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Elixir Jan 22, 2007 06:38 PM

Universal DS Homebrew thread. Fucking cheapskates.
 
I'll update this soon.

Shaolin Samurai Jan 22, 2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir
- The M3 claims to have emulators built-in on the packaging, but doesn't.

Err yes, they do. The problem is, they are outdated versions of emulators that are still in development and being updated. So you're better off getting the latest releases anyway.

SNES emulation on the DS is definitely lacking, but I've managed to get Super Metroid running at near full speed and fully playable with SnezziDS. Anything that can do that is awesome in its own right.

Elixir Jan 22, 2007 06:54 PM

The thing I dislike about SNES emulation currently is the lack of support RPGs are getting. Some of them run perfectly fine, such as Earthbound, but the text menus won't display properly thus making the game totally unplayable.

Anything fast paced, like Rocket Knight Adventures or Gunstar Heroes is unplayable too due to the massive drop in framerate. I don't think the DS can handle a fully capable Gunstar Heroes. I know the PSP has issues with it unless you're in 4:3 mode, which sucks. You're probably off getting it on Virtual Console instead.

Gechmir Jan 22, 2007 07:02 PM

The slowdown is probably due to the fact that the Genesis had a special engine and stuff for running fast paced-games. The GBA had a re-release of Sonic 1 recently that was lambasted on here, and it was horribly slow and choppy because of this. I don't think that the DS can physically operate Genesis games to max capabilities due to this engine problem. Would other nintendo system games work on the DS? Should, but it'll take effort for many.

Krelian Jan 23, 2007 05:12 PM

After many fiascos last summer involving online payment systems et al, I gave up on trying to obtain a superkey and a G6 Lite. However, I'm very interested in this new R4 card, as QJ.net gave it an absolutely beaming review.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir
I don't think that the DS can physically operate Genesis games to max capabilities due to this engine problem.

Yeah, someone'll have to knock together a homebrew blast processor. :(

Ascendancy Jan 24, 2007 07:35 AM

Krelain, I recently purchased an M3 Simply, which is essentially the same as the R4 (same pcb everything) for £37 from here http://www.consoleplus.co.uk/product...s-lite-adapter

Works a treat.

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir (Post 371135)
Would other nintendo system games work on the DS? Should, but it'll take effort for many.

Most SNES games will work, unless you aim for the fast paced games. Like Uniracers. They'll (hopefully) iron out the RPG bug and I'll be enjoying Chrono Trigger and Earthbound on my DS sometime in 2007.

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I placed an order with these dudes and they shipped the same day.

FatsDomino Jan 24, 2007 11:13 AM

R4 and M3 Simply are practically the same with the slight difference of the R4 consuming a tiny bit less power and costing a bit less. I can't really figure out which one I want.

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 11:57 AM

They're identical basically (R4 is the CEO version of M3 Simply) so I guess it just comes down to personal choice.

Here's some pictures I took off Gameyeeeah of them.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/354/p60wz.th.jpghttp://img99.imageshack.us/img99/287...eall4pr.th.gif

Everyone seems to be going for the M3 (brand name, I guess). I went to bamboogaming and saw they were sold out. It took me about 10 minutes of googling to find a store that actually had stock.

FatsDomino Jan 24, 2007 12:04 PM

CEO version in that it looks more professional? =o

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 01:14 PM

CEO version because wikipedia says it's the manufacturer's own name, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wikipedia
R4 is a Slot-1 flash card for the Nintendo DS. It is actually the exact same as the M3 Simply and the two can be converted to one another by bridging a single connector on the PCB. However, there has been a rumor that newer R4s will be modified to prevent this conversion.

The M3 Simply uses the same exact board as the R4DS, with the exception of two points being soldered together. The interfaces are the same except for different graphics, and the cards have different labels. R4 is the direct manufacturer of the devices.


Soluzar Jan 24, 2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 372265)
CEO version because wikipedia says it's the manufacturer's own name, I guess.

Could it be you're thinking of Original Equipment Manufacturer, or 'OEM' rather than 'CEO'? The only 'CEO' I can think of is the one who is the boss of a company. The Chief Executive Officer. If not, then what does the CEO that you're thinking of stand for?

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 01:52 PM

It's probably OEM. Sorry about that, I can't really tell the difference. It looks like the R4 is practically identical to the M3 aside from some small internal specs, so Acer, it shouldn't really matter which one you choose.

I'm leaning towards the M3 Simply though, because of, well.. everyone else is. There's already been an update for it (apparently) here and I'd imagine people will start supporting it more. But a few sites are showing the R4's their top seller (I'm guessing this is because their M3 Simply's are all out of stock) so it's a good second choice in that aspect.

nabhan Jan 24, 2007 04:26 PM

I'm just curious, how does the SuperCard MiniSD stick out of the GBA slot if it's the size of a GBA cart?

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 05:08 PM

Because all GBA cartridges stick out of the DS Lite, and so, GBA cartridge sized supercards will too.

nabhan Jan 24, 2007 05:40 PM

Oh, right. I have an original DS so I guess that didn't occur to me. Guess I'll be picking that up then. Price value ftw

Elixir Jan 27, 2007 05:33 AM

I won't add this to the topic as it's already covering both of them, but apparently you can use a M3 Simply DS and M3 Lite Perfect together.

Source

Price: $ 119.95 (€ 90.45)

Contents:
M3 Simply DS
SD Reader
M3 Lite Perfect Aapter
M3 Lite White Color Cover
M3 Lite Black Color Cover
M3 Lite Ice Blue Color Cover
Your Choice of Slot1 MicroSD Card
Your Choice of Slot2 MicroSD Card

Description:

Turn your DS lite into the Beast it has been waiting to become. The M3 Platinum Combo can help you Boast up to 2GB of storage by using both the M3 Simply and the M3 Lite Perfect. This is your ultimate solution for running everything you want including backups, homebrew, mp3's, movies, and with the M3 Lite Perfect you have GBA support!

Combining the M3 Simply with your M3 Lite Perfect is the ultimate solution for combining performance, reliability, and storage. By having both carts, you can easily use data and add the ability of GBA support via the Slot 2 M3 Lite Perfect. After you load all your data onto your MicroSD cards you could easily never remove the carts again!!

The M3 Simply allows "on the fly" patching so you no longer need to patch your DS backups before putting them on your microsd card! Just drag and drop!!!

The M3 Simply is more than just a Slot 1 solution. It is also a passme (passcard) device that will let you easily access your M3 lite and allow you to run GBA backups on your DS lite.

Your Only choice now is to decide if you want aany combination of 1GB, 2GB, or 512 MB MicroSD Cards for storage.

Run Your GBA backups on your M3 lite without any patching and run your NDS backups on the M3 simply without patching!

Order your M3 Platinum Combo today and upgrade your DS to the ultimate machine you always dreamed it could be.


This is overkill, really. The benefits of this are that it doesn't stick out at either end, and you have full compatibility for both DS and GBA games as well as a built-in passcard.

But yeah, you'll also be paying for 2 1 GB micro SD cards.

FatsDomino Jan 27, 2007 05:42 AM

If that was the price with the 1 GB SD cards I might bite immediately. However it isn't.

I don't play that many GBA games either. I guess I could find a couple that I've been meaning to play but I could also just do that via emulator and save some money.

What's the word on that M3 GBA flash card anyway?

Elixir Jan 27, 2007 06:03 AM

Which one are you talking about? There's quite a few M3 cards that support GBA games.

FatsDomino Jan 29, 2007 06:39 PM

Uh well, the one with that deal of course, lix. =o

Elixir Jan 29, 2007 06:52 PM

It looks like the M3 Lite Perfect is just an upgraded version of the M3 Lite. I still find it highly unnecessary to own both of them (requiring 2 micro SD cards), for 2 GB of space and GBA game access.

Actually I'm willing to bet that once they manage to get GBA games working through a slot 1 device, the range of devices available will slim down. After all, the DS slot doesn't have a cover, like the GBA slot has. I think slot 1 will become more popular.

Here's the item description for the Perfect, you can compare it to the M3 Lite in the topic if you like.

# Compatible with all Homebrew, Freeware, GBA games without any patching required and without any problem during gameplay. NDS games require patching.
# Excellent Save compatibility. It support all saves types with the RTC function.
# Capacity is very flexible and only depends on the card you use, which now are up to 4GByte (32Gbit) on the market.
# GOLDEN FINGER (CHEAT Code ) employs the IPS system that prevails in the world, with more diverse and powerful distinctive functions than CHT. The unique Auto IPS feature completely prevents computer crash.
# With unique Super Real Time Save Function, easily operates and it can revive without limits.
# MicroSD card +Reader can be used as a U disk and it only needs drag here and there when the game is burning.
# Saves money: MicroSD card can also be used in digital camera and other products, and you can share your card as you need it without the need to buy a dedicated card for your NDS/GBA.
# Supports GBA Games, FC games, Emulator games, GBA Movies, E-book, Cartoon books, browse pictures, enjoy music and so on.
# Supports 4-key reboot to Rom menu function, and supports 4-key reboot beginning function.

Shaolin Samurai Jan 30, 2007 12:22 AM

The major difference between the M3 Lite Perfect and the M3 Lite Professional is that the Pro does not support GBA files over 4 megabytes in size.

Krelian Jan 30, 2007 05:09 PM

Just ordered an R4 "Revolution" cart and a 1GB MicroSD card for £50 collectively on ConsolePlus.

This ought to be good.

Elixir Jan 30, 2007 05:25 PM

Well, my micro SD card and M3 Simply arrived today. Currently I'm browsing around for skins, then I'll work on games/emulators/music a little later. I'[ll do it later though. Skinning is important.

The amount of people making skins for the M3 Simply is incredible. Here's just a few.

"Big Balls" by mavis
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2959/previeweo5.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14118762...mavis.rar.html


"Black Phoenix" by bladerx
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4659/previewui7.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14118995...aderx.rar.html


"BlueFLOW" by mFLO
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6742/previewyu3.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119276..._mFLO.rar.html


"DS Lite Blue" by neekstan
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5409/previewqw9.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119464...kstan.rar.html


"EverGreen [Final]" by _DiGiTaL_
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7010/previewbo9.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119722...iTaL_.rar.html


"FLCL Orange" by mFLO
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4076/previewub7.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120034..._mFLO.rar.html


"Golden Blue Eye" by Jin_CokteZ
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7673/previewpi0.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120771...okteZ.rar.html


"MegaMan" by bladerx
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7138/previewuq2.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120985...aderx.rar.html


"Metroid" by bladerx
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6499/previewlk4.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121229...aderx.rar.html


"Metroid" by Kyrax
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4996/previewcv1.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121532...Kyrax.zip.html


"NDS [M3]" by Katalyst
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2163/previewhm8.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121766...alyst.zip.html


"Nintendo DSlite" by kiruyama
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1586/previewlq8.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121996...uyama.rar.html


http://membres.lycos.fr/slave/images.../SimplyOsu.gif

I'll stop here but you get the idea. I've added the M3 forum and skin directory to the original topic.

Krelian Jan 30, 2007 05:34 PM

If the Simply and the Revolution are so similar, will those skins work on the R4 cart?

Elixir Jan 30, 2007 06:30 PM

I assume so, yes.

I'm currently using this one:

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6421/previewiy8.png

All you have to do is create a _system_ folder and place the pictures in. More here.

Edit: Heh, this is cute:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ww-preview.gif

When my batteries are charged I'll make a proper M3 Simply overview.

Shaolin Samurai Jan 30, 2007 08:46 PM

The Simply can actually be turned into an R4 and vice-versa with some simple soldering, as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIFnLNu3m4

Interesting if somewhat impractical and pointless.

Krelian Jan 31, 2007 04:50 AM

Hm. From every review I've seen they're identical in functionality, so that'd be REALLY pointless.

Nifty mod with the switch and all, though - However I'm guessing that what's on the removable media affects the working of the flashcart? What's up with that?

FatsDomino Jan 31, 2007 05:54 AM

Wow, skins look awesome. Lix, if you do any firmware updates you should tell us how the latest Castlevania works for it. I heard they were going to do some fixes for that. Oh yeah see if any homebrew works as well. I'd love to know if ScummVM works. I saw some moonshell videos and I was wondering what they're doing to get videos on there. Is there some sort of converter?

Yeah, so I think this is the best video display of the M3 Simply's functions I've seen so far. It's fun.

YouTube Video

Lacerta Jan 31, 2007 07:31 AM

Whether or not Castlevania will work seems to be more dependant on what type of MicroSD Card you are using instead of the flashcard itself.

