[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

I'm 50 hours in the game and i'm NOT liking the Story,..it kinda sucks. The Battlesystem is a joke,i just throw my controller on the floor and let the puppets do their job..sigh* i miss the turn based system. I hope there is a twist in the story or i'm DEF NOT PAYING for this GAME.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty

Question about Equipment :

Is there any way to know all the specs of an armor or hat before buying it ?
I can only get the Defence and Magic Defence

I'm looking for armors that boost my speed for massive damage on giant crabs

Eeeuhm, when you buy it you can see the stats, either it's red (negative) or pos( blue) on YOUR Stats..it's the same as the previous ffs.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Shenlon

wow 50 hours into the game and not getting into it and still hoping for a story twist. I'd say your just forcing yourself to play now just for the sake of beating another FF game o_0
I can see why you don't like it and I think that this was little too hyped up for its own good imo, but I still enjoy it.
And I never played vagrant story but I noticed the similarities in character design when I first saw it which is probably why it looked so awsome

Meh, the characters look good but there's nothing special about them. Atleast in the other FFs some of the characters had a interesting past,but with these guys it's BORING. And yes i am a FF fan but i expected something more then..well can't say,but jeez it sucks. I'll be glad when this FF is over so i can play Godhand or Shin Megami, cuz the bosses in FFXII are WAAAAAAY TOOOOO EASYYY and UNORIGINAL (boss dragon, green boss dragon, something cheap again and etc etc), Bah i won't do the extra quests, and i'll def be saving my money.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty

it wasnt clear in my post, but the available stats are ONLY def and magic def, you CANNOT see if the item boosts Vitality, Speed, Strenght, etc... or at least i have not found how to, except buying and reloading my save if the item sucks

Hmmm, yeah you're right but really you don't need fancy items to beat the bosses..they suck

And ohyeah I VE BEATEN THE GAME! WOW THE LASTBOSS WAS TOOOO EASY but he looked freaking cool though and his moves were cinematic awesome (but REALLY weak,jeez damage me come on??)

About the Story,i still say this is one of the weakest stories in the ff series...bah the END was RUSHED and it doesn't even come close to Final Fantasy X. I kinda feel a little sad that i even went to the bathroom and didn't pauze the game..YES my puppets were kicking the last boss's ass without me doing anything...but yeah he was weak so he didn't deserve my attention.

Now i'm going to play Godhand and still feel a little bit sad ...and ohyeah now i get the FFXII''s Logo and HE doesn't deserve to be upthere..weakass mofo.

Laterzz

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

I have a feeling you were just overleveled, in which case you could have beaten him by just mashing attack over and over (just like any FF except for VIII which scaled levels to match yours).

Apparently you're supposed to face the final boss at around level 40-50.

I'm 35 hours in and I agree that the story isn't THAT great, but that's simply because there isn't enough of it. I wish there were more events and a longer timespan. There certainly are some incredibly moving and memorable scenes, however, and the dialogue IS worth the price of admission. What Smith has done with this translation is incredible. The story feels like Vagrant Story, in both style and LENGTH (which is it's only downfall).

True,the dialogs are good BUT they are nothing without a decent story. And well FF is known for its stories (that's the point). Doesn't mean i didn't love SOME scenes like the last fight was a la star wars nice. About the leveling i was level 43 and def NOT overleveled...it's just the boss was too easy i'm sorry. but you'll see when you meet

Spoiler:

IT/HIM/SHE/ASHE TURNED EVIL/THE KING's GHOST/ THE TEN KNIGHTS OF SYARBIA/,...

It was a nice try,but i still won't buy this game..it's just not worth it (FOR ME..)

EDITED BY JAZZFLIGHT: Spoiler-tag your stuff, d00d! >_<

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Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Wow, you just let the game play by ITSELF at the LAST BOSS?

Am I the only one who sees severe game design problems in this game?

They say KH2 was easy even in Proud mode, but I still need to do something to actually play it. This game just plays by itself.

I mean aside from production values, what other postive values are there for this game?

Also, I have heard rumours that the NA version had additional scenes that were not in the Japan version, is this true? And if it was, are the scenes added in more Penelo scenes, since alot of her stuff was cut out in the JP copy, including the FMV of her dancing?

Spoiler:

She Dances?? boy did she look hot in the end...waauw,i wish she looked like that during the game (actually she was the best thing in the ending, smexy:biggrin: )

EDITED BY JAZZFLIGHT: SPOIL TAG YOUR POSTS, MAN, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

And I dont know if the Penelo FMV scene ended up in the NA version, hence why I asked it in the previous posts.

Nope, i haven't seen it...anyone know where to get it? I tried searching it on youtube and no luck

Originally Posted by CuteChocobo

Firstly congrate on beating the game~ I am not even that far yet.

