[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

Haha So Drex is there anyway you could tell me some more detailed information about the weapons, or even possibly play the game for me? haha just kidding.

I'm thinking of devoting some serious time to leveling up my secondary party since they are only at 50 while my main is at 86. I wanted to have them equal before the Yizmat/Omega fights. Well definetley for the Yizmat fight but did you guys have to use your second party for the Omega fight?

Edit: Does anyone know where I can find a good Great Crystal map, or just give me GOOD directions to Ultima?

Axes//Handbombs are all based on W.Attk/Str/Vit + enemy W. Def. Hammers are the same way, except as Drex said, they attack M. Defense. Equipping something like the Cat-Ear Hood that boosts Vit+Spd, causes them to reduce their potential damage range. In other words, it makes you more likely to hit high, and less likely to hit low.

Poles aren't tricky at all. They're just a regular weapon that strike M. Def instead of W. Def. They're the only 2H weapon that actually combos better than the Masamune (which is why I would give the Genji Gloves to a pole user, if I had them).

Spears, I don't use because the Gungnir is actually rather weak, and slower than swords, bows. They've got slightly longer range, but in a team with a bow, that's not a good thing (as they're stuck in the middle).

The Grand Crystal? While seanne's advice is correct, the basic gist of what you have to do is open Virgo II, Capricorn II, Libra II and Taurus I.
Open the first 3 before going to the Aquarius switch to trigger it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Can I say that Carrot was bloody easy? He barely did anything. Oooh stop and a few pansy status effects, I'm scared of that. Yeah, wrapped up that level VII mark pretty easily. I'm in the Nabreus Deadlands now, pretty easy place so far. The troll guys are doing maybe 300-500 damage to my guys which have about 6000-7000 with bubble accesory, while I deal about 1500-2000 per hit. The skeletons do even less damage. So I'm planning on taking down 4 marks today, 1 already down - Carrot. The rest are the two golems and then the Deathscythe.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

WOOOOOOOOOOOP WOOOOOOOOOOP, Son just confirmed Final Fantasy 13 will also be avaiable on ps2; ''Final Fantasy to us is not just a game, it's a way of life. So for this reason we will release it to the Playstation Two aswell, the console that brought it to life.' Hironobu Sakaguchi.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo

WOOOOOOOOOOOP WOOOOOOOOOOP, Son just confirmed Final Fantasy 13 will also be avaiable on ps2; ''Final Fantasy to us is not just a game, it's a way of life. So for this reason we will release it to the Playstation Two aswell, the console that brought it to life.' Hironobu Sakaguchi.

That would be more appropriate for this thread. Also, why bother playing it on the PS2. It's like playing Rainbow Six Vegas on PS2.

Can someone tell me what I should do with the red crystal bug in the Deadlands. I don't have invert.

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Originally Posted by Spatula

That would be more appropriate for this thread. Also, why bother playing it on the PS2. It's like playing Rainbow Six Vegas on PS2.

Can someone tell me what I should do with the red crystal bug in the Deadlands. I don't have invert.

Kill it. That's all it takes. Remember when I said, some brave souls could try to trek through the Deadlands at low levels and reach the crystal to save, and Piccolo reminded me about the bug? Yeah.

So yeah, just approach it like you would an optional boss or something.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo

WOOOOOOOOOOOP WOOOOOOOOOOP, Son just confirmed Final Fantasy 13 will also be avaiable on ps2

wooop wooop, lol.

Originally Posted by Spatula

Also, why bother playing it on the PS2.

Because you would rather spend $40 than $640 on it?

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Holy shit... why did they have to make Tower so damn hard to spawn? Here's what I'm doing:

Killing everything on the 80th floor then using the Black Sigil to get to the next floor. I kill everything there, and then use the hidden Green Sigil to move on. In the next area, I take down the Aeronite and use the red Sigil which takes me to a platform with 2 more of the ghoulish looking dragons. After those are taken care of, I touch the purple sigil and wind up on the level with the hidden white waystone. Of course, everything is dead before I go on up, and Tower is supposed to be there on the 88th floor.

Nothing

I must be doing something wrong, or it has a lower spawn rate than when I saw it before, because it hasn't appeared in about an hour and a half's worth of up and down.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by seanne

Because you would rather spend $40 than $640 on it?

Not that I wouldn't have already considered the userbase without a Playstation 3.

I like how I fought the Goliath, and basically got wasted. I got Fran to high tail it out of there. Why is Necrohol of Nabudis hard. I'm about half way done the Medallion quest.

Metal Sphere, that crystal bug constantly casts restore on itself, giving it back up to maximum HP - that's what is making it hard.