Videos are converted either with the converter that comes with the CD or through other programs, as long as it converts to a .dpg I think.

I believe a new version of ScummVM DS recently came out... supposedly it supports DLDI (which is what the Slot-1s use to run their homebrew)

New batches of the Simply were made, they can't be soldered to R4s anymore, although not sure why you would really want to (aside from R4 getting their firmware update two days before M3).

Really enjoying my Simply, for once I'm actually playing my DS for more than one day =o

FatsDomino Jan 31, 2007 07:34 AM

Ah, it would be very good to know which MicroSD cards to get then.

Lacerta Jan 31, 2007 07:40 AM

Most likely someone will say Kingston or a SanDisk Ultra II since they appear to have the best record of playing all the DS games without any errors (aside from download play, that's more of a flashcart issue).

With the proper formatting supposedly the Kingston 1GB (Made in Japan vers.) will experience no crashes at all. Proper formatting is FAT16 and 64k Clusters.

Most of the crashes seem to be issues that the original cart had as well though, they are just more apparent on the rom due to running off the sd card.

FatsDomino Jan 31, 2007 08:08 AM

So what are you using?

Lacerta Jan 31, 2007 08:24 AM

I don't play Castlevania since I own the original cart, but I'm using a 2GB SanDisk, formatted at FAT32 w/ 16k clusters.

Although with the release of v1.02 FINAL I might go back to FAT16 @ 64k, since the issue I had with the beta was random crashing due to the slow speed of regular SanDisks trying to run at a faster speed (FAT16 gives more speed at the cost of some megabytes)...

I'll probably reformat it right now and try it out on campus to see how it works.

Buizel Jan 31, 2007 08:33 AM

...or make sure you get a Kingston that's made in Japan. NOT made in Taiwan.

Lacerta Jan 31, 2007 08:42 AM

Sometimes it seems more like the rom dump than the card...

Before 1.02 Final:

Picross DS w/ FAT16 @ 64k - 40second load time
Picross DS w/ FAT32 @ 8k or 16k - 40 second load time.

After upgrading to 1.02 Final:

Picross DS at either file system with any cluster setting - Instantaneous load.

These were tested with two Kingston 1GBs, one Japan and one Taiwan.

When in doubt, upgrade firmware? :erm:

Elixir Jan 31, 2007 01:34 PM

Picross was actually the first game I tried. It's weird, it worked once and then it wouldn't get past the jupiter screen. Doesn't matter though, because I don't even know picross.

Oh and Acer, that video was already in the topic.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...implystuff.jpg

Yesterday my micro SD and M3 Simply arrived. After opening it, this was it's contents.

The M3 Simply itself comes in the grayish cartridge. The white one is a shell which you can use if you've got a white DS Lite. After testing it out, I decided to replace the gray one with the white one.

This was pretty difficult because the screw at the back of the cartridge is like, 2 mm long and microscopic. If I had of dropped it, I wouldn't have been able to find it again. But after unscrewing the gray cartridge and moving the circuit board to the white one, everything seemed okay.

I'm pretty heavy handed (no pun intended) but even I managed to pull that off quite fast.

Next up is the case and strap, which both came separately. I put them together quite easily (same way you apply a wrist strap to the Wii remote, really). The case itself is very tight, so getting cartridges in and out is a little tough. There's room for 2 cartridges plus whatever's currently in the slot 1 of your DS.

The cartridges fit almost perfectly, and very securely in the case. It's surprising how well they fit. It's almost dead perfect. But getting them out, like I said, is a problem. You have to twist one side of the case a bit because you're wasting your time trying to get them out with your fingers.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...eaderstuff.jpg

The micro SD reader is really useful. You just stick the micro SD card in, take off the other end, and plug it into the USB. Bam, it'll detect it. Not difficult at all. This shot is to show you how small both the micro SD and card reader are, sitting upon my DS Lite.

After trying out the micro SD card, I decided to update the firmware. But the latest probably wasn't on the disc, so I decided to check that out first.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...e/m3simply.png

First up was the manual, although it's engrish'd to hell so I can't understand it entirely. I mean, it says to format your micro SD card, and when the remaining space is showing in the left pane, it can be used with the M3 Simply but nothing like that even needs to happen. Here's the contents of the instruction manual:

Spoiler:
M3DS Simply User Manual

The M3DS Simply Cartridge is the current top-of-the-line in DS SLOT-1 flash carts. It is Just an amazing little device like original DS cart size, it is a complete solution with no need to purchase any a additional components or deal with any messy software and truly the easiest media enhancer you have ever done; To simply put it, this is a must have peripheral for any regular DS/DS lite owner.

M3DS Simply Features :
~ The same size as an original DS cart
~ Build in PassMe (No need for boot card or anything else to boot )
~ Using Micro SD card (Trans Flash) as external storage . Cheap & variety usage .
~ Boot clean dump images
~ Super simple to use , drag and files over to the micro SD card .
No drivers required
~ Standard FAT system support .
~ Support different speed of micro SD card even the low speed SD card .Run games without any lag or slow down .
~ Upgradeable Firmware ( OS / Bios / Kernel )
~ Touch screen control & robust skinning support .
~ No need battery, back up the save file into the micro SD card directly .Never lose your save .
~ Auto detect the save type & automatic generate saver file.
~ Homebrew support, IO lib will release on launch.
~ Direct watch movie, listen MP3 & read TXT on the DS via the use of Moonshell .
~ Support WiFi , DS rumble pack & DS browser .

M3DS Simply Operation Instruction

1) Hardware installation
-Insert TF/SD card into USB2.0 MicroSD card reader/writer, format your TF/SD card as FAT format by Use the Computer;

-When appears “a removable disk added”, hardware has been installed;

-TF card (MicroSD) is used to save the games and data, once your micro SD card is formatted correctly, you will see "Free Space = *" in the right hand pane. Then you can begin copying ROMs over.

2) Place the LOADER:
Copy all the files at ‘system\english\skin-*’ on the disk to the root directory of the TF card (including _DS_MENU.DAT ; _DSMSHL.NDS ; skin-*.jpg and Shell folder); Copy the downloaded game (.nds) or the DIY-program to the TF card (Folder can be created as you need).


3) Unload TF card
-After finishing ROM added, then right click the removable disk icon on the right down corner of the screen, draw out the TF card from card reader/writer

4) Insert TF/SD card into the M3 DS Simply

-Insert the TF card with ROM into M3DS Simply, and then insert M3DS Simply into the Slot-1 while NDS/NDSL is power off. It will enter the new system of M3DS Simply when users start it next time.

-When NDS/NDSL is power on, the M3DS Simply is booted, a small loading screen will appear and then you'll be taken to the main GUI within seconds. You can select ROMs to run by the navigation keys or touch screen, press "A" button to enter the corresponding functions.


Next was the "M3.G6.SC SAVE TO M3DS Simply SAVE Transform", which pretty much explains itself, so I didn't use it. I don't have any previous saves which were important so I didn't bother checking to see if this works.

Anyway, next up was the rom trimmer. There's an exe and along with needless instructions explaining how to use it. You basically link to the file, and it'll say it's going to make a trimmed version, typically in the same location of the to-be-trimmed file, with "trim" added in the filename. It takes roughly around 8~15 mb off a rom to save space, which is awesome. I'll definitely be using this in the future.

Next was moonshell, but it doesn't matter about putting this on a micro SD card as it's not that important. I tried this, which brought up a "where to install moonshell to" menu, but it didn't want to install. But no big deal I suppose.

The last folder on the disc is definitely the most important one of them all. It's called system 1.00, and this is where you'll have to copy the files directly to the micro SD card. Inside this folder are two folders; English and Japanese. Select English, and copy everything that's there to the SD card. If you don't do this you won't be able to do squat.

If you want to add skins, download them and make a folder called "_system_" in the root directory of your micro SD card. Place them in and away you go. Keep in mind that you'll need firmware 1.01 for M3 Simply or higher for tihs.

Speaking of firmware, that's what I proceeded to do. Instead of running a .nds file and applying firmware through the DS like the supercard did, all you do is replace files. I found an almost always updated website here which has the latest firmware. I updated to 1.01 and then 1.02, and I'd recommend updating step by step instead of jumping to the latest firmware. It might cause problems.

The M3 forums are quite useful if you're getting a M3 device. Skins, updates, problems and everything of that kind goes there. Gbatemp's forums (although they're extremely childish) are pretty useful too.

When you boot up the M3 Simply you'll come to a menu with 3 options. Game, Multimedia and Slot 2. Slot 2 boots whatever's in your GBA slot - if there's nothing, it'll just freeze. Multimedia boots moonshell. Game takes you to your root directory where you can select roms.

There's (surprisingly) no save manager section. It's very basic. I decided to download a few games and trim them, and stick them on the micro SD card. After doing about 6 over the period of hours yesterday, and trying them, only one game failed to load.

That game was Picross, and while I was toying around with it they released 1.02final which resolved the problem. All other games work fine, and there's no outputting .nds files into .ds.gba like the supercard. You just drop a .nds file into the micro SD card, put it into the M3 Simply and it'll run.

I haven't tried moonshell all that much. On the disc and in the moonshell folder, there's a converter which converts video to .dgp, which is moonshell's video format. I haven't tried that out yet. Oh, and mp3 files run directly without any need to convert, which is nice (although I probably won't use it that much).

I'd say overall it's a pretty good buy. It's made things easier for people to get into, because it has a built-in passme device. But I think by "built-in" they just mean "works on every DS", because I didn't see any options in the few menus to flash the DS.

Last night I spent some time trying a few emulators, but didn't get any of them to work. I tried PictoDrive DS (Genesis emulator) but it didn't run. I know the DS isn't all that good on emulation however, so I stopped hunting after about an hour. No solution to that so far.

GBA games don't work either, like they say. It's basically a flash cart for DS games specifically, but that's fine. I only use it personally to try games before I buy, such as Hotel Dusk and such. As much as I spend on gaming, I'm very wise with my money. Then of course there's some games I want to play occasionally but I don't think they're a valid purchase, like Tetris.

That pretty much wraps up everything I've tried so far. I'm not interested in the mp3/movie side of the M3 Simply, but the DS games themselves run just fine.

Buizel Jan 31, 2007 01:37 PM

I'm using R4 and the overall compatibility is:

Sandisk Ultra II > Sandisk/Kingston-Japan > Kingston-Taiwan/everything else.

Even with Kingston Taiwan (which I have) the only kind of game that has some chance of freezing is game like Castlevania.

Lacerta Jan 31, 2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 377682)
I updated to 1.01 and then 1.02, and I'd recommend updating step by step instead of jumping to the latest firmware. It might cause problems.

It's funny because the M3 team stands by the notion that you can just go straight to the latest firmware and nothing will ever go wrong with any M3 product you use, although I suppose that really only applies to the R4 DS and M3 DS Simply ...since there is no "installation" going on with those products compared to the Slot-2 stuff, where there is actual installation process going on within the cart.

Anywho, I've been playing since my previous post where I mentioned possible reformatting my card, and so far it has been great. In the beta release I would have had a few crashes or slowdowns on some games, but final really cleared those issues up.

Of course there are a few games that won't support the soft reset (L+R+A+B+X+Y, enable by tapping the top right or hitting R when you are selecting a game), but that's just a minor inconvenience.

Elixir Jan 31, 2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit
Lix, if you do any firmware updates you should tell us how the latest Castlevania works for it.

I might try it but considering that I already own both Castlevania games for DS, there isn't much point. Seriously, they're good games, you should buy them.

I just need to, you know, finish Contact and start on my copy sometime.

Krelian Jan 31, 2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCN401 (Post 377685)
I'm using R4 and the overall compatibility is:

Sandisk Ultra II > Sandisk/Kingston-Japan > Kingston-Taiwan/everything else.

Even with Kingston Taiwan (which I have) the only kind of game that has some chance of freezing is game like Castlevania.

I ordered a Samsung 1GB card. Am I necessarily screwed, or can firmware take care of whatever problems might occur?

Sinister Jan 31, 2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 377717)
I might try it but considering that I already own both Castlevania games for DS, there isn't much point. Seriously, they're good games, you should buy them.

I just need to, you know, finish Contact and start on my copy sometime.

I've been playing Castlevania: POR on my M3 Simply for a few days now with no problems. I'm using the firmware that came with the device. (You're right, it is awesome)

Buizel Jan 31, 2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 377761)
I ordered a Samsung 1GB card. Am I necessarily screwed, or can firmware take care of whatever problems might occur?

That card would be under "everything else" and (beside Castlevania) most likey you won't have any problem when using it on R4 DS or M3 DS Simply.

