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topsy turvy much?
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 12:17 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2006, 11:17 AM #1 of 24
I found basically the same stuff Snowknight did, with one site claiming it was a demonic symbol, and another site (which I found to be much more objective) claiming that's a ridiculous idea propogated by radical fundamentalist Christians. Makes me think of the scary fat lady on... what was it? Trading Spaces or something like that?
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So .... what is this "peace sign" all about, anyway?

Some might call it a "Witches' Foot" or "Nero's Cross" and attribute all kinds of occult significance to it, making the mere display of it a sign of allegiance to satanic powers, black witchcraft and human sacrifice.

The name "Witches' Foot" seems to originate from Koch (Koch, Rudolf: The Book of Signs Dover 1955 and first published in 1930), who also assigned this name to the Pentagram. He also shows an inverted Cross and calls it a "sword..." This is a good introductory book towards graphic symbols, though Mr. Koch seems to indulge in his own interpetations of many of the sigils much too often. Thus, as a reference, it is suspect.

I have yet to find any reliable references for the so-called "Nero's Cross" other than in the more radical fundamentalist Christian literature. These usually allege that the symbol represents an inverted cross like the type that Peter was crucified on by Nero. All representations of such that I have seen show a standard cross (arms at a 90 degree angle to the shaft) turned upside down.

The similarity between the Germanic rune for "r" and the peace symbol has been remarked upon by many polemicists. Given the simplicity of the symbol, I can only attribute this to coincidence. (note that this rune can mean "g," "m," "z," or "r" depending on the time period and the culture, and the Norse "r" can be either as shown or inverted.)

In the "r" form, it is taken by -all- writers about the runes to mean "protection," while in its inverted form it is called "calc," or "chalice."

Nowhere that I have found is it called a "death rune," as alleged by many anti-peace-symbol writers.

Others call it a clever Marxist symbol, or one of those clever plots of the Universal Conspiracy Against Everything.

In the 1960's, some considered it sure evidence that the wearer was a Communist, though the sight of it on the helmets of soldiers in Vietnam probably gave them serious fits.

Well ..... the truth seems to be a bit more prosaic.

It was developed by the British "Committee for Nuclear Disarmament" (CND), apparently about 1958. It is comprised of the two semaphore flag positions for "N" and "D," standing for "nuclear disarmament."

Some say that Bertrand Russell designed the symbol, but that seems to be more of an "urban legend" than anything else.

The symbol caught on, and has become a pretty much universal anti-war symbol, with much more meaning than simply nuclear disarmament.

Also, a link to the semaphore flag positions previously mentioned: http://www.sartori.com/nhc/flags/

It is also worth noting that although many people would associate the Swastika with Nazism, it was actually a religious symbol of Hinduism, Buddhism, et cetera, further evidenced by the fact that the word itself means good fortune or well-being. And no, I didn't get this by watching the Da Vinci Code, I've read it in many books, and if you put stock in what Wikipedia says, you can find it there too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

So, even if this peace sign was put on the graves of some of Hitler's SS troops, I wouldn't be surprised. And I wouldn't say that makes it evil, either.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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