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Spoiler:

Not sure if this is a spoiler or not, so I'll assume yes.

Just got Larsa for the second time, and heading about to do Hunts and the like. Looking at the stats on some of these marks (the White Mousse particularly) makes me cry--is there ANY way one is supposed to be able to deal with these at such a level?

Vaan 10, Balthier 24, Fran 13, Basch 24, Ashe 24, Penelo 13

Beyond that, at this point is there ANY decent way to make money quickly? I'm very behind on Technick/Magick purchasing, and some of them look really nice (Horology).

I just got to the Jahara, for those who haven't looked at the spoiler~

Fun game, though, already at 20 hours.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Spatula

Not that I wouldn't have already considered the userbase without a Playstation 3.

Why'd they need to mentioned FFXIII being exclusive to the PS3? It this just the same kind of announcement as the same one back when FFX was being worked on?

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I like how I fought the Goliath, and basically got wasted. I got Fran to high tail it out of there. Why is Necrohol of Nabudis hard. I'm about half way done the Medallion quest.

You got wasted... by the Goliath? That thing is easy, it's just a little heavy on the magic stuff. Try the reflect trick on it. As for the Necrohol being harder, there's 2 reasons for that:

- There's a Rank 3 Esper and 2 bosses in the area
- It's where the Nethicite shard that the Nabudis family held was used, ground zero of the destruction. With all that mist, it's no wonder that the monsters are stronger. On top of that, you have a lot of people who were killed in an instant, with regrets and all. A lot of the monsters there are either formed from people's regrets, undying patriotism (like the Deathscythe), and so on.

Oh, and the Baknamy are equipped with Demonsbanes and Demon Shields, and they seem to have the same effects on them as they do on you when you equip them.

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Metal Sphere, that crystal bug constantly casts restore on itself, giving it back up to maximum HP - that's what is making it hard.

Use the Nihopalaoa trick on it, cripple it as much as you can, and go to town. Hit it with Expose until it starts missing. It'll probably be immune to Disable, but give that a shot too. If all else fails and you can't overwhelm it, leave and go level over in Overlooking Eternity. Make sure save back in the first area every so often.

Also, if you have Reflectga + Aga spells and Opal rings, hit it with the Reflect trick too. Getting hit 3-9 times by magic is enough to slaughter most enemies. This is all assuming you don't have Reverse, since you can just cast that before he uses Restore.

Oh, and in other news...

Bestiary Completed

I was getting unbelievably bored running through the last few levels of the Pharos waiting for this thing to appear, and right when I was changing the song in winamp during the warp to the 88th floor, it appears. Tower is fucking huge. At first I thought the damn TV had screwed up, but then I realized it was just a gigantic Babil blocking the way to the elevator.

It was actually fun to fight, so much so that I fiicked on the required gambits to do the Reflect trick, and wasted him with Darkga x 9. Apparently, you don't need to finish the second page for each monster to finish the bestiary, just kill the required number. I still need 10 mandragora as I said before and a Garif.

Ba'Gamman's in the Den playing some board game against Migelo while Old Dalan watches. The title you earn for getting him in there is Scrivener.

Now the only thing left before I get Order of Ambrosia is Whiteout. The closest I've managed was four Rank 3 quickenings, the last one never comes...

Order of Ambrosia

...is what my sister pointed out to me while I was hurriedly making my way to the Clan Primer to check out the Gabranth figure. I'd completely forgotten about it, since I was so focused on getting that last thing in there.

After finishing the bestiary, I went to the Nameless Spring map in the Tchita Uplands, and turned off my gambits. A few minutes go by and I can't get a chain of 5 rank III to form, but soon enough I manage it (the game got very generous and gave me Mist Charges + Rank III after charging) and got Whiteout. Check the Den? Nothing. Then I hop onto the computer and check Children of Ivalice, and aside from the messed up order in which they have Luminescence and Whiteout, they have a good list. Seems like I'd never done Windburst, so I give a shot and nail it in under 10 minutes.

I'm pretty damn please with myself, but I'm going to go to the clan HQ and get my worthless badge. I'll see if I can get a picture of it soon.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

You got wasted... by the Goliath? That thing is easy, it's just a little heavy on the magic stuff. Try the reflect trick on it. As for the Necrohol being harder, there's 2 reasons for that:

- There's a Rank 3 Esper and 2 bosses in the area
Oh, and the Baknamy are equipped with Demonsbanes and Demon Shields, and they seem to have the same effects on them as they do on you when you equip them.

Use the Nihopalaoa trick on it, cripple it as much as you can, and go to town. Hit it with Expose until it starts missing. It'll probably be immune to Disable, but give that a shot too. If all else fails and you can't overwhelm it, leave and go level over in Overlooking Eternity. Make sure save back in the first area every so often.