Krelian Feb 1, 2007 04:53 AM

My R4 arrived today. Elixir; add Consoleplus.co.uk to the Dealer list - £40 incl. postage, they accept any kind of card under the sun and it only took two days after ordering to arrive (could have been next day if I hadn't placed the order at nine PM on tuesday).

Time to sling some stuff on my card and test it out.

Lacerta Feb 1, 2007 05:35 AM

ROM Trimming is the best thing ever.

It's gay for a few of the latest roms where only like 2MB gets removed, but for some stuff like Final Fantasy 3 where ~31MB gets shaved off that's pretty awesome since it's enough for a ~32MB rom if you trim that too.

I've managed to trim my 24 ROMs from a combined 1.600GB to 1.324GB

Elixir Feb 3, 2007 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 378343)
Elixir; add Consoleplus.co.uk to the Dealer list - £40 incl. postage, they accept any kind of card under the sun and it only took two days after ordering to arrive (could have been next day if I hadn't placed the order at nine PM on tuesday).

Done.

And yes, ROM trimming is beyond awesome - especially as it frees up enough space for another couple of games or homebrew applications.

Lacerta Feb 3, 2007 06:05 AM

Supposedly the DS-X Trimmer is the best one to use, but I dunno.

It has a feature that analyzes the rom to see if it was overtrimmed or not. The difference is only a few bytes but some people report it is enough to mess up some games.

It does batch trimming though, so maybe that's a plus. :confused:

FatsDomino Feb 3, 2007 07:03 AM

Wait, what program exactly messes up games?

Lacerta Feb 3, 2007 07:08 AM

Ah, other rom trimmers supposedly.

Sometimes they overtrim, because apparently some files will have 31.58MB or so of actual file and the rest is empty space to make it 32MB. Then when trimmed it will drop down to 31.something (not 31.58) so it could create an error.

The ds-x manager analyzes it and basically gives you a color coded system
Green = Smallest it can be
Yellow = Can Trim more
Red = Overtrimmed

Although I'm not sure how it actually determines the exact file size, but it pretty much tells you how small it will become, how much of the cart is actual data, and how much is crap.

FatsDomino Feb 3, 2007 07:20 AM

That and the fact that it can do batch trimming make it sound very attractive. Is there a place you can download it?

Lacerta Feb 3, 2007 07:44 AM

Well the only versions I've found are kind of lackluster compared to what the original was, but I haven't been able to find that anywhere so eh. It seems the "how much is actual data" thing was removed due to sometimes getting false information due to bad reading on the header or what not. Anywho:

The Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 or higher is required.

Since it was originally designed to directly transfer onto your DS-X, to put it on the hard drive is easy if you know where it has to go. Just make an apps folder in your C drive or whatever you're going to store them in (it goes based on drive only), and then when you trim it will copy it there.

DS-X Manager v0.2.4

I think the only function that works on it is ROM Trimming, since the creator wanted to focus more on batch trimming and trimming at the proper safe size instead of dealing with other things. It's good at what it does though.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 3, 2007 02:12 PM

Juicy new info on the G6/M3 Real, the next-gen slot-1 solution.

"The G6 DS and M3 Real will boast true 100% ROM compatibility and the ability to mimic an authentic NDS game cart 1:1. G6 DS will boast impressive USB 2.0 speeds with 16Gbit models first available, but higher capacity cards will follow. The M3 DS Real will support external flash cards."

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:08 AM

Wow, the support for the M3 Simply/R4 is booming. I'm liking the Monkey Island ones. Here's some more skins:



I can't wait for Phoenix Wright/Contact/Hotel Dusk ones to come along.

Lacerta Feb 4, 2007 02:15 AM

Hay Samus is dat a metroid on ur hed.

Man all of these skins are so awesome; it is becoming kind of hard to decide on one :(

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 02:33 AM

I've been interested in these for a while now, but I can't decide between the M3 Simply and the M3 Perfect. Can someone confirm the following please?

M3 Lite:
Don't need to flash your DS
Plays GBA games
Supports skins


M3 Simply:
Doesn't need a GBA cart
Don't need to flash your DS
Doesn't play GBA games
Is half the price of the M3 Perfect


If that's true, then the only advantage is that the M3 Perfect supports GBA, which is what I initially wanted. Could this be fixed on the M3 Simply with a firmware update?

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 02:45 AM

The only way any slot-1 device would be able to play GBA files would be through some sort of emulation, and suffice to say GBA emulation on a DS probably won't ever be seriously explored.

That said, I strongly recommend the M3 Lite. Yeah it costs a bit more but you're getting support for literally thousands more games and homebrew than you'd get with a slot-1 device.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:47 AM

I'm pretty sure your DS needs to be flashed in order to read any slot 2 stuff.

That means M3 Lite.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 380388)
I'm pretty sure your DS needs to be flashed in order to read any slot 2 stuff.

That means M3 Lite.

I had read somewhere what with the M3, the passcard replaces the need to flash the DS. Unless by "Flash" you mean put in the passcard, but I mean "flash" as in stick the screwdriver in the DS.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:56 AM

Well, if you don't have a flashed DS (screwdriver method, aka permanently flashed) and you're wanting to play a flash cart from the GBA slot, you'll need to have a passcard in the DS slot constantly, just so the DS can recognize that DS games are being run from the GBA slot.

Otherwise, the M3 Simply and R4 run straight away without any need for passcards or flashme.nds' or anything.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 03:18 AM

The need or a Passcard/Flashme can be a hassle, but at the end of the day I'm glad to be rid of the annoying health advisory disclaimer and to know that I can always recover my firmware if it ever becomes corrupted.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 04:22 AM

So Flashing aside, if I want GBA emulation, I should go for the M3 Perfect?

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 380428)
So Flashing aside, if I want GBA emulation, I should go for the M3 Perfect?

It's the real thing, not emulation, but yes.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 10:58 PM

And Snes emulation will work on both the M3 Perfect and Simply?
Also, when videos are converted to the .gdp format (or whatever M3 uses), about how much filesize compression occurs? I'm having a tough time choosing between 1G and 2G.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 11:00 PM

Eh, SNES emulation works on the DS, except it's extremely crappy and you have a very limited choice of games.

I haven't used my M3 Simply for movies so far so I can't comment on what they'd be like. I do know however that it's not a full screen video on the top DS screen. One of the videos in the topic shows this.

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 01:23 AM

A 185MB Episode of Negima!? got compressed into a 58.3MB dpg file after using the included conversion software that comes w/ moonshell.

I haven't bothered with moonshell yet so I cannot comment on how it looks, but I think the tools are designed to make it good enough to watch on the DS screen, which is fine by me.

Free.User Feb 5, 2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381237)
Eh, SNES emulation works on the DS, except it's extremely crappy and you have a very limited choice of games.

Is this because of a limitation in the DS hardware, or is it something that firmware updates could fix?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381237)
I haven't used my M3 Simply for movies so far so I can't comment on what they'd be like. I do know however that it's not a full screen video on the top DS screen. One of the videos in the topic shows this.

Well, it was a widescreen video but was stretched to the edges of the screen (while maintaining the correct aspect ratio), so I'm not sure what you mean.

Elixir Feb 5, 2007 02:03 AM

I very very highly doubt the DS could play quality video at full screen. DS emulation is weak, like I said in the original post. There isn't much homebrew emulation development for Megadrive and SNES departments.

Games like Earthbound run, but the text in the menus won't display. This makes games pretty impossible to play. Stuff like that. It isn't something firmware updates could fix, and I'm pretty sure it's because of the DS' capabilities.

I'm sure the SNES emulation will come around but not for awhile. When almost all 16 bit games work on the PSP, there isn't much incentive to get it working for the DS.

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381393)
I very very highly doubt the DS could play quality video at full screen.

It does, you just need to have the correct settings when you are converting.

Elixir Feb 5, 2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacerta (Post 381395)
It does, you just need to have the correct settings when you are converting.

This probably isn't all that noteworthy, but if it's running at full screen will the filesize increase by much?

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 02:19 AM

No, it all comes down to how you encode it, fullscreen or wide won't have an effect on the filesize oddly enough.

Free.User Feb 6, 2007 12:22 AM

Anyone know about the quality of Corsair Micro-SD cards? I know that their products are generally great (I own a Corsair 620HX PSU and XMS2 RAM, and they are superb), but I've heard that the M3s can be picky about what Micro SD cards they use.

I have this one in mind.

Elixir Feb 6, 2007 06:41 PM

I went ahead and downloaded FFVI Advance and then realized the M3 Simply doesn't do GBA.

No loss. GBA games I do enjoy are few and far between so if anything I'd just purchase this.

Sakabadger Feb 7, 2007 06:36 AM

I notice you didn't make any mention of any EZ Team stuff in your topic post. Why is this, bad experience or something?

I only ask because I have an EZ-IV Lite (slot-2 device with a passme for slot-1) and it works perfectly fine. I can't actually get moonshell to work, but I suspect that's an issue with my SD card.

Anyway, just tossing it out there as an alternative, since it is fairly inexpensive.

FatsDomino Feb 7, 2007 08:01 AM

Hmmm... well personally I wouldn't consider it by default since it's slot-2. I've been holding out this whole time for a great slot-1 solution. Not knocking it since a slot-2 solution works for you but hey I'm just talking for my preference here. Just that if someone were to ask me what to get "M3 Simply plus good SD card" would be my answer.

Lacerta Feb 7, 2007 08:11 AM

Well, it's mentioned but isn't given a little mini-review like the others. Maybe one day I will get a Slot-2 as well, so I can put that silly "Slot-2" option on the Simply to use (Which is not intended for GBA use apparently, but rather booting up the Slot-2 devices.)

Elixir Feb 7, 2007 04:27 PM

I tried running a Melty Blood: Act Cadenza video through moonshell at full screen last night. It was watchable, but definitely pixellated. Maybe some day I'll toy around with the video options of the dgp converter, but it isn't all that interesting.

I didn't mention EZ's stuff because I just don't hear about it anymore. Back when the SuperPass was all the rage, sure. In fact, in 2005 I had a flash cart of theirs for GBA, but I never did get to properly use it.

Free.User Feb 7, 2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 384201)
I tried running a Melty Blood: Act Cadenza video through moonshell at full screen last night. It was watchable, but definitely pixellated. Maybe some day I'll toy around with the video options of the dgp converter, but it isn't all that interesting.

Are you saying that the M3 Simply isn't good for watching videos at all, or do you think they could run fine with some tweaking? One of the main reasons I want to buy one of these things is for the video capabilities; would you suggest looking at a different product that handles video better?

Elixir Feb 7, 2007 08:05 PM

It could probably look better with tweaking, but since I have next to no interest in watching movies on my DS I won't be doing so.

Lacerta Feb 7, 2007 08:26 PM

Changing products wouldn't produce a better result, since it's all based on your moonshell version + micro sd card speed + encoding method.

nabhan Feb 10, 2007 11:14 AM

I have a quick question for anyone familiar with the Supercard MiniSD/SD.

How do you save GBA games? I tried playing Riviera, but when I save my file, it disappears the next time I reboot. I checked the Supercard website, but it's in engrish, so I'm not exactly sure. Do I push L-R-A-Select to permanently save it?

Elixir Feb 10, 2007 11:34 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure you have to press L-R-A-Select. From my time with the supercard miniSD, I tihnk that was the input command for a real time save. For a normal save.. well I just didn't bother. I know there's a menu in the supercard miniSD's menu which lists all the saved games.

They should be listed on the mini SD card too.

Lacerta Feb 12, 2007 04:14 AM

I figure I will see what all the Kingston hype is about, so I decided to order two 1GB Kingston MicroSDs from Newegg for about 32 dollars w/ shipping. I guess later this week I will test to see if they are really the superior DS Homebrew Media Card of choice.

Buizel Feb 12, 2007 11:55 AM

I hope you can cancel your order and order from meritline.com instead for $10.95 with free shipping (if you feel like it).

Last time I check meritline.com they were selling Kingston 1GB for $15.95. @_@ I might order another one for the heck of it.

nabhan Feb 12, 2007 04:33 PM

Amazon sells MicroSD cards for $10. Kind of surprising, but it's a reputable site and all so hey!

Lacerta Feb 12, 2007 05:55 PM

Honestly 32 dollars w/ same day shipping on a 2 day shipping method isn't that bad for two 1gb microsds (12.99 each).

Besides, meritline's shipping methods have issues with my location for some reason. I never get a package >_>

Free.User Feb 12, 2007 07:34 PM

I grabbed a Corsair 1GB Micro SD for $19 CAD from NCIX. Corsair is a pretty good name in the memory business, so I'll be the guinea pig for the Corsair brand.

