[General Discussion] Sonic turned 15

Why back in MY day I was young and easily impressed by Sonic's one-trick-pony style, and now that he actually has varied gameplay that gets raped by shitty cameras I don't like him anymore. You damn whippersnappers are selling him out and denying me my Burning Rangers and NiGHTS!

...what it sounds like in here. Sonic Team. Give the blue guy a rest and let some of your other IP do the work so Sonic can recover his image.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by soniclover

So, I'm guessing this is going to turn into another Sonic "mope-fest" like the other thread.

Yes. This shit is lame because I'm the only one who's not wearing rose tinted glasses of nostalgia.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

I could write up a post about Shadow the Hedgehog 2: Revenge of the Jeep if you really want!

Is that shit even serious. :eyebrow:

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by bishop743

I thoroughly enjoyed the Sonic games up to Sonic 3D Blast. To this day though, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is my all-time favorite. Sonic CD was also really good. In my opinion, the series started going downhill with the Sonic Adventure games. They just didn't have the same excitement and sense of speed that the original games had and were known for. I've also tried both Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog recently, and neither of those helped to get me back in the series either.

Although the series has been in a huge lull for nearly a decade now, it doesn't mean that all hope is lost. I'm quite sure that a considerable fanbase still exists, and if SEGA were able to get in gear, they could make it profitable and respectable once again. Just look at the Tomb Raider series. The last few games were horrible but Tomb Raider: Legend is a very nice game and has seemingly given that series some much needed credibility again.

Regardless of the state the series is in now, this anniversary is still meaningful and should be recognized. So, congrats to SEGA and Sonic Team.

THANK YOU.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by soniclover

The Great Japanese music was butchered to satisfy the American audience (which was a bad idea). The music for the American Version could actually hurt your ears....anyways, the game had horrible bosses.

Why am I the only one on these boards who actually likes the American soudtrack over the Japanese one?! (Give or take a few songs)

How ya doing, buddy?

I thought Japan had the better boss themes and the last two levels had more likable songs, but all the level music before then felt horribly unmemoriable or even downright annoying. I would've missed the good parts though had it not been for the Sonic Rush soundtrack.

And thanx Infernal Monkey.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by soniclover

The issue I had with Sonic Rush is that it had some bad level designs. Also, I'm not liking the fact that I have to actually do "tricks" to get Sonic to "Rush" as fast as he can go.

Sonic Rush is in essence, Sonic Advance 2 minus all the suck. I'd probably argue that the level THEMES are old and shitty rather than the design. I'm fed up of green land -->deserts--->two metal places --> space, Sonic Team look at your Game Gear games and tell me why you gave all the good level themes for all those cheap games.

FELIPE NO

^Sonic Advance 3's version was just as pimp and you know it.

Also Sonic Heroes wasn't good or bad. It was MEDIOCRE, son. Fanbase pandering! that's IT! It had the most pimp final boss fight of ANY Sonic game (including 3&K, and that says something), but that doesn't save the rest of the game from being a mediocre fest.

Also Shadow's soundtrack was better than the game itself, I agree.

devilmaycry is asslame, son. I like how you continue to exist without brain cells.

Also Super Sonic has a point. This is still a 2-D fanboy retirement/complaint home. Can we find some good please.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

...

So Sonic Team. Where's a new Chaos Angel. Or Sunset Park Zone. Those levels were pimp.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

That game was also waayyy tooo easy. I fell asleep on the second act of the ice level, woke up, and found that I was at the boss.

It's that sad.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I still feel Advance 3 is underrated. Largely because

a)It had to pick up the trash from Advance 2
b)Two words: HEROES BACKLASH. While the fanbase was hating on Heroes, Advance 3 comes out with a partner system and everyone cries "HOLY SHIT NSTANT PHAIL" without giving it a chance.

Also I found the special stages for Advance 1 a complete bitch and 3's were a joke (minus number 7). Finding the chao was the real excuse for tag team actions, and they were useful. Best of all once you found the damn chao you didn't have to do it again, even if you failed to complete the stage!

Advance 3 has Chaos Angel, which is quite simply the BEST 2-D STAGE SINCE LAVE REEF! Complete with the best act mixes and everything! Argh, why the hell is that stage so underrated?!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by soniclover

It's not. Sonic fans all around only mention the Advance series just for that level. Chaos Angel Zone is about the only thing Sonic fans talk about (without spitting) on the Advance series. If anything, the level would be closer to being over-rated.

