rite?.

Seek help, don't turn to the dark side.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

What sort of punk? Could you describe their clothes/habits please

Edit: Just found this on wikipedia.

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My Chemical Romance and Panic! at the Disco were both bottled at the 2006 Reading Festival, resulting in Brendon Urie being knocked unconscious.

Just when the patriotism in me starts to wane, I read something like this and my faith in my brothers in restored.

Double Edit: It gets better, have a look at this and this.

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Originally Posted by knkwzrd

As illegitimate as the Sex Pitstols were as a group, I do think that there was a legitimate talent in John Lydon that makes listening to them understandable. You can't deny the genius of a lot of his PiL stuff, and his work with Afrikaa Bambataa was great.

I was just talking to my mate the other day about how intelligent Lydon was, iw would have been interesting to see what he would have done if he had formed his own band instead of being shoe-horned into the pistols.

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I've always found the who to be standard blues rock. I think they're very far from the punk spectrum. Link wray really can be connected to punk rock, but only in a small way as power chords only make up a small part of the entire punk spectrum.

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There's nowhere I can't reach.

There's always be rebellious anti-authoritan hell-raisers, however if I absolutly had to pick an album that I felt was the first totally legitimate punk album I would probably pick 'Kick Out The Jams' since in the words of Lester Bangs 'they came on like a bunch of sixteen-year-old punks on a meth power trip'.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, in two hours I'm off to a 9 hour punk gig in a pub, and it cost under a fiver. I'll try to get some of the less embarrassing pics up soon as they've been taken and I've recovered from the drinking.

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Thanks for that Knkzrd, I'm doing a module on documentries at the moment and even though I'm not that big a fan of hardcore, anything that lets me combine buisness and pleasure is good in my book.

P.S Any1 in North of U.K make sure you go to rebellion fest in my own little tatty seaside towm.

I was speaking idiomatically.