Omnislash124 Feb 16, 2007 12:01 PM

Have a quick question here, do all the cards/carts on the first page support outside system emulation (e.g. GB/GBC/NES/SNES)? I know that the SNES/Genesis emulation isn't that good, but mainly, it's just for GB/GBC emulation which the DS no longer supports. I heard the GB/GBC emulation is actually pretty decent.

I'm looking at the M3 Lite Perfect. It seems to be capable of doing everything. It also seems that I don't need to flash my DS either, just using the Passme card instead. Opinions? Suggestions?

Unfortunately, it's about $100....

seanne Feb 16, 2007 12:54 PM

Someone should make a thread like this for the PSP~

Sakabadger Feb 16, 2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacerta (Post 388193)
I figure I will see what all the Kingston hype is about, so I decided to order two 1GB Kingston MicroSDs from Newegg for about 32 dollars w/ shipping. I guess later this week I will test to see if they are really the superior DS Homebrew Media Card of choice.

People only make a ruckus about the Japan-manufactured ones.

Taiwanese ones are to be scoffed at. Or something.

Elrasiel Feb 16, 2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnislash124 (Post 391813)
Have a quick question here, do all the cards/carts on the first page support outside system emulation (e.g. GB/GBC/NES/SNES)? I know that the SNES/Genesis emulation isn't that good, but mainly, it's just for GB/GBC emulation which the DS no longer supports. I heard the GB/GBC emulation is actually pretty decent.

I'm looking at the M3 Lite Perfect. It seems to be capable of doing everything. It also seems that I don't need to flash my DS either, just using the Passme card instead. Opinions? Suggestions?

Unfortunately, it's about $100....

I ordered this on too but have to wait since I ordered it from Canada but as far as I know you cant go wrong with it. Just make sure that you got a card reader since this is not included.

Lacerta Feb 17, 2007 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakabadger (Post 392259)
People only make a ruckus about the Japan-manufactured ones.

Taiwanese ones are to be scoffed at. Or something.

I don't see why.

They are pretty much the same like the Japanese version, except they have like 30mb less of space (what, like maybe one game at the most?), and a slightly slower read speed.

The read speeds are still faster than any other card.

Buizel Feb 17, 2007 04:56 PM

Yeah... people only buy microSD card for their "DS flash card" and not for their cell phone (aka Kingston Taiwan card doesn't work on any cell phone I use).

Lacerta Feb 17, 2007 07:05 PM

my cellphone only goes up to 1gb which I think is retarded since an older model somehow supports 2gb.

Telekinetic Feb 19, 2007 05:30 PM

is it possible to have more than 1 saved game (.sav file) for ds roms? or are you stuck with only 1? i have a m3 simply if that helps.

Omnislash124 Feb 19, 2007 05:46 PM

Sorry if I missed it, but I don't think anybody answered my question...Does the M3 Lite Perfect (for the Slot-2) play Homebrew/Emulators+ROMS for GB/GBC/NES/SNES?

Elixir Feb 19, 2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnislash124 (Post 394928)
Sorry if I missed it, but I don't think anybody answered my question...Does the M3 Lite Perfect (for the Slot-2) play Homebrew/Emulators+ROMS for GB/GBC/NES/SNES?

It can, but it's shitty. I don't know about GB and GBC, but there's NES and SNES emulators out there.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 19, 2007 06:47 PM

The M3 Lite Perfect can play just about any homebrew developed for DS or GBA.
Of course there are GB and GBC emulators for the DS. They are pretty much spot on and run at full speed. It's the 16-bit stuff that is spotty. A lot of games are playable (Super Metroid!) but others are not (text heavy games that have problems with graphic layers).

Elrasiel Feb 19, 2007 06:57 PM

I'll bet a wondersawn emulator would crap the DS up.

Omnislash124 Feb 19, 2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elrasiel (Post 395005)
I'll bet a wondersawn emulator would crap the DS up.

From What I saw...

There exist Emulators for the following systems for a GBA (Slot-2) chip:

GB/GBC (Emulator: Goomba [Color])
SNES (Emulator: SNESAdvance)
NES (Emulator: PocketNES)
Spectrum Z80 (Emulator: ZXAdvance) (I've never heard of this before)
Sega Master System (Emulator: PocketSMS)
PC Engine (Emulator: PCEAdvance)
WonderSwan (Emulator: SwanAdvance) (Never heard of this either)
Colecovision (Emulator: Cologne) (Nor this)

And A lot more of others, but I'm too lazy to list them. Apparently, some guy by the internet name "FluBBa" is coding all kinds of crazy emulators for GBA/DS.

Talks of emulators for Lynx, Neo-Geo, Genesis are popping up from place to place too.

Lukage Mar 12, 2007 09:44 PM

I'm considering the M3 DS Simply as my choice emulator. Can anyone briefly give me their opinion of it?

Shaolin Samurai Mar 12, 2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 412155)
I'm considering the M3 DS Simply as my choice emulator. Can anyone briefly give me their opinion of it?

The Simply isn't an emulator, but general consensus is it's a fantastic choice for a slot-1 device if you don't mind not having GBA functionality.

Elixir Mar 16, 2007 06:02 AM

I ordered yet another M3 Simply from Gameyeeeah.

Of course I went ahead and ordered this in the middle of feb, and it didn't arrive until today. Apparently my money wasn't cleared until about a week later and by then they were out of stock. I had to wait until the 5th of March for them to ship from their new stock. It arrived today, the 16th.

It looks like they've stopped doing replacement cartridge shells, because this second package is missing one. They've also replaced the blister pack for just a common cardboard box with plastic clear inserts.

Everything is the same for the most part, except the micro SD card reader is black. And smaller. I guess this is a good thing but I don't really care. I was able to just stick the SD card in, along with all it's current information, and it worked straight away.

It came with the same strap and blue case as the original, so it seems like they've jut improved the USB SD reader and managed to check out on doing free replacement shells, which kinda sucks.

Aside from that, nothing to update.

Free.User Mar 21, 2007 03:09 AM

I just received my M3 Simply in the mail today, and so far it's great. I'm a little dissapointed with the lack of SNES support, but the video and NDS emulation is enough to warrant its purchase.

Has anyone got Opera to work on their DS (emulated)? I've hear some sources say it is impossible, while others have stated it can be done. Does anyone have the Rom? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Lukage Mar 21, 2007 10:46 AM

Lame ass. I ordered my M3 Simply a few weeks ago and they're still backordered. :(

Shaolin Samurai Mar 21, 2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 415735)
I'm a little dissapointed with the lack of SNES support

For the love of god man. As I've stated repeatedly in this thread, there are multiple SNES emulators readily available for Slot-1 and Slot-2 devices.

SnemulDS - still being supported and in development, this is the emulator to look into. Version 0.4 works awesome and I was able to beat Super Metroid on it. Supports save states and SRAM saves, and has graphic layer options. Doesn't support large romsizes yet so some rom hacks won't work. Should work fine on Simply.

http://www.pocketheaven.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=5428 - message board post with link to latest version, 0.4 final

You can also look into SnezziDS and SNESDS. SnezziDS actually ran a Super Metroid rom hack that SnemulDS wouldn't, but it's no longer being supported.

Free.User Mar 21, 2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 415928)
For the love of god man. As I've stated repeatedly in this thread, there are multiple SNES emulators readily available for Slot-1 and Slot-2 devices.

For the love of god man, not that many games are playable, and the inability to play roms larger than 4MB is a downer.

Shaolin Samurai Mar 21, 2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 415965)
For the love of god man, not that many games are playable, and the inability to play roms larger than 4MB is a downer.

Wow dude. I'm not sure if you understand how to read a table so let me point out from that wiki you posted, the vast majority of games tested for 0.4 final actually do work. Notice that there are different charts for the different versions.

And like I said, it's version ZERO POINT 4, meaning IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. And also like I said, SnezziDS currently supports larger rom sizes (4mb+) (but only for slot-2, nyah).

Learn to appreciate what others have put time and effort into instead of complaining about everything.

Free.User Mar 22, 2007 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 415975)
Wow dude. I'm not sure if you understand how to read a table so let me point out from that wiki you posted, the vast majority of games tested for 0.4 final actually do work. Notice that there are different charts for the different versions.

And like I said, it's version ZERO POINT 4, meaning IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. And also like I said, SnezziDS currently supports larger rom sizes (4mb+) (but only for slot-2, nyah).

Learn to appreciate what others have put time and effort into instead of complaining about everything.

Ok, let's get one thing strait. Not once did I say "nobody is doing anything about Snes emulation on the DS", infact, I love the work people are doing. Perhaps "lack of support" was a poor choice of words on my behalf, because I was referring to the issue in general, not the people who are behind it.

The majority of the games in that list were compatible, but that is only a very small slice of the entire Snes library. I wanted to play games such as Seiken Densetsu III, Illusion of Gaia, and Kirby's Dreamland 3, but that is not possible at this stage. As such, I am disappointed, and rightly so. I don't understand where you picked up that I was rapping on the people behind the emulation projects.

Elixir Mar 22, 2007 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 416366)
Not once did I say "nobody is doing anything about Snes emulation on the DS", infact, I love the work people are doing. Perhaps "lack of support" was a poor choice of words on my behalf

No, no, that's pretty accurate. There's what... 2-3 SNES emulators for this kinda shit? I think ONE is being worked on, while the others are pretty much outdated (early 2006, 2005) material.

Seriously, I've said it before. If you want emulated, portable SNES games, buy a gamepark or PSP.

Shaolin Samurai Mar 22, 2007 10:40 AM

Except a "lack of support" would mean that there are no emulators, period. Clearly that is not the case. You give DS SNES emulation far too little credit.

Free.User Mar 22, 2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 416513)
Except a "lack of support" would mean that there are no emulators, period.

I don't want to turn this thread into an argument, but let me just say that "lack" has many connotations and does not imply a complete absence.

Anyway

I'm going on a train trip to Victoria today (4 hours there, 4 hours back), so the M3 couldn't have arrived at a more opportune moment. Time to put it to the test.

Shaolin Samurai Mar 22, 2007 06:57 PM

I reiterate, you both are giving the DS emulation scene too little credit. The DS doesn't come close to the processing power of the PSP so holding it to the PSP's standards is a little unfair.

My issue with you saying "lack of support" is that there really is quite adequate support. What, do you want there to be 10 or 20 different SNES emulators out there that all basically do the same thing? There's only a handful because that is all that is necessary. SNEmulDS is basically a collaborative effort as the CPU and sound emulation were contributed by other coders, making it the most ambitious and promising emulator for the DS right now.

My concern is that your negativity towards it will turn off other people in this thread from trying it out. Again, the wiki that Free.User posted only shows what games users have actually tested and submitted themselves. It is not a complete list of all games that are supported. And right now most of the games tested for v0.4 Final actually do work.

That being said, there are several SNES games that used special chips in the cartridges that will probably never be able to be properly emulated. You can see a list of these games here.

Additional Spam:
By the way Elixir, I'm not familiar with the PSP homebrew scene. Exactly how good is SNES emulation on the PSP? As far as speed, compatibility, large rom size support, graphics layers support, special chip support, etc.a

Elixir Mar 23, 2007 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 416765)
By the way Elixir, I'm not familiar with the PSP homebrew scene. Exactly how good is SNES emulation on the PSP? As far as speed, compatibility, large rom size support, graphics layers support, special chip support, etc.

Fairly high. You can overclock a PSP to 366MHz so it'll run games (and emulated games) faster. There's only slowdown on fast paced SNES and Genesis games, like Gunstar Heroes and Uniracers. I've played through a few Genesis games on a PSP (at least, when I OWNED one) and it's been sweet.

There's a few here and there that don't work, but the PSP emulation scene is booming. There's at least a new app or upgrade every week on qj.net.

This is why I'm not interested in emulation on the DS, since the PSP covers almost all of it.

mortis Mar 23, 2007 06:43 AM

Will wonders never cease. I was taking a look at Game Park and it's pretty awesome...like an all-in-one hand held retro-console, MP3 player, MP4 player, PDF reader, etc.

Anyway, as for NDS SNES Emulation, a good summary is consisting of both sides:

"NDS SNES Emulation is still in the development phases. While promising, users should be aware that only a handful of games work, and only a handful of those games work perfectly. Users are encouraged to try it out (and report results), but should keep an open mind that it is still a work-in-progress (as support comes from a variety of people), and that future releases will result in more games working at optimized settings."

Everyone happy?

Elixir Apr 9, 2007 05:33 PM

Updated with different prices and a few tweaks here and there. I've also backed up this so if the site decides to take another fall, we won't be completely ruined.

