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Metal Sphere Dec 18, 2007 05:05 PM

Fursona 4
 
I honestly couldn't believe my eyes, but apparently Persona 4 is headed... for the PS2. Yes, that's no error. Needless to say, I'm eagerly waiting for more info.

Just googling it gets you several links, but basically it popped up on a Bloomberg site during some analysis of Atlus' forecasts and so on.

Persona 4 for PS2

valiant Dec 18, 2007 05:24 PM

Hm for the ps2? I wonder if this has mean that they were developing this a while ago right after Persona 3. Otherwise, I would have assumed they would have put this on a next gen console.

Thank goodness anyway, I was hoping I wouldn't have to succumb to buying a ps3 for this game. Long Live Shin Megami Tensei and Atlus!
(I hope this one does as well as Persona 3 in the states)

Chaotic Dec 18, 2007 05:54 PM

Yay, another new Persona game. :3:

But where the hell is Fes? I want that before P4.

rpgcrazied Dec 18, 2007 06:05 PM

We still dont have a real confirmation, do we? who is Bloomberg? And RPGFan has messed up in news a few times. Would be sweet if true, I dont have any nextgen consoles cept a DS.. :)

valiant Dec 18, 2007 06:14 PM

The most exciting news is the fact that the Megaten team plans to release 10 titles. Oh I could only wonder what some of them are!!

Metal Sphere Dec 18, 2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgcrazied (Post 553779)
We still dont have a real confirmation, do we? who is Bloomberg? And RPGFan has messed up in news a few times. Would be sweet if true, I dont have any nextgen consoles cept a DS.. :)

Please tell me you're joking. Also, I already said that googling gives you several links saying the same/similar thing. It's not just RPGFan.

Lacerta Dec 18, 2007 06:35 PM

Neat?

Quote:

"As for consumer software, the company plans one release in 1H2008, followed by nine in 2H2008, including "Etrian Odyssey" for the DS and "Persona 4" for the PS2"
Atlus does Financial years that end in July. So the "first half" would be Aug 07 to Jan 08. And the "second half" is Feb 08 to July 08.


Of course now the real question is "What does this mean for US/Europe?"

nanaman Dec 18, 2007 06:37 PM

Cool! That means I don't have to buy a PS3 to play it. Cheers Atlus! :beer:

But really, it is very surprising indeed. As always, when you thought that finally, finally the PS2 would be put to rest they announce another game that's in the making for it. Will it ever end? :eagletear:

Forsety Dec 19, 2007 12:28 AM

I hope they've at least been working on it for awhile. This just seems a little rushed to me, and I hope the product doesn't suffer for it.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 19, 2007 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cetra (Post 553772)
Eehhhhhhhhhhh............

At least it's not for a cell phone.

Or the Wii with faggy controls.

Oh, you.

Doesn't really seem all that interesting to me. If anything, it's sapped enthusiasm for Persona, which in itself depresses me.

Elixir Dec 19, 2007 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 554034)
Doesn't really seem all that interesting to me. If anything, it's sapped enthusiasm for Persona, which in itself depresses me.

This doesn't make any sense. >_>

Also, thank god it's on the PS2. But yeah, what of FES? Maybe by Persona 4 they actually meant FES?

What this means is, people don't need to buy a PS3. Now if only they were making Disgaea 3 for the PS2, all reason to own one would be removed. <3 (Upcoming titles that we're waiting on the never-never to be released don't validate a purchase, give me a break.)

Forsety Dec 19, 2007 06:33 AM

rpgland has been wrong before (star ocean 4 comes to mind); I very much figure they are talking about FES since I think it was rumored other places (and listed on some VA resumes) anyway.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 19, 2007 12:13 PM

I've seen the article they've cited, and it does mention Persona 4. It's not Persona 3: Fes on accident, unless it was Reuters' (or whoever it was) fault.

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 554125)
This doesn't make any sense. >_>

What doesn't? I like the Persona series. The fact that they're not doing anything with this new title except throwing it back onto the PS2 saps my enthusiasm for it. Ordinarily I wouldn't care if I lose enthusiasm for a game, but since it's a game in the Persona series, which I admire, it's a depressing thing.

Lacerta Dec 19, 2007 12:21 PM

The source is from Bloomberg Japan, asking about what the hell they have planned since Atlus has suddenly managed to start doing good and not bad in terms of their stock and the consumer gaming division putting out considerable profit (after a long period of loss).

Also RPGCrazied, like it was already explained to you on NeoGAF, Bloomberg is a major financial news firm. Also their source on NeoGAF was directly from Bloomberg Japan, not RPGFan =p

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 19, 2007 12:27 PM

I knew it was one of those fancy business sites. Can never recall what one.

Elixir Dec 19, 2007 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 554234)
What doesn't? I like the Persona series. The fact that they're not doing anything with this new title except throwing it back onto the PS2 saps my enthusiasm for it. Ordinarily I wouldn't care if I lose enthusiasm for a game, but since it's a game in the Persona series, which I admire, it's a depressing thing.

So what you're saying is, you don't want to play it because it's on the same console as the previous game.

