[PS2] Fursona 4

Originally Posted by Cetra

Eehhhhhhhhhhh............

At least it's not for a cell phone.

Or the Wii with faggy controls.

Oh, you.

Doesn't really seem all that interesting to me. If anything, it's sapped enthusiasm for Persona, which in itself depresses me.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I've seen the article they've cited, and it does mention Persona 4. It's not Persona 3: Fes on accident, unless it was Reuters' (or whoever it was) fault.

Originally Posted by Elixir

This doesn't make any sense. >_>

What doesn't? I like the Persona series. The fact that they're not doing anything with this new title except throwing it back onto the PS2 saps my enthusiasm for it. Ordinarily I wouldn't care if I lose enthusiasm for a game, but since it's a game in the Persona series, which I admire, it's a depressing thing.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I knew it was one of those fancy business sites. Can never recall what one.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying enthusiasm is lost when it's on a dying console and will, in all likeliness, look exactly like its predecessor.

☭AWESOME☭

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

You know, you keep saying I'm not buying the game when all I've said is that I'm disappointed. Games can look the same, sure, but it doesn't mean I should be lapping this shit up. Look at Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and its sequel, Radiant Dawn-- there is such a thing as being too similar, and when we had to deal with samey graphics in that one game as it is (the countless, randomly generated floors of Tartarus), I feel like I have the right to be upset with the decision.

By all means, if they want to prove me wrong and show off a game with a drastic departure from Persona 3, I'm okay with that. Really okay.

And the PS2's release list has been waning, there's no doubt about it. You have a few stragglers who don't want to take the plunge into the current generation just yet, but they're hardly bringing over exciting things. The developers have mostly been moving on to the PS3, 360 and Wii.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Jump Festa is primarily an anime and manga convention. Square-Enix is usually the only game company with any significant presence to speak of.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Double-posting to show scans and info.

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The game takes place in the countryside with a new emphasis on the weather (rather than stages of the lunar cycle), where murders begin to happen whenever fog rolls in. The game's theme, subsequently, is mystery suspense. They've promised a lot of plot twists and the like, along with multiple endings (yay!). The game is supposed to be about 1.5 times bigger than Persona 3 and will supposedly boast something like 60 hours. Trailer should be up at some point.

Looks promising, but I want confirmation that the game doesn't cop out and give me the samey-dungeon bullshit. I like the small town feel of the screens so far.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Japan gets it in July.

FELIPE NO

The graphics are less about fanservice and more about Atlus wanting cheaper development costs.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but how did the social aspect of Persona 3 improve the graphical quality?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The reason it's still on the PS2 is because they were going to use the same engine; not the other way around. It would not have been a colossal waste of time to start from scratch on a current console.

As for the gameplay elements, I'd still say it's not much for fanservice. Shin Megami Tensei games always revolve around some sort of cycle-- usually lunar, but weather patterns are certainly not an absurd change.

The art style is probably similar because of Persona 3's overwhelming popularity, yes.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm not necessarily talking about PS3 when I say "current consoles."

In any case, Shoji Meguro is back for the Persona 4 soundtrack, so. It'll likely have the same vibe to it.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Cetra

I think target demographic would be in effect when speaking of any other console.

Yes, that's my thought on it, seeing as genres aren't categorized by consoles like they were in the previous generation.

How ya doing, buddy?

That's not what fanservice means. It's, quite literally, a service to fans. What they're doing here is serving themselves (no, I'm not calling it reprehensible).

Enthusiasm sapped. The game looks and is doing things exactly like Persona 3. Should have just made it Persona (3): Insert Subtitle.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by surasshu

I consider this servicing--very specifically--the fans of Persona 3. Fanservice by its nature is intended to sell whatever it is that is serving the fans (well, unless it's a freebie I guess). This, as opposed to a "bold, creative vision" or whatever, which this isn't (I guess, I didn't watch the video for fear of spoilers). You are free to call it self-service if you prefer, I mean, we're basically agreeing about what this is. Just not using the same word for it, apparently.

Well, cashing in on a franchise is not really fanservice-- that would mean that every Final Fantasy and Mario game is fanservice. Something that's fanservice is more like, say, bringing a popular-but-dead character back to life in a sequel (Leon in Tales of Destiny 2, Zero in Mega Man X2). We both agree on the main point though, which is all that matters. Right now, I'm just trying to explain what sparked the confusion.

Anyway, the trailer is just... underwhelming.

Spoiler:

It looks like they reused the artwork for Igor, which is kinda lazy. The characters are walking those samey-looking halls, and Shadows seem to be the main antagonistic force again. Battles play out the exact same way, with the all-out attack animation being the same too. At the very least, I would've liked to hear more about the weather system.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Seiken Densetsu sucks because of shoddy design; not because they tried to change anything. Shit, look at the more recent games-- they've been doing the best they can to replicate Secret of Mana in look and feel. The only decent Mana game to've come out lately, Heroes of Mana, is an RTS. So, change has no correlation with quality.

Using a new graphics engine is in no way "risking" the franchise nor is it changing the format, unless they decided to take it in a markedly new direction like a kid's game about learning the alphabet (O is for Orpheus!). I never said I'm surprised that they're going to attempt to run the series into the fucking ground. I just said I'm kind of disappointed.

FELIPE NO