I've also been checking out the No$GBA emulator for DS. It runs surprisingly well (as in, games actually run) but whenever there's action on the screen it ends up dropping to somewhere between 3 and 9 fps. Unless you have a really high end PC, don't bother.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...emulatedds.jpg

Lukage Apr 9, 2007 09:33 PM

More than a month since I ordered my M3 Simply. :( I hope they come back in stock. Some time. Ever. :(

mortis Apr 10, 2007 08:46 AM

Cool deal Elixer. It may be a nice way to finally try out games before I buy them (even if it is slow at this point, but hey, I guess that's why it's good to BUY the games you like, eh?).

Lukage Apr 12, 2007 10:41 AM

It seems that complaining did the trick. The M3 Simply is listed at a 3-day in stock. Wewt.

Decoy Goat Apr 15, 2007 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 415735)
Has anyone got Opera to work on their DS (emulated)? I've hear some sources say it is impossible, while others have stated it can be done. Does anyone have the Rom? I couldn't find it anywhere.

As of last week when I checked again you can run opera if you have a slot 1 device, because the browser checks the slot 2 space for the extra memory that would come in the form of the attachment that comes with the browser.

There's a patched version of the browser rom all over the internet.

http://www.nintendo-ds-roms.com/

They seem to have everything, but you'll need to get emule.

Lukage Apr 16, 2007 09:54 PM

Okay, I'm loading my M3 Simply with tons of crap. Browser and VoiP software aren't working. Anyone with suggestions and/or links are welcome to give 'em. Also, I've yet to go into the lands of emulation outside NDS roms. This is where you guys come in as well. <3

The M3 is awesome!

EDIT: The above link is only for roms though...and eMule is bleh.

Elixir May 7, 2007 08:53 AM

- Added Table of Contents
- Added keywords
- Cleared up some broken links, relocated flashme.nds
- Fixed some typos.

Syndrome May 7, 2007 03:52 PM

I also joined the clan of M3 Simply owners recently.
The whole scene of DS homebrew felt complicated, and when I read up on the simply I felt "This is the card for me".

Extremely easy to install, handle and use. Works like a charm. Every time.

One card - 1,000 hours of fun :tpg:

Also, I tried out the SNES emulator SNEmulDS. Tried out some Chrono Trigger, some text was weird, the menu is wacked and the sound goes hozo sometimes. I read however that the developer will fix sound and graphics for the most popular Square and Enix games due SNEmulDS 0.5b. Can't wait.

Rock May 7, 2007 04:14 PM

I'm terribly disappointed in the homebrew department of the DS. So far, I've tested quite a few of the more popular applications and nothing is all that impressive.

ScummVM has all sorts of display and sound problems and can't run the newer games. DSOrganize is pretty handy but looks like crap. Moonshell seems quite powerful at first glance but is a pain to use (who needs drag & drop windows on such a small screen?) and converting videos so you can watch them stutter in super crappy quality on the DS doesn't seem right. I spent a couple of hours with Tower Defense, but it's still pretty buggy and gets boring fast. Emulation isn't nearly fast enough even for NES at times. I don't understand how anyone can expect to play SNES or Genesis games at decent speed on the DS anytime soon.

I now use my R4 for game backups and nothing else. Homebrew on the DS is in its infancy. If you're into these kinds of things, you absolutely need to get a PSP. That's where the Homebrew scene is really at right now.

chaofan May 8, 2007 02:11 AM

Rock, I've also got an R4 and tried using BeUp Messenger and Okiwi Internet to work, but for some reason they don't connect to the internet. I've got that DLDI patching thing but I haven't the foggiest idea of what to do. Any ideas?

And yeh, homebrew ain't that great on many Slot-1 cards yet but one nifty thing about the R4 is the latest firmware update (1.08): Action REEEPLAY (actioning replaying the crap outta POKEMON!!! w00t l33tZ etc etc.)

Shaolin Samurai May 8, 2007 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 429450)
Also, I tried out the SNES emulator SNEmulDS. Tried out some Chrono Trigger, some text was weird, the menu is wacked and the sound goes hozo sometimes. I read however that the developer will fix sound and graphics for the most popular Square and Enix games due SNEmulDS 0.5b. Can't wait.

SnemulDS 0.5 beta is out now, and Chrono Trigger runs at full speed with near perfect sound. There is still some text issues right now but the game is fully playable as is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock (Post 429465)
I don't understand how anyone can expect to play SNES or Genesis games at decent speed on the DS anytime soon.

That's funny - I have 62 SNES roms on my M3 Lite, and 51 of them are running at full speed with near perfect sound and fully visible layers, with working SRAM saves and savestates.

Taco May 10, 2007 05:44 PM

I'm trying to run SnemulDS, but it keeps saying it can't find the ROM files in the ROM directory, which I left as the default /SNES in the root folder. Does it want ZIP files or SMC files?

Edit: I just tried zip files, too. No matter what I do when I run the NDS file it doesn't find the files. I'm using an R4 with an unpatched SnemulDS.nds, haven't touched the config file.

Shaolin Samurai May 10, 2007 07:18 PM

You need to use the version DLDI patched for M3 Simply and R4s, conveniently available here: http://snemul.com/ds/SNEmulDSv05b_M3S_R4.zip

Leave the roms as .SMC files, and if it doesn't find them restart your DS and run it again.

Taco May 11, 2007 12:49 AM

Oh hey, that did it. Thanks for the help!

Now is there any way to adjust the emulated screen size? It wants to chop off a bit from the top and bottom as it wants to stretch to fit horizontally, but I'd much rather have it fit vertically and have it be a bit squished. The lack of the bottom pixels has cost me many a life in Mario All Stars.

Rock May 11, 2007 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 430355)
That's funny - I have 62 SNES roms on my M3 Lite, and 51 of them are running at full speed with near perfect sound and fully visible layers, with working SRAM saves and savestates.

I guess it all depends on your own definition of "full speed" and "near perfect sound".

By all means, Chrono Trigger does not run at full speed nor is the sound anywhere near perfect in SNEmulDS 0.5b. In fact, the game suffers from massive slowdown, lacks transparency effects and the constant croaking and hissing that is supposed to be music is unbearable.

I guess you can live with that if you're a masochist and never played the original, but I wouldn't want to spoil the experience of such an awesome game with crappy DS emulation.

Shaolin Samurai May 11, 2007 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco (Post 431837)
Now is there any way to adjust the emulated screen size? It wants to chop off a bit from the top and bottom as it wants to stretch to fit horizontally, but I'd much rather have it fit vertically and have it be a bit squished. The lack of the bottom pixels has cost me many a life in Mario All Stars.

Yscroll can be set to top or bottom to see more of the top or bottom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock (Post 431919)
I guess it all depends on your own definition of "full speed" and "near perfect sound".

By all means, Chrono Trigger does not run at full speed nor is the sound anywhere near perfect in SNEmulDS 0.5b. In fact, the game suffers from massive slowdown, lacks transparency effects and the constant croaking and hissing that is supposed to be music is unbearable.

I guess you can live with that if you're a masochist and never played the original, but I wouldn't want to spoil the experience of such an awesome game with crappy DS emulation.

Use "Cycles speed hacks" and "no wait vblank" to get the game to run at full speed - 95% - 100% (with some major frame skipping, but full speed nonetheless). I have played the original game on an SNES extensively, and I am not experiencing any "massive slowdown" or "constant croaking and hissing." The sound is in perfect sync and there are some occasional pops and cracks there though. Key word is occasional though.

What specific "transparency effects" are you having trouble with? Every else looks fine for me except for the text (known emulation issue). If you are having trouble seeing some platforms try BG settings 2031, but Auto seems to work fine for me. Keep in mind that the layer priorities are fully customizable so you can tinker with those and see what works best for you.

You seem to be alone in your assessment of Chrono Trigger, especially regarding the sound. Everyone here is reporting much better results...

And I really do mean that 51 of my roms are working at full speed with near perfect sound. Chrono Trigger is the WORST emulated out of all of them that load- the rest are damn near perfect in every way. I encourage you to try out more roms and see if your opinion hasn't changed.

Rock May 11, 2007 05:59 AM

I'm not here to argue with you and DS owners have all the right to be excited about this proof of concept.

I've tested the latest version of SNEmulDS quite extensively, but it's nowhere near as accurate in terms of emulation as PC emulators or even Snes9x on the PSP. At this point, SNES emulation on the DS is still defective in comparison. That's all I was trying to say.

Taco May 11, 2007 03:11 PM

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For all who like skins and care about animu/Touhou, I've put together a Touhou skin featuring the final boss of Perfect Cherry Blossom, Yuyuko Saigyouji. There's a million and a half Touhou characters, so I doubt I'll end up making themes for all of them, but possibly a couple more provided I can find art for them.

Here's the preview, and attached is the file.

http://www.another14.com/images/yuyu-preview.jpg

Syndrome May 11, 2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 431933)
And I really do mean that 51 of my roms are working at full speed with near perfect sound. Chrono Trigger is the WORST emulated out of all of them that load- the rest are damn near perfect in every way. I encourage you to try out more roms and see if your opinion hasn't changed.

Could you please name some SNES games that works great on SNEmulDS 0.5b on an M3 DS Simply? I tried out Chrono Trigger, which didn't work very pleasantly, but I wish to try a couple of other games before I bash the emu.

Also, I am fairly picky. Please name your best working games ;)

Shaolin Samurai May 11, 2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 432163)
Could you please name some SNES games that works great on SNEmulDS 0.5b on an M3 DS Simply? I tried out Chrono Trigger, which didn't work very pleasantly, but I wish to try a couple of other games before I bash the emu.

Also, I am fairly picky. Please name your best working games ;)

I can't speak for Simply users specifically but here are some titles known to work great off the top of my head:

Prince of Persia (U)
Shadowrun (U)
Super Metroid (JU)
Cybernator (U)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (U)
Goof Troop (U)
Terranigma (U)
Bio Metal (U)
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time (U)

Also be sure to check out these compatability lists:
http://wiki.pocketheaven.com/SNEmulD...atibility_List
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/index.php/SN...atibility_List

Just keep in mind that any games that utilize special co-processor chips like Star Fox, Super Mario RPG, Kirby Super Star, Megaman X2/X3 etc will NOT work as those chips are not currently emulated.

Also games that utilize the SNES's high-resolution modes like Seiken Densetsu 3 will be pretty much unplayable for similar reasons.

spikeh May 13, 2007 08:15 AM

Got my M3 DS Simply and Lite a month ago and I'm loving it. I've always wondered when they'll ditch proprietary memory for cheaper and upgradable flash memory. It sure suits the compulsive obsessive (such as myself) since I can carry loads of games with me at once.

For those in the UK, two good dealers are MrModchips and Modchip-Store. There may still be some DS Simplys floating around on eBay although they had a massive crackdown on sellers selling those items.

Elixir May 13, 2007 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco (Post 432122)
For all who like skins and care about animu/Touhou, I've put together a Touhou skin featuring the final boss of Perfect Cherry Blossom, Yuyuko Saigyouji. There's a million and a half Touhou characters, so I doubt I'll end up making themes for all of them, but possibly a couple more provided I can find art for them.

Here's the preview, and attached is the file.

Hey that's actually pretty sweet.

I think the problem with emulators on the DS is that it's so much more easier and stable to do so on a PSP, simply because it's got more support. A lot of Megadrive, SNES, SMS and NES games work perfectly on a PSP simply by running the most current emulator and rom. Most of the time anyway. Most people just use slot-1 and slot-2 devices for GBA and DS games, or for applications like DSOrganize.

I use it to keep all my games in a single cart. I have what, 15-20 something DS games? It's just easier when they're all there at once.

Xardion May 15, 2007 12:23 AM

Ok, so I got my M3 Simply, and I've run into a bit of a problem. It's nothing major, but it makes me sad. I can't for the life of me get skins to work on it. The only two things I had seen mention of to work it is to put the skin images in the _system_ folder, or in _system_\themes\theme##. I tried all that, and I even tried having taco send me his _system_ file and that didn't work. Tried having the images in the root directory, too. I've run out of ideas and I've annoyed Taco enough, so I'm seeing if any of you guys can help.

Also, Taco told me to link this image and tell you that I have a SanDisk 2 gig card.

Elixir May 15, 2007 01:13 AM

Stick bckgrd_1.bmp, bckgrd_2.bmp, icons.bmp, logos.bmp etc, in the "_system_" folder.

Also you're missing a Preview.bmp from that screenshot. Probably why it isn't working.