Also, if you have Reflectga + Aga spells and Opal rings, hit it with the Reflect trick too. Getting hit 3-9 times by magic is enough to slaughter most enemies. This is all assuming you don't have Reverse, since you can just cast that before he uses Restore.

Not so much as a game over, that would be dreadfully embarrassing. So basically you're suggesting that I level up to take on the crystal bug? I'm at about level 50 for my main group now. I just got the aeroga spells, and have had the aga-level spells for elements for a while now. Also, as this is a stupid question, what are examples of earth magick spells.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Spatula

Not so much as a game over, that would be dreadfully embarrassing. So basically you're suggesting that I level up to take on the crystal bug? I'm at about level 50 for my main group now. I just got the aeroga spells, and have had the aga-level spells for elements for a while now. Also, as this is a stupid question, what are examples of earth magick spells.

There aren't any earth magick spells. I kid you not, I was surprised too. First they gimp out on Water by not giving us Watera/Waterga when an insane amount of enemies are weak to it, and then they don't even toss a single earth spell over. Unless Gravity is supposed to be said spell, which I highly doubt (since it's HP-based, as always).

Nah, don't level up on the crystal, as once it's gone, it's gone for good. Just saying that if you can't cripple it outright with the above techniques, go back to the save crystal, save and head to Overlooking Eternity and level off of them. It'd only take a few levels for you to trounce him with ease, anyway.

Did the reflect and nihopalaoa tricks work, or have you not tried it yet?

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What. There is no Waterga and Earth spells despite my Libra stating WEAK TO EARTH ELEMENTS, PLEASE INSERT COIN TO OPERATE EARTHQUAKE. What the fuck is that. Sorry but that's an instant fail for magick in this game. What is the Nihopalaoa (lol is this Hawaiian). Maybe I'm just not used to this challenge which is why I'm freaking out. I don't like the FOOBARS either - more like FUBARS - amirite.

Anyways, going to watch some anime like a sweaty otaku and then maybe come back to FFXII later tonight, or even past midnight.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Spatula

What. There is no Waterga and Earth spells despite my Libra stating WEAK TO EARTH ELEMENTS, PLEASE INSERT COIN TO OPERATE EARTHQUAKE. What the fuck is that. Sorry but that's an instant fail for magick in this game.

That's why I figured out and created the reflect trick in the first place. Without it, offensive magic in this game is gimped.

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What is the Nihopalaoa (lol is this Hawaiian). Maybe I'm just not used to this challenge which is why I'm freaking out. I don't like the FOOBARS either - more like FUBARS - amirite.

It's a necklace that reverses the effect of items used by the character who has it equipped. Example: Equip the Nihopalaoa and throw a remedy at an enemy. It'll be inflicted with every status effect that

• your remedies can heal
• they aren't immune to

And don't hate on the Foobars, for they are a most excellent source of the Sagittarius gems that you need to create the Sagittarius bow, the best one in the game (made of pure sex and long range).

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Anyways, going to watch some anime like a sweaty otaku and then maybe come back to FFXII later tonight, or even past midnight.

What. Unfortunately, there are some things you don't want Libra to tell you.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Yeah, lack of high-level water and any earth spells is pretty disappointing. I was waiting for quake before I realized that it wasn't on the license board. The Nihopaolioahe thing is the one that reverses the effect of curative effects - so if the character with it equipped uses a Remedy on an enemy, every status affliction that Remedy typically cures will now be his.

EDIT: owned.

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Originally Posted by Drex

Yeah, lack of high-level water and any earth spells is pretty disappointing. I was waiting for quake before I realized that it wasn't on the license board. The Nihopaolioahe thing is the one that reverses the effect of curative effects - so if the character with it equipped uses a Remedy on an enemy, every status affliction that Remedy typically cures will now be his.

EDIT: owned.

Don't worry about it, Drex. Owned would've been if I put up the shots I took of the badge, the completed den and the rank. I'll put them up now, and if I can manage to get the video up on Youtube, a link will be edited in.

Now, until the local shop gets Okami in, I'll try to get a Danjuro or a Yagyu Darkblade (20 Chain, no blade).













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Over 12,000,000 clan hunt points. Oh shit.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Spatula

Over 12,000,000 clan hunt points. Oh shit.

Yeah, sorry about that. All that chaining, probably contributed to that. The marks and rare game also give more hunt points than normal, so that adds to that. Basically, it's the value of all the monsters I've killed to reach this point.