★OK★

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 19, 2007 02:04 PM

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying enthusiasm is lost when it's on a dying console and will, in all likeliness, look exactly like its predecessor.

☭AWESOME☭

Elixir Dec 19, 2007 02:13 PM

Kinda like how Crash Bandicoot 2 looks the same as Crash Bandicoot 1, only slightly better? I thought Malmer's "I'm not buying No More Heroes, because the European one is the same as the Japanese one! America gets blood! I don't want censored games!" reasoning for not buying a game was weak, but wow, the game isn't even out yet.

Most sequels do, in fact, look like their previous releases, or at least try to keep the same style so it doesn't end up looking like a completely different game with a few small references here and there.

I think the PS2 is far from dead. I mean, it has thousands of games, and practically everyone owns one. The graphics in Persona 3 are by no means bad, and I'd like to see more of them. The soundtrack was amazing, too.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 19, 2007 02:19 PM

You know, you keep saying I'm not buying the game when all I've said is that I'm disappointed. Games can look the same, sure, but it doesn't mean I should be lapping this shit up. Look at Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and its sequel, Radiant Dawn-- there is such a thing as being too similar, and when we had to deal with samey graphics in that one game as it is (the countless, randomly generated floors of Tartarus), I feel like I have the right to be upset with the decision.

By all means, if they want to prove me wrong and show off a game with a drastic departure from Persona 3, I'm okay with that. Really okay.

And the PS2's release list has been waning, there's no doubt about it. You have a few stragglers who don't want to take the plunge into the current generation just yet, but they're hardly bringing over exciting things. The developers have mostly been moving on to the PS3, 360 and Wii.

Forsety Dec 19, 2007 11:14 PM

I guess I was wrong, but I gotta say I agree with Generic on this. You're promoting laziness from developers by acting like this is 100% okay; but at the same time it isn't like anyone here outright said they wouldn't fucking buy it.

I loved Persona 2 more than pretty much any other PSOne RPG, and Persona 3 was decent enough, but seeing them shit out a new game in less than the span of a year now, on the same dated technology does worry me. Sorry if that's stupid to you or makes me look "elitist" or whatever but it's how I feel, especially given how much I like the series in question.

Grilled Carrots Dec 20, 2007 12:30 AM

Let the big guys make the "current-generation" mainstream... and then the little guys will follow.

Come on, the ps2 is just ridiculously successful... perfect play ground for niche games like this one.

In other words... it's still too early to worry about.

Elixir Dec 20, 2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Forsety (Post 554572)
I guess I was wrong, but I gotta say I agree with Generic on this. You're promoting laziness from developers by acting like this is 100% okay; but at the same time it isn't like anyone here outright said they wouldn't fucking buy it.

I loved Persona 2 more than pretty much any other PSOne RPG, and Persona 3 was decent enough, but seeing them shit out a new game in less than the span of a year now, on the same dated technology does worry me. Sorry if that's stupid to you or makes me look "elitist" or whatever but it's how I feel, especially given how much I like the series in question.

Persona 3 was made in July 06, and it took just over a year to translate. Atlus might've been working on Persona 4 since then, or FES.

And.. give me a break. This isn't promoting laziness, developers can make whatever kind of game thy like for whatever system they want (providing it isn't porn/extremely violent). Not supporting them is only encouraging crap companies like THQ and EA to spit out more next-gen games that are typically all graphics and no gameplay.

In fact, the niche crowd that appeal to this kind of game don't even own a PS3, but perhaps a 360 (unlikely) or a Wii (possibly).

In the chances that it's an English FES release disguised as Persona 4, I can't rule that out since FES is a 40-50+ hour RPG which is the length of most common titles these days. But yeah it's totally too early to tell what will become of this.

Cetra Dec 20, 2007 05:02 PM

I think a translation or report error is more likely in the PS2 -> PS3 part (since all the actual report mentions is "A new Persona 4 is in the works for the PS2") without anything following to rule out that it couldn't just be simple typo well before this is some kind of Persona 4 to FES mix-up.

But I doubt either is the case. Atlus did confirm a Shin Megami Tensei game was in the works for the PS3 and when the Persona 4 rumors started people just assumed that the PS3 game was Persona 4 so we'll probably see a P4 release on the PS2 then a new entry for Shin Megami Tensei for the PS3 soon after.

As for the news itself I'm actually on two extremes. I would actually love if Persona 4 was basically a copy of Persona 3 but with a far more complex social system that actually had some real impact on the story and character relations along with something better than a randomly generated dungeon, or I'd rather just have a totally new game with a completely new style and concept. If it ends up somewhere in between I'll probably just get pissed off because it doesn't have all of the elements that made P3 great while still feeling like too similar of a game to P3.

rpgcrazied Dec 20, 2007 08:58 PM

so when do you think we will get more info? we still dont have very much of it.

nanaman Dec 21, 2007 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rpgcrazied (Post 555026)
so when do you think we will get more info? we still dont have very much of it.

Well, all we can do is wait, right? It's hard to know when it will come.


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