Taco May 15, 2007 01:56 AM

We tried putting them right in the _system_ folder. Also, the R4 doesn't need a preview, is it different in the M3?

Elixir May 15, 2007 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco (Post 433817)
We tried putting them right in the _system_ folder. Also, the R4 doesn't need a preview, is it different in the M3?

But.. Xard doesn't have an R4.

On my M3 Simply I have bckgrd 1, 2, icons, logo and preview (capital P) in _system_ and they run fine. Apparently if you aren't running XP it could cause issues too. Should I just upload everything on my micro SD card instead?

Anyway I'm currently using this skin:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7...ttorneyig7.png

Rock May 15, 2007 07:17 AM

Here's how skinning your R4/M3 works:

By default, you get 12 directories in _system_\themes\ - these are for having a different theme for each month, from January (\theme01\) to December (\theme12\). They change automatically according to your calendar.

Alternatively, you can cycle through these themes manually.

If you want to use a single skin, it's safe to remove the \themes\ directory altogether and just put the theme files in the _system_ directory.

A theme consists of these 4 files: backgrd_1.bmp, backgrd_2.bmp, icons.bmp and logo.bmp. If you want individual text/selection colors, there's an optional theme.ini file to go along with the theme (same directory).

An awesome theme to use with the R4/M3 is Duotone. It was originally created for the M3 Simply, but comes with replacement graphics for R4. There's also a Moonshell version of Duotone, grab it here.

http://zeldalinks.net/hosted/justin/...creen-Blue.jpg

http://zeldalinks.net/hosted/justin/...ue-Preview.jpg

Xardion May 15, 2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 433824)
But.. Xard doesn't have an R4.

On my M3 Simply I have bckgrd 1, 2, icons, logo and preview (capital P) in _system_ and they run fine. Apparently if you aren't running XP it could cause issues too. Should I just upload everything on my micro SD card instead?

Well this is the first time I've seen a preview file mentioned. I just went to the m3 forum's skin thread and downloaded a new one. It had the bckgrd, icons, logo, preview, and theme.ini files. I got rid of my themes directory and just put them all in my _system_ folder. I still get nothing.

But if there's issues with not running XP, that could be my problem since I'm using ME. :(

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xardion (Post 433982)
But if there's issues with not running XP, that could be my problem since I'm using ME. :(

Wait, what?

Elixir May 15, 2007 10:40 AM

Xard short of sending you my entire folder I'd just post here: http://www.m3-forum.com/viewforum.php?f=32

They'd know for sure, since the entire forum is dedicated to M3 Simply skinning.

Xardion May 15, 2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 433993)
Wait, what?

It's not my fault, I swear! ;_;

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xardion (Post 434096)
It's not my fault, I swear! ;_;

You've got some 'splaining to do.

Xardion May 15, 2007 02:00 PM

My laptop is dead, so I'm stuck using my dad's piece of shit pc, since for some retarded reason he's got the other one password protected and won't tell me it.

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 02:12 PM

Gosh, sucks to be you.

Shaolin Samurai May 17, 2007 12:21 AM

YouTube Video

Nifty video of SNEmulDS 0.5 beta running on a Slot-1 card, showcasing Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Axelay, and Super Bomberman. The CT audio is a little more off than usual for some reason (author thinks running after Super Metroid messes it up).

Yeah, you can clearly see the weaknesses and limitations of the emulator, but also the potential and extent of playability in the current state. I'm still baffled that anybody would claim that this is still just a "proof of concept" though. And I certainly didn't notice "constant hissing and croaking" during the video's run of Chrono Trigger or during my own playthroughs... are you guys experiencing substantially less performance than what you see in the video?

JazzFlight Jun 10, 2007 12:39 PM

I've had an R4 for the past 2 weeks and I'm loving it for DS games.

Now I want to get the best possible GBA flash cart.

I'm really eyeing the G6 Lite, but I want to know one thing:

Can you use the G6 Lite in a GBA/SP/Micro when you use the included GBA-sized shell, or it that only for use in a DS Phat?

Elixir Jun 10, 2007 06:09 PM

G6 Lite is pretty expensive, though. In fact it's possibly one of the most expensive flash cards available.

I'd get a M3 Lite if you're looking to play with GBA games. Not sure why you would want to use a GBA or Micro when you can just carry it all packed into a single DS, screen size I'm guessing.

Shaolin Samurai Jun 10, 2007 10:02 PM

G6 Lite auto-fails because it has no expandable memory...you are stuck with the built-in 512 megabytes to store all your ROMs, homebrew, etc.

If you really want "the best possible GBA flash cart," there is absolutely no practical reason to get it over an M3 Lite with a decent MicroSD card. I just picked up a 2 GB MicroSD card for $25 at a local Fry's the other day.

JazzFlight Jun 10, 2007 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 449884)
G6 Lite auto-fails because it has no expandable memory...you are stuck with the built-in 512 megabytes to store all your ROMs, homebrew, etc.

If you really want "the best possible GBA flash cart," there is absolutely no practical reason to get it over an M3 Lite with a decent MicroSD card. I just picked up a 2 GB MicroSD card for $25 at a local Fry's the other day.

Well, I have some conditions/questions:

Does the M3 Lite:

-Work on a GBA (include some kind of shell to work on one)?
-Have as high compatibility as the G6 Lite (can it play 32mb games/support all save types/no slowdown)?
-Save directly to the card (not a battery)?

The G6 Lite has all these features, and 512MB is a TON of space for GBA games (the current flash cart I have right now is only 32MB). GBA games take up an average of like, 10-15 MB with trimming.

The reason I want to find this out is because I'm heading to Japan for a month and I want to hold a lot of games in the smallest amount of space. A GB Micro would be a good alternative to a DSLite in cramped conditions (plus, I can't just abandon my old gaming systems, especially not one that I just bought last year).

Plus, it looks like the M3 Lite is just as expensive as the G6 after taking into consideration a microSD card.

Shaolin Samurai Jun 10, 2007 11:09 PM

1.) Unfortunately no, the M3 Lite was designed specifically for DS Lites and no GBA-compatible shell is included. Also, the GBA shell of the G6 Lite is only meant to be used with DS Phats. So I'm fairly certain you can't use the G6 Lite with a GBA either.

2.) Absolutely. They're based on the same technology, like with the R4/Simply.

3.) Technically no. I concede that direct saving is a great feature of the G6. But the M3 Lite can still save even after the battery dies, if you use the soft reset.

JazzFlight Jun 10, 2007 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 449926)
1.) Unfortunately no, the M3 Lite was designed specifically for DS Lites and no GBA-compatible shell is included. Also, the GBA shell of the G6 Lite is only meant to be used with DS Phats. So I'm fairly certain you can't use the G6 Lite with a GBA either.

Hmm, as I was looking around, I came across these posts:
http://forums.qj.net/f-g6-flashcarts...441/page6.html

It seems like as long as these carts (any that can fit in a GBA) have a "GBA mode," they can be booted in a GBA/SP/Micro.

Anyhow, thanks for your help, you've replied really fast, I appreciate that.

Ultimately, I'll probably end up getting the G6. I don't mind how much money it is, I just want a dedicated GBA flash cart that has essentially 100% compatibility, a shape to fit in an older GBA, quick write/rewrite speed, enough room for 20+ roms, and no saving hassle.

FatsDomino Jun 12, 2007 02:22 PM

The CycloDS looks very promising. It can use MicroSDHC cards.

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=64460
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=52875&hl=
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=52950&hl=

http://www.cyclopsds.com/

JazzFlight Jun 12, 2007 03:51 PM

After all this, I decided on getting an EZFlash 3in1 expansion cart.

Sure, it doesn't work on GBA, but it's way cheap (around 20-25 bucks), so I can pretty much just play around with it without feeling like I lost a lot of money.

Also, it uses your slot-1 card as the storage medium, so with my 1-gig microsd R4, I'll have enough. I know you need to "load" games larger than 16mb onto the NORFlash (which takes about 4 minutes the first time you do it for each game, until you pick a different 32mb game you want to store on it), but there are very few 32mb games for GBA anyway. Using Rudolph's 3in1 tool, you can just load the games 16mb and smaller into PSRAM (or whatever), which takes very little time to load.

Ultimately, I feel it's the best choice. I started reading up on the G6 Lite, and there were too many reports of the thing getting corrupted or going to a white screen and needing to be re-formatted... I can't afford that when I'm away from a computer for a month, I need to be completely self-sufficient.

FatsDomino Jun 12, 2007 04:15 PM

Yeah, I was looking into the 3in1 and I didn't get the specifics but I think it pulls gba games from the slot-1 card which sounds pretty awesome. That's great for gba, rumble, and storage for opera. Am I wrong on this?

As I read more about the CycloDS the more I want one. They have really awesome customer support.

SuperSonic Jun 30, 2007 06:00 PM

I'm starting to get to the point where I want to try this stuff out myself as well on my version 1 DS. First thing I need to do is ask if this is good. G6 Real

I'm also guessing I'll need to flash my DS once I get this. What I'm looking to see is what you guys might think what the best option would be. I'm almost dead set on getting a G6 device since I've heard good things about it, but if you guys know which would be best then please share. :D

^-^ Jul 2, 2007 12:33 PM

Did anybody order through bamboogaming.com? I ordered my M3 DS Simply on Tuesday (June 26) and unfortunetly I don't know how long it could take post to send that do me.

SuperSonic Jul 4, 2007 09:08 PM

Well after reading for a bit, I saw that the G6 Real is a slot 1 device and although the storage seems nice, it doesn't support homebrew or GBA so that's out of the window.

Right now, I am calling out to all of those with fat DS's. Do you have a G6 Lite, and does it work on your fat DS? If so, does it work better than the M3? Those two keep popping up when I'm looking up Slot 2 options. What I'm looking for is possibly 100% DS and GBA compatibility (if not available, then let's just say highest compatibility), homebrew support, and good storage. It looks like the M3 supports SD cards whereas you can't do that with the G6, what the unit comes with is what you get.

Xardion Jul 5, 2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^-^ (Post 463213)
Did anybody order through bamboogaming.com? I ordered my M3 DS Simply on Tuesday (June 26) and unfortunetly I don't know how long it could take post to send that do me.

I did. It took about two weeks or so, but it got here.

^-^ Jul 5, 2007 11:22 AM

So then hypothetically, it should come next week...hmm... Thanks, Xardion.

FatsDomino Jul 5, 2007 02:34 PM

http://www.moddz.com/?n=modules/articles&a=7&d=27

Looks like CycloDS Evolution is the new king of slot-1 devices.

I trust FifthE1ement's reviews. I'll have to seriously consider getting one of these.


Also, here's some really good 2 gb kingston made in Japan to go with that.
http://www.dz-tech.com/index.php?mai...80d8ee69f23db0

Rock Jul 5, 2007 02:49 PM

Damn those microSD cards are getting cheap now. It still puzzles me how they can fit up to 2 Gigabytes on a thing as small as a thumbnail. I just recently bought a Kingston 2 GB microSD card with SD adapter for my R4DS for 15 (!) Euros (~ US$).

Now if only Sony's Memory Stick Pro Duos were a little less expensive ...

SuperSonic Jul 17, 2007 01:11 PM

Well damn. I've changed my mind and I was thinking about getting the R4 + M3 Lite package...except there's one problem: it says the M3 Lite only runs on the Nintendo DS Lite...does this mean it won't run on my fat DS?

Guru Jul 17, 2007 05:54 PM

Ok, so I really would like to pick up a flash cart to play some oldschool SNES and NES games on my DS (and maybe a few DS games that I wouldn't want to really actually pay for, hint hint).

I'm reading this thread and everyone is arguing about what's the best... I just want to get one that is easy to use and works, and isn't going to cost me much more than $100.

So, forgive me for being ignorant and not wanting to read through every ounce of discussion that's been going on in this thread.

What do I need to buy? And where's the best place to get it?

Rock Jul 17, 2007 06:30 PM

Get a R4 or M3 Simply (pretty much the same thing), it suits your needs perfectly and is incredibly easy to use. The only downside to those carts is the lack of GBA backup (SLOT-2) support.

From my personal experience, emulators and homebrew in general aren't much fun on the DS, though. If you're serious about playing oldschool SNES and NES games, you'll need to get a PSP instead.

Guru Jul 18, 2007 12:38 AM

Well, I don't intend to buy a PSP ever. So, we're getting somewhere now!

chaofan Jul 18, 2007 02:23 AM

Guru, the DS ain't really great for emulation but if it helps, I have an R4 and while NES emulation is pretty good, SNES is still inferior. You can't save for either systems, so unless you're planning to include pick-up-and-play kind of games, you might have to pick up a PSP. -_-'

I think i might have already posted this in the other Flash/Passme thread but anyways I'm looking for a Slot-2 that'll complement my R4 nicely. I've read the thread but I'm still unsure about what to choose. This is for a DS Phat and a GB Micro. What features would I like?

-Size of a normal GBA cart
-GBA gaming
-Decent homebrew support
-Decent memory to fit a few GBA games, a few homebrews and perhaps some mp3's (built-in or SD card, doesn't matter)
-Decent enough emulation
-Doubling as rumble/RAM expansion is nice, but not necessary
-Relatively cheap compared to other Slot 2 cats.

I would also like to be able to use it for a GBMicro, a present given to me last year and one which I haven't been using much. The guilt. THE GUILT!

mortis Jul 18, 2007 05:10 AM

Well Guru, there is always the GP2X for your NES/SNES needs. Albeit, it's a different system, but fairly versatile, and even been able to play SOME PSX games (albeit slowly right now).

Buizel Jul 18, 2007 05:53 AM

BTW there's a "phat" GBA size of 3in1 EZflash expansion pack now. Of course you still need a slot-1 cart to "write" in GBA game (from EZflash V itself or R4/M3 Simply/DSLink) via Rudolph's 3in1 Expansion Pack tool 1.9. If you write the game in NOR, you can just use that expansion pack and play it on your regular/SP/microGBA or on the GCN's GameBoy Player.

Guru Jul 19, 2007 02:33 PM

SO if you can't emulate well on the DS, then what is all this homebrew stuff for? What do you guys do with it? Please tell me you don't only play Cave Story.

FatsDomino Jul 19, 2007 03:12 PM

You can play fucking Monkey Island on it.


Also, you guys aren't talking enough about the CycloDS Evolution.

Rock Jul 20, 2007 08:02 AM

OK, so what does the CycloDS Evolution do what my R4 doesn't already?

Elixir Jul 20, 2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 465714)
http://www.moddz.com/?n=modules/articles&a=7&d=27

Looks like CycloDS Evolution is the new king of slot-1 devices.

I don't want to register just to find out what CycloDS is. :(

Dhsu Jul 20, 2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaofan (Post 473818)
-Size of a normal GBA cart
-GBA gaming
-Decent homebrew support
-Decent memory to fit a few GBA games, a few homebrews and perhaps some mp3's (built-in or SD card, doesn't matter)
-Decent enough emulation
-Doubling as rumble/RAM expansion is nice, but not necessary
-Relatively cheap compared to other Slot 2 cats.

I would also like to be able to use it for a GBMicro, a present given to me last year and one which I haven't been using much. The guilt. THE GUILT!

I think this is what a lot of people want, since my criteria is almost exactly the same, and JazzFlight posted a very similar list earlier. In fact, I'm posting this comparison almost as much for myself as for other people. ;) As far as I can tell, these are your best options (in order of cheapness):

EZFlash V 3-in-1 Expansion Pack (phat version)
If you want rumble *and* GBA support, this is pretty much the only way to go. The memory expansion is a nice plus. And you can't beat the price at ~$25. The downsides are that according to these people GBA compatibility is apparently not as good due to lack of RTC support, and you need to patch the GBA ROMs. I don't know if they fixed this for the phat version or not. In addition, you can load only one game at a time, but if it's 128 Mbits or less, it doesn't take too long. Also, this is not a standard Slot-2 solution, as it loads the data from your Slot-1 card, meaning of course that you need a Slot-1 card as well. However, Slot-2 carts often cost $70 by themselves (the worthwhile ones at least) not counting the PassMe device, while getting a Slot-1 plus this expansion shouldn't run you over $75.

Pros:
- Rumble and memory expansion
- $25
Cons:
- GBA compatibility isn't as good.
- Only one game at a time

M3 Lite Professional
I actually don't recommend this one since it barely qualifies as having GBA support, but I thought I'd include it for completion. It's about $40 and you can only load games that are 32 MBits (that's 4 MB) or less. A few people claim you can get around this using GBATool, but I've never seen an example of somebody actually doing it.

Pros:
- $40
Cons:
- Can't play GBA games that are over 4 MB (i.e. most of them :P)

G6 Lite
Technically this is the most expensive of the Slot-2 carts, but it comes with its own media and reader/writer, so that's about $20-30 saved right there. Yeah, it's only 512MB, but unless you're storing music and movies or something, it should be enough. However, apparently some people have problems with it getting corrupted and needing a reformat, so that's something to keep in mind. Also, I've read you can't update the emulators that come on the cart. :(

Pros:
- Built-in storage; don't need to buy media/reader
Cons:
- "Only" 512MB of space
- Might get corrupted and need reformat
- Can't update the built-in emulators :(

M3 miniSD Perfect
This is the one I was eyeing for quite a while, since it's more or less the size of a GBA cart. As the name implies, it uses miniSD cards instead of microSD. If that's an issue, there miniSD adapters for microSD cards. I've seen various prices on this cart, ranging from $60-80. But in general it should be functionally equivalent to...

M3 Lite Perfect
Now before someone gets on my case about the M3 Lite not fitting in a regular GBA, you can buy a GBA shell for $2. The shell is actually included at some places like GameYeeeah and BambooGaming. So that solves that matter. And with that out of the way, the M3 Lite has pretty much the best reviews that I've seen...the end/be all of Slot-2's as it were. Unfortunately, at $70, along with getting a PassMe and microSD card, this baby will easily run you over $100 total after it's all said and done. Unless of course you don't need DS support, in which case you can skip the PassMe and use it as a standalone GBA cart.

Pros:
- End/be all of Slot-2's
Cons:
- (Might) need to buy GBA shell
- $70

Edit: In your specific case, chaofan, the R4 will function nicely as either the Slot-1 storage for an EZ Flash V 3-in-1, or as a PassMe for the other carts.

RacinReaver Aug 21, 2007 03:13 PM

Has anyone tried out the EZ-Flash 5 Bundle?

http://www.kickgaming.com/ezflash-bu...ion-p-190.html

It looks like it's a pretty good price, takes a microSD card in slot 1 and has the memory expansion, rumble, and other random stuff for slot 2.

Edit: Or, since it seems everyone's got a R4, why should I get one of those over this one? Or, even then, why this new Cyclo chip that Acer talked about?

Also, where would you guys recommend buying something like this from? The last time I bought anything like this was my Pro Action Replay for my PSX which plugged into the I/O port so I could play burned games and back then the best place was e-bay.

Elixir Aug 22, 2007 07:30 AM

I would recommend buying them from the sites which I've recommended buying them from in the original post.

Sakabadger Aug 22, 2007 07:39 AM

In addition to the ones you listed in the topic post, I'll also toss out Winsunx as a vendor. I got my EZIV from there (and know some other folks who placed orders with them) and the response is generally pretty positive.

RacinReaver Aug 23, 2007 10:38 AM

So I'm going to buy the CycloEvolution thing from Real Hot Stuff in a few days (moving out of my apartment in a week, so I don't want the shipping to get screwed up). Going to buy it instead of the R4 since it's only $13 and the stuff I've been reading seems to be pretty positive about it. Was anyone able to find a much better deal than $20 for a 1GB microSD card? That's all I'd pay to have one included with my order, so I figure I'll just do that too.

Rock Aug 23, 2007 11:14 AM

$20 for a 1GB microSD is far too expensive. You should be able to find 2GB ones for about the same price.

RacinReaver Aug 23, 2007 04:20 PM

God damnit, pretty much everyone's sold out of R4s and the CycloEvolutions. Guess I'll just buy that cheapish microSD card I saw on buy.com earlier and wait for one of those guys to come in stock somewhere. =\

Elixir Aug 23, 2007 07:26 PM

Alternatively, Supercard One and M3 Simply are practically the same thing.

In fact, M3 Simply and R4 are 99.0% identical. Aside from needing different firmware for the Supercard One, it operates the same.

FatsDomino Aug 23, 2007 10:00 PM

:rr: do tell me how you like your cyclodsevolution. The dev team is super responsive to requests and bugs compared to the rest of the flashcard guys. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I've heard nothing but good things and most say it's the best card out there

For the rest of you I found a nice public thread on it.

http://www.emuboards.com/invision/lo...hp/t28740.html

And of course you can always go to the official website and take a look at things.

http://www.cyclopsds.com/cgi-bin/cyclods/engine.pl

Rock Aug 24, 2007 06:55 AM

As long as they have DLDI auto-patching and regular firmware updates, any flashcard is fine.

How does the CycloDS user interface look like, btw? For some reason, the official site doesn't seem to have pictures.

Bigblah Aug 24, 2007 08:06 AM

Check Acer's link on emuboards, they have screenshots of the user interface. Looks really clean and functional. I'm tempted :gonk:

And the CycloDS is apparently the only card that supports the newer SD format which allows you to go above the 2GB limitation.

RacinReaver Aug 24, 2007 11:38 AM

Well, I see it's in stock at Divineo, but it'll wind up costing me $15-20 more than if I wait for it to come back in at Real Hot Stuff (plus I can get it shipped via DHL which I trust more than random air mail). I'd also rather not buy from somewhere that has a broken English website, so I'm going to hold off until I can find a reseller in Canada. Anyone have any sort of idea how long it takes for these sites to restock their inventory usually?

^-^ Aug 24, 2007 03:27 PM

80 years.

No seriously, it can take from one to two weeks to 2-3 months dude.

Golfdish from Hell Aug 24, 2007 08:40 PM

So...For someone just getting into this and interested in commercial ROMs and emulators...

I would need to buy the CycloDS + one of these things (MicroSD): http://www.memorybits.co.uk/index.ph...sort=2a&page=2

And I'm good to go from Slot 1? No issues booting GBA games or emulators?

Sorry, but this is one of those thing where there's TOO much information out there, so I'm just looking for a straight yes/no. The Cyclo review sounds good for a total newb at DS homebrew, but it's not clear you also need the SD card as well.

Thanks.

Sakabadger Aug 24, 2007 09:01 PM

1) All flash carts require a micro SD card. That's the only way the DS has any information to read and the only way to transfer info from your PC to DS.

2) Playing GBA games requires a slot-2 flash cart, no exceptions. You can probably use any slot-2 flash cart in conjunction with the CycloDS, but you can't use just the slot-1.

Golfdish from Hell Aug 24, 2007 09:08 PM

Thanks!

Two more questions:

1. Both Commercial ROMs and emulation (any system) are fine for Slot 1? I keep seeing discrepencies about these (probably outdated information, since it seems Slot 1 devices are new) so I'm just trying to make sure it will have what I need.

2. Good price for an SD above 2 GB? I'm looking at around $35 for 2 GB from the major retailers right now...This market is totally foreign territory to me, but I just know I want as much storage as possible.

Last thing: Is there a good website for DS emulator reviews? I'm not finding much on any of them...

Sakabadger Aug 24, 2007 09:59 PM

1. Slot-1 and slot-2 will both play commercial roms, but I admit I don't really know anything about emulation -- sorry!

2. Once again, I'm stuck. Sorry! Only thing I can really say is that certain brands are generally perceived as being better- namely, the Japanese Kingston ones. 'Course, you may have to pay a premium for those depending on where you make your purchase.

3. GBAtemp has a good amount of reviews and other information on their forums, but you'll need to register to be able to get the most out of it.

RacinReaver Aug 25, 2007 11:47 AM

I found 2GB of microSD for $25 shipped on buy.com, so you might want to do that.

Also, check resellerratings.com for any of the websites you're planning on buying a chip from. A number of ones I've read about had really low marks (3 or 4 out of 10) while others will have over a 9/10 with a ton of reviews.

^-^ Aug 25, 2007 12:17 PM

1GB MicroSD on newegg for $8. Two 1GB MicroSD for $19 shipped.

chato Aug 25, 2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 494867)
I found 2GB of microSD for $25 shipped on buy.com, so you might want to do that.

Also, check resellerratings.com for any of the websites you're planning on buying a chip from. A number of ones I've read about had really low marks (3 or 4 out of 10) while others will have over a 9/10 with a ton of reviews.

Is this what you're talking about ?

http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-usb...204737106.html

EDIT : Nevermind... It's sold out. Lucky You, Reaver >=/.

I just ordered CycloDS cause I read in this thread that R4 only goes up to 2 gigs and Cyclo is somewhat limitless. Bout time I see what all the commotion is going on in here..

RacinReaver Aug 25, 2007 05:49 PM

Where'd you get the CycloDS from?

chato Aug 25, 2007 06:41 PM

http://www.modchipcentral.com/store/...hp?productid=5


Well it said that it was out of stock but now its back. It's about 51 bucks plus shipping which adds up to 60-something bucks. Didn't want to take any chances so it's whatever.