Hopefully Rogue Galaxy, which is available later this month, will give me just as many good times as FFXII.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

You need to get Okami soon. All in all, I enjoyed Okami more than FFXII. I've already been through it three times (it's that good), so I'm full of tips and hints if you happen to get stuck.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Sweet. That's one seriously full den. Good work. I doubt I'll be dedicated enough to do that myself, but major props to you.

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Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

You need to get Okami soon. All in all, I enjoyed Okami more than FFXII. I've already been through it three times (it's that good), so I'm full of tips and hints if you happen to get stuck.

This... this is absolutely inconceivable. It boggles the mind, that a game could actually be better than this, but to be worth 3 replays? You've got me tingling with excitement, dammit. Now the wait until they get the game in is going to be that much worse.

At least I know where to go if I need some tips or advice. Oops, OT.

How did you chain the Bombshells without accidentally offing a bat? I have no idea how many damn chains were broken because of that.

Originally Posted by Drex

Sweet. That's one seriously full den. Good work. I doubt I'll be dedicated enough to do that myself, but major props to you.

Edit #2: You know what? I'll change my avatar and signature to Esper themed jigga-things. There are 13 Espers? Four rank I (Belias, Mateus, Adrammelech, Zalera). Five rank II (Shemhazai, Hashmal, Cucuhulainn, Exodus, Zeromus). 4 rank III (Famfrit, Chaos, Ultima, Zodiark). Hmm, I guess I'll start from the bottom.

Edit: Damn, owned. Heh, looks like you got your revenge. Determination? Nah, just the perfectionist in me (which is still nagging to get that remaining Garif and those mandragora). Oh, and my curiosity to see where and what the last two sprites in the den would be doing. Makes me yearn for a FFXII sprite-version or something.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Makes me yearn for a FFXII sprite-version or something.

I trust that, with your overabundant knowledge of the world of Ivalice and that specifically pertaining to the twelfth installment of Final Fantasy, there is a Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings for the DS, which from what I see so far from the screen shots, features sprite like characters.

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Originally Posted by Spatula

I trust that, with your overabundant knowledge of the world of Ivalice and that specifically pertaining to the twelfth installment of Final Fantasy, there is a Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings for the DS, which from what I see so far from the screen shots, features sprite like characters.

Oh, I know about that, and I'm hoping against hope that it actually turns out good. You get to use Tomaj, Kytes and his friend (the one who plays Sky Pirates) along with Penelo and Vaan. Definitely sounds like a light hearted affair, and I've heard rumors that Balthier and Fran may be playable.

If it's good enough, we may see more games taking place in XII's Ivalice.

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Just for the hell of it, since I knew it was the only concurrence I hadn't yet performed, when I fired up FFXII tonight I immediately threw a level 3 quickening on the nearest mob in Giruvegan to see if I could pull off Whiteout.

First attempt:

1) Pyroclasm off the bat
2) 1 quick shuffle, Flame Purge
3) Resplendance with no shuffle (at this point I start to figure I'm lucky just to get the first 3 level 3's off that quickly)
4) lots of shuffles... no dice until I'm at less than one second and I don't get a level 3 on the mist charge I do get... attempt over

Second attempt:

1) Shatterheart off the bat
2) Element of Treachery with no shuffle
3) 1 quick shuffle, Maelstrom Bolt
4) shuffle, Mist Charge for Ashe, gets level 1, quickly shuffle again, gets Maelstrom again... (getting slightly excited knowing I'm one lucky level 3 away from nailing it)
4) lots of shuffles... Fran gets Mist Charge... just a level one, I fire it off in my state of overexcitement... about 1 second left...
5) Balthier gets Mist Charge without a need for shuffle... and wouldn't you know it, Element of Treachery, mission complete!

So yeah, I got Whiteout on my second attempt (about 4 minutes spent total), not trying to brag or anything since it's totally just random luck, but after what I'd read on this thread, it was a little humourous =9.

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Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

The Feywood. Even then, those bastards are hard to coax out. I managed to get them to appear by clearing the map and zoning a few times. If you don't kill them fast enough, they'll start leveling themselves above and beyond the levels of Henne Mine enemies. It's not fun fighting a level 99 enemy, I'll tell you that much.

the problem in henne is not the level of each enemy ... is THE AMOUNT of bats + ghosts that comes after you! is just OBSCENE I still remember going there for the first time in order to get Zodiac and I was SO proud and happy about my 87 level and THOSE bastards kicked my ass badly is not fair having 5 or 6 bats coming towards you or 4 ghosts doing death to you all the time thats when I went bonkers and I went up on level to 99. mind you i was quite exciting lol I like changelles ( cant spell sorry lol )

Jam it back in, in the dark.