However, I have to agree that the final boss was tad easy. I played the JP version 3 times, first time I beat him at normal level range 50-60, next round at the overpowering level 80-95. Last one I set my self a challenges and completed the game in barely 35-41. Out of all, the last one posed a threat the most, especially I limit my self to the number of gambits I can use

Have you try and tackle the Final Clan Mob hunt? The 'H' rank and above!!
In my opinion it would be great if Yazamatto would be the final boss... THEN it would be a challenge

Thx . Hmmmm i am a sucka for hard bosses, maybe after completing some other games :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Kairi Li

The Penelo FMV was only seen in one of the trailers from E3, try finding the 2005 E3 trailer, when Penelo pops up the words "A girl who wants peace" is right next to her dancing with a cloth thats like a veil.

Cool, thx Kairi, i'm gonna look for it ^^

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by rpgcrazied

so.. all you guys that downloaded it, an beat it.. how is it? is it long?

Would you buy the retail version, now that youve seen it all?

How long? Without the Side Quests i would say 40-50 hours at a normal pace.

How did i find it?

Story sucks big time,but i do like the whole Star Wars thing (fan and all).The Voiceacting is INCREDIBLE! The Battlesystem is kinda refreshing BUT i still prefer the turn base system as i want to feel like i'm doing all the work (gambits,etc..). The dungeons are also annoying,i felt like i was playing DIABLO all over again...it didn't feel like Final Fantasy at all.

The thing i do love about this game is the sidequests...boy,there are TONS and i am planning to do em all

Will i PAY for the game? I don't know....but something inside says i will. I always did have respect for Square (Enix) and i even bought FF X-2 for crying out loud. But the two games i was looking forward to all year (Kingdom Hears 2 and FF XII) were SUCH a disappointment...they really fucked up. So the answer is...dunno XD

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Originally Posted by Simo

Some more reviews with Play magazine giving the game a 10/10 score with FFXII being the 4th title in the magazine's history to be awarded a perfect score. Game Informer gave it a 92.5/100: "Where this games shines the brightest is in the new path it blazes, not the traditions it revisits".

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Typical...FFX-2 got 90 scores 2 ,it's just the "name"..but i would give it a 75.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Shenlon

I think the panelo scene with the orcs is on youtube but I didn't know that any scenes were being cut, the dancing scene does look awsome but I dont mind it being cut.

Spoiler:

Panelo isn't all that pretty, in fact, I think she's ugly in my opinion and could be left out of the story and it would really make no difference :/

Spoiler:

I think this is the first time i've played a rpg where the main character is not needed. Vaan had no input in the story whatsoever..ohyeah his brother got killed,bohooo..so what? And Basch having a twin brother was pretty lame 2,they destroyed the possibility of having SOMEONE complicated in your own team..but wait there was one!!! = FRAN who left the forest !!!(that's it?....................sigh*), Panelo equals vaan meaning NOT NEEDED. Who's next? Bah,worst characters in the ff series (yes FFX-2 was even better!).

Really, urgh...i'm glad this game got leaked.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Thats the trouble with a Matsuno story in a FF game that is NOT tactics, tactics is able to have such a story where characters take a backseat cause your characters are like soldies, expendable, especially in terms of character development.

It doesn't work on a normal FF game cause characters as just as important as the plot. You are stuck with those 6 or 7 of them for the entire time, they HAVE to interact somewhat.

True, i hope next time he stays the fuck away from final fantasy, but that won't be a problem since he's OUT.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You got a point.....moogles are cute! About the game i won't repeat myself,read some pages back^^

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The Pre release rumors are right,my friends imported a copy and he received it today..i even saw it. (cool cover, one of the best in the series i have to admit)

I was speaking idiomatically.

Anyone interested in the future of FF series , check this out

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/742/742013p1.html

It's an interview with FFXII's executive producer Akitoshi Kawazu

Some things important like:

For future titles, it really depends on what type of experience the developer wants to have for that game. As such, it's very possible that you might see a return to the turn-based battle system in the future, although that's not to say the ADB system from FF XII won't show up again.

Thank God, next one should be a la turnbase or i'll freak!

But i love his comment about change and he's right...Final Fantasy has always been about change, or it wouldn't be final fantasy^^

"The change in FFVII to 3D graphics, for example - again there were a lot of people in the company who felt that if it's not 2D, then it's not Final Fantasy. Ultimately though, it's this addition of new things and overcoming the challenges to introduce them that, in a way, is a part of the series
itself".