RacinReaver Aug 25, 2007 08:25 PM

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/ModChipStore

3.82 rating out of 10 with 70 reviews in the past 6 months. Hope you have better luck than everyone else that seems to be ordering from there. =/

chato Aug 26, 2007 08:46 AM

ahh shit.. Lots of haters there. Well I'll tell you one thing, they sure as hell accept money very quickly during a transaction. Doesn't matter as long as I'm still getting it. Usually new customers get their shit asap.

Btw, does the cyclods have the feature where you can raise the volume a little higher?

Golfdish from Hell Aug 26, 2007 10:00 AM

http://www.cyclopsds.com/cgi-bin/cyc...age=wheretobuy

One other thing: Modchipstore isn't listed among the retailers on the CycloDS site. Good luck is right...I'm going to wait a little bit to see if I can snag one from one of the onsite retailers.

Thanks for all the help!

Hmm, I just looked at divineo.com and fusion-consoles.com and it looks like they both have it instock (or at least shipping in 3 days).

RacinReaver Aug 26, 2007 03:31 PM

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Divineo

4.01/10 though recently it's been a little higher. =\/

RacinReaver Aug 28, 2007 04:58 PM

I sent an e-mail to the guys at RealHotStuff asking when they were getting their new shipment of CycloDS chips in, and within three hours they sent back saying they were told it would arrive next week (in non-broken English, too!). No mention if they're going to be black or not, though (I'm holding out since I'm not going to have a lot of time to play for the next two or three weeks).

Elixir Aug 28, 2007 05:14 PM

I'm pretty sure that Real Hot Stuff is located in America, and sells these kinds of things. Much like, Kick Trading who are in Canada. They sell a decent amount of stuff as well. I guess it's a sensible idea to order from your own country, since shipping will take less.

I haven't heard much about this CycloDS thing, though. Strangely enough, I have a Supercard One. I don't know why. I just do. The spring loader is really nice and it fits the micro SD card properly. I was able to transfer all data between cards providing I included the firmware for the Supercard One.

Divineo seems to have multiple branches, which is nice. I'll stick to bamboogaming for any future purchases, since I've dealt with them before and I believe they're reliable. Although their site indicates that they're in Australia, clearly they aren't. :(

chato Aug 29, 2007 05:38 PM

wtf....


@ Racin Reaver : Well I checked the tracking and according to them, it's going to come to my doorstep on the 6th of September (All the way from Canada... ). The day classes starts. go figure >.>...

RacinReaver Aug 31, 2007 12:45 PM

Just bought the CycloDS from KickGaming since I didn't want to wait the extra month for a black card (and my mom seemed interested in getting one of these for her DS, so maybe I'll give her my white one for her pink DS and I'll get a black one for myself once Christmas rolls around).

Also picked up a cheap 2GB microSD card off of amazon, and hopefully they'll arrive around the same time.

FatsDomino Aug 31, 2007 01:53 PM

Do tell us how long it takes them to get it to you. These modstores all seem rather shakey at best.

and lol ur mom being a pirate makes me lol, :rr:

RacinReaver Aug 31, 2007 04:03 PM

I had e-mailed their support a few days ago and they replied back within an hour, so that was a good sign. They used to be called "Kick Trading" which returned pretty favorable comments, and I coughed up the extra $5 for expedited shipping (ALL THE WAY FROM CANADA) to be sure it would get to me before I flew across the country forever. Also, it only took an hour and a half from my ordering the stuff and getting my confirmation e-mail to them sending me an e-mail saying that the order had been "Processed". Since they didn't tell me it shipped today I probably missed their postal pickup, but I'm hoping on Monday and it getting to me on Friday or earlier (as it should with 3-5 day shipping).

But, yeah, I totally agree that 99% of these places seem really shady. I really can't believe how many people put preorders down on stuff that costs so much money when you don't even know if the store actually exists. Other plus for the couple of stores in Canada is they tend to take American Express which is A++++++++ on customer service and getting your money back if the retailer tries to cheat you out of it.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 5, 2007 12:46 AM

My Cyclo's on the way from mod-chip.com. $70 w/shipping, then $15 for a USB SD/microSD reader (the one that comes with the Cyclo can ruin cards from what I read) and $35 for a PNY 2GB card (supposedly, one of the better makes, plus I got it right at Best Buy).

But NES and commercial DS ROM's (among other stuff) on a DS? Priceless.

RacinReaver Sep 6, 2007 07:37 PM

Well, CanadaPost sucks ass. It shipped Friday with "3-5 Day Shipping" and it's not scheduled to arrive until next Monday. They gave me confirmation it was shipped on Friday (they updated the webpage on Tuesday to tell me this), and it just reached the US border today. :angry:

Also, the place I bought the microSD card from accidentally shipped me a 1GB card instead of a 2GB one, so I have to ship the 1GB back to them so they'll send me the 2GB one (at least they replied in one day about the problem). I'm just hoping that it'll get here by next Friday because I'm moving across the country next Saturday. :argh:

Bigblah Sep 6, 2007 09:41 PM

Are microSD cards so expensive at stores that you can't just go out and grab one? :(

FatsDomino Sep 7, 2007 04:04 PM

Depends on the store you go to but there are some better microSD cards that some people should look out for depending on the flash card they buy in order to get good performance out of certain games. As far as I know the CycloDS Evolution doesn't have that issue as much as the others do.

chato Sep 7, 2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 500294)
Well, CanadaPost sucks ass. It shipped Friday with "3-5 Day Shipping" and it's not scheduled to arrive until next Monday. They gave me confirmation it was shipped on Friday (they updated the webpage on Tuesday to tell me this), and it just reached the US border today. :angry:

Also, the place I bought the microSD card from accidentally shipped me a 1GB card instead of a 2GB one, so I have to ship the 1GB back to them so they'll send me the 2GB one (at least they replied in one day about the problem). I'm just hoping that it'll get here by next Friday because I'm moving across the country next Saturday. :argh:


Hey, it said mine reached town according to the zip code on the 1st saying "item out for delivery".. Then it said something about coming in on the 6th. Obviously nothing yet and not even today. I'm hoping for tomorrow and if nothing comes in. Time to give a call to these...guys.

Golfdish from Hell Sep 8, 2007 08:57 PM

Well, I can definitely vouch for the CycloDS...The thing is 100% idiot proof. Within an hour of getting it today and hooking up, I was good to go with the basic files from the CycloDS site (firmware and Moonshell) and a copy of NesDS and both my DS and NES ROM's. And most of the time was waiting for the Rom's to unzip. Impressive, considering I expected to hit a few roadblocks. Straight up Megaman 2 on the DS (You just open NesDS and browse to the directory with the NES ROM's). Going to try some more exotic emulators and stuff now, plus music/video.

ONLY caveat: I bought a USB microSD reader and it won't read the card again (it asks me to insert a disc into the removable drive...It worked the first time I used it). BUT, the supposedly shitty one that comes with the CycloDS works wonderfully. At least for now. So, trial and error goes a long way. Also, the microSD is a bitch to get out of the Cyclo...I tryed to avoid prying it, but I didn't have a choice. Thankfully, the card is pretty durable despite the size and it worked in the unit again after I re-inserted it.

Thanks for the great leads everyone! It's definitely some awesome shit!

jb1234 Sep 8, 2007 09:22 PM

Quote:

Also, the microSD is a bitch to get out of the Cyclo...I tryed to avoid prying it, but I didn't have a choice. Thankfully, the card is pretty durable despite the size and it worked in the unit again after I re-inserted it.
I also got mine very recently and at least on this point, it gets easier. ;) You just need good fingernails. I love being able to play NES games on the go. Too bad the SNES emulation is still pretty iffy.

RacinReaver Sep 10, 2007 03:30 PM

Well, CanadaPost said my thing should arrive today but it didn't. :( It's only been a few days over a week, but it was supposed to be 3-5 day shipping and I'm pretty much just going :mad: now even though I don't have a microSD card since I had to mail back the 1GB one to get the 2GB one and I'm praying they got it today so they'll mail it tomorrow and I'll get it before I move across the country at the end of the week. ;_;

chato Sep 10, 2007 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 501729)
Well, CanadaPost said my thing should arrive today but it didn't. :( It's only been a few days over a week, but it was supposed to be 3-5 day shipping and I'm pretty much just going :mad: now even though I don't have a microSD card since I had to mail back the 1GB one to get the 2GB one and I'm praying they got it today so they'll mail it tomorrow and I'll get it before I move across the country at the end of the week. ;_;

Well, I got mine today but the whole thing with USPS screwed the whole shit up. I called canada and they put me through them and the whole arguement started with an old guy talking shit. I put him in his place after the phone call. In other words, they said that they left a notice on the first of september and the 6th but I saw nothing . Therefore, I went to the nearby post office I go to usually and gave them the tracking number with my name and ID and they found it. So everything is settled with these mailmen fucks and I finally have the damn thing.


Luckily, I was able to get a 2gb micro sd at the Micro Center for 25 bucks =]. So uhh.. the darn thing looks awesome. I just need to know what else I can do rather than adding mp3's and DS roms.

RacinReaver Sep 10, 2007 03:52 PM

What kind of tracking number did you get? The one I got doesn't work with USPS, UPS, or FedEx and just gives nothing when I put it in google (it works at Canadapost.ca, though). =\

chato Sep 10, 2007 04:38 PM

It's supposed to work at and only on canadapost,Reav. I'm saying if you check the site again with the tracking number and if it says that the "Item is Out for Delivery" with your zip code, that means it came but no one was home and that its lying there at your nearby post office. Call canada first and they'll tell you who to call . If its USPS or UPS, call them and they'll let you know if your package came over spo that you can get it yourself without any problems (make sure you have the tracking number and write down your address and name,etc.). That's what I had to do. What made me laugh was when I got a "Final Notice" in the mail today . Where did 1 and 2 go ? ;p.

RacinReaver Sep 10, 2007 04:54 PM

The last update they gave me was "2007/09/05 International shipment has arrived in the destination country" and that was last Wednesday. I don't know how an express package can take this long when a first class envelope that had my microSD card from upstate New York made it to me in two days. =\

chato Sep 10, 2007 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 501782)
The last update they gave me was "2007/09/05 International shipment has arrived in the destination country" and that was last Wednesday. I don't know how an express package can take this long when a first class envelope that had my microSD card from upstate New York made it to me in two days. =\


I've had my past problems with USPS for a while. Im shocked it's still going on but as long as I have the item, shit is settled. Just call them and ask for its location so you can pick it up yourself. Otherwise, it's going straight back to Canada.

RacinReaver Sep 12, 2007 02:30 PM

Well, the CycloDS finally arrived yesterday night and my microSD card came in today, so I'm trying to figure out how to get all this stuff to work. I probably should have done my homework before all of it arrived, but I've hardly had any time on a computer the past two weeks and realized I have no idea what to do with the things now. :tpg:

Just need to figure it out by Saturday morning when I have my flight from Philly to LA nonstop (in addition to packing all of my worldly belongings I want to have at my new place ;_; ).

Golfdish from Hell Sep 12, 2007 08:46 PM

Racin, all you need are the bios file and Moonshell, both from the CycloDS site's "Support" section loaded onto the root of the card (well, you don't NEED Moonshell, but it opens up videos/pictures/music as an option, so you really should have it). Then just make sure the ROMs and everything are somewhere on the card, as the browser is really simple to use in finding them. I just did basic folders for everything.

Only thing I'm having issues with is the Atari 2600 emulator not finding any ROMs . Oh, and I can't finish Bad Dudes on NesDS because of a glitch on level 7. *sigh* But every commercial game I've fed the thing works beautifully. Apparently, some games work with some cards and others...not so, but no issues thus far.

Vemp Sep 23, 2007 06:51 PM

I'm planning on getting a DS with the R4..but I want to play GBA games on it too. What else should I get?

FatsDomino Sep 23, 2007 07:08 PM

You should get a separate flash cart for GBA games.

Muzza Oct 13, 2007 06:06 AM

'K I might post in this thread, why not. I use a Supercard SD and I use the official (?) Super Card program to change my roms to make them suitable to put on the card. (Gosh I explain this stuff well, don't I?)

Anyway, I've never had a problem with any single game. Until now! I downloaded Chibi-Robo the other day and load in on my Supercard SD like I would any other game and press A to play it; it loads, but then there's just a white screen. Is there any way I can fix this little annoyance? (And please, nobody reply "Buy the game"; I'm stingy for Chibi-Robo)

mortis Oct 13, 