Huh. Never heard about that. Everytime I mention Chaos Angel elsewhere one person agrees with me and another 5 say "What's that? Didn't play Sux Advance 3 long enough to play it" I think I'll need to ask around some other Sonic boards.:doh:

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

^That's why I'm not bothering with a Micro. EVER.

I was speaking idiomatically.

http://www.sega.com/gamesite/sonicne...full/index.php

Yeah, because I'm an asshole and the 2-D Sonic fanbase is pissing me off, I'm going to necromance this thread!

Have a look at that site, listen and tell me how awesome that soundtrack is going to be. If it's one place Sonic Next won't fail, it's the soundtrack. (Also help plz. Can anyone rip those off the site?)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

YOU ARE MY HERO INFERNAL.

FELIPE NO

Ouch. I bet all the jaded Sonic haters would cheer.

Oh, and about the ripped music infernal, Sega's site has it at a wrong pitch (the song's slightly slower). Any way to speed it up to the appropriate pitch?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

...bad level design? In a 2-D Sonic. HA.

I thought the only 2-D Sonic with crap level design were all the late game Game Gear ones (Sonic Blast, Sonic Labrynth). You have a point with Shadow and Heroes. Even the abysmal Sonic Advance 2 had level design that suited its purpose well (HOLD RIGHT TO WIN ZOMG), even if you were aiming for the 7 special rings by the time you perfected their locations.

Someone on this board said Advance 3 was "Mario on fast forward" rather than a Sonic game, and that still boggles me to this day.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM7TDIjvGIE

I'm impressed. I don't know why, but I just am.

The music was added, btw. The cult has the original video but I can't freaking find it.

EDIT: Found it. But I'm not hotlinking, just go to their site and look it up under their upcoming stuff.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

No. He wasn't holding anything, unless you count Princess Elise somewhere close to the end.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

...these Sonic Advance 3 = Mario's levels have got to stop. Where the hell do these people get this from?

And I also like your bitching about the plot--"ZOMG SONIC HAS A PLOT NOW IT'S ALL DOOOMED!" "I can't make sense between two universes so IT'S ALL DOOMED!"

T.V shows/comics don't count in Sega canon, so come back when you sound a little more objective and less 2-D fanboy, kthnx.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

^I was specifically referring to Sonic Advance 3, not Sonic as a whole.

I'm not even sure where you get the fact that Sonic is trying too hard to be 'cool'. That's ALWAYS how he's been, he's always been designed to appeal to the cool crowd since 1991, and that probably won't change. If it's anyone who tries too hard to be cool, it's Shadow. (I mean, who the fuck says "I'm the coolest!" when they're getting their ass kicked?!)

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Furby

I saw the preview trailer for the new Sonic game and then I saw Shadow in it and I weeped for a moment...

Sonic used to be fun before they decide to give him "Street Cred"

You lose, 2-D fanboy. Sonic has always been about "street cred" since 1991.

Originally Posted by Hotobu

I haven't kept up with the new Sonic developments because the recent games have been such a dissapointment that it's been hard for me to care. Tell me if I'm right or wrong on the following.

The XBox360 and PS3 versions of the new Sonic are the same, which is also the one in the linked video.

This Sonic takes place in a world that is closer to resembling ours.

There is another Sonic game on the Gamecube which is (vastly?) different and whos atmosphere is more like the old Sonic games.

You're wrong on one account--the Nintendo Sonic is on the Wii. And why does setting even freaking matter? You're all like "Sonic's trying too hard to be cool so he's lame now" but that's what he's always been doing. LET FRIGGIN GO of 1994 and move on if Sonic doesn't interest you anymore. It swear it's turning into a goddamn mopefest again.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Actually I was talking Sonic's attitude: the "blue dude with a tude" jabber is just as "forced cool = lame" as the whole "This is tight!" Sonic right now.

I bet if Sega came up with Soap Shoes in 1991 Sonic would be all over it.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Furby

Fail. Around the 1st few games they made him more out to be a surfer. Even in the cartoons, he had more of a surfer/chillback attitude.

Now they're giving the Sonic guys Guns and Vehicles? Big difference there...

I like how you confuse Shadow with Sonic. Shadow has guns. No wait, Shadow HAD guns. Sonic never has, never will.

And the chillback attitude was the "cool" thing to do back in 1991. Nice try though.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Mopefest thread again *sigh*

I think I'll put the hedge on the backburner and enjoy OUR THE Nintendo for a while.

Jam it back in, in the dark.