Lots of other things like complaints about the character design etc...

enjoy

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Man the IGN Review is so stupid, the closing comments really pisses me off:

Closing Comments

Final Fantasy XII is a fantastic RPG. It blows all of its PS2 competition this year right out of the water and is among the all time elite role-players ever made for the system. Kingdom Hearts, Devil Summoner, Xenosaga III, Tales of the Abyss... none of them are on the same level as Square Enix's bold and riveting move in a new direction. Whether you're a fan of the genre or not, FF12 most certainly deserves a special spot on your PS2 game shelf... put it in the front.

Pleaaase i have more fun playing Tales of the Abyss which has a kickass story, better character dev., etc etc....it's things like this where i question ign's credibility...aargh tfoe (spits*)

and ohyeah

9.0 Gameplay
The new gambit system, full-camera control, license board upgrades, and enemy AI make for a Final Fantasy like no other. Best of all, it's fun AND challenging.

Fun?...no...challenging? Def Not...spits again*

10 Presentation
Lightning quick load times, one of the best storylines for any genre on any system for the entire year, and a gigantic fully-realized world is yours right out of the box.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!! OMG!

FELIPE NO

Yeah but claiming it's one of the best storylines for any genre on any system for the entire year is going overboard...

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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator

Did you beat FFXII yet? If not, you can't say it isn't.

Hell, have you even played the game yet?

Yes ofc i completed it, way before the official release..

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Punishment

Well if there is one thing I am going to like about FFXII it will be the no random battles. ^_^

Yeah otherwise those dungeons would've been HELL (i mean in a bad way)

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Tell you the honest truth I never liked using summons and that of the sort. I rather do the work and level up my characters instead because you never know what the future may have in store for you in an FF game. For example the end of FFX where you had to kill your summons was a snap for me because I didn't overuse them.

A better example is FFVIII where Ultimecia kills your summons after using it once.In FFX it was lame, you could use them fighting Jecht but when confronting your own summons you had auto revive...it was a letdown but the ending totally blew me off so it didn't matter...^^

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Took the words right out of my mouth, I didn't get into FF11 cause of the battle system, but I know that people who play it long and got tired will hesitate to delete all their hard work and friends they made. FF11 has other values other than its gameplay that people might get jaded with. FF12 lacks those values, and its story isnt so hot either. People call it intelligent cause it deals with with the nation than characters, but how can you care for a foreign world if you don't give a damn of the characters who live there? And why would you care about the characters if they all as interesting as cardboard and don't change or develop?

FF12 is good or bad or great for different people, but its far from being the perfect game of the year magazines keep hyping it as, you know which game truly has a shot of deserving that honour? Okami. Story, originality, art and graphics, and most importantly gamplay are much better and more solid than FF12 ever will be.

There are far worst games out there than FF12, but that doesn't mean FF12 is perfect.

True, if FFXII gets Rpg of the Year then Square Enix might use the same formula again and hey the main character might even look like Ashe ..with guns ..and they will love it! Naaah just kidding, i know i know..maker of vagrant story blablaba....

Anywayz, i've expressed my opinion and i will not buy it, i'll save the money when okami hits Europe..now that is a game worthy of being added in your collection...oops here i go again, laterz

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by gaming

Europeen players can't get this game until February right?

Yup, you can always import or download ^^

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Originally Posted by gaming

Doesn't Europe use PAL system or something?
And US use NTSC or something... Can I like order from a store in the US and still play it here in Europe?
I want to play it now too, especially now that everybody in here are saying so much good stuff about this game

You have to have a modded PS2 or just use Swap Magic (really cheap) ,if you want to go cheaper use an memory card exploit. I know i know, waiting sucks...it's the Euro curse.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

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6. Do you need to buy a license for every single piece of equipment in the game? YES, but later in the game you'll get an equipment which allows you to double the points you earn every battle...i had like tons of points left

7. Are there any early spoilers in the bonus disc? If so, when's a good time to watch it? Dunno

That's it so far. I'd rave more about the opening, but I wouldn't be saying anything that hasn't already been said. When that guy way back said that the story was "so good that the previous FFs should be ashamed of themselves", he wasn't kidding. .....

About the bonus disc, i know nothing.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Cool there's a FF history on it? Gonna look around if there's a torrent,...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by TheXeno

Bah I'm having trouble getting used to the gambit system. I even have all the characters up to this point. I have a couple quick questions though if anyone is interested in answering them. If I'm sticking Fran with a bow and want to her to be a healer/support character through the hole game should I go with light or magic armor?

I gave everyone swords/hammers, +attack...i hardly used any magic,the only magic you really need is cure ,cura etc...and the Heal gambit = peace of cake ^^

FELIPE NO

it seems IGN made an article about FFXII, but you need membership..i"m really curious. The Title is

"Final Fantasy XII: A Deeper Look
Look past the production values and hype and this is what you'll see.
By Craig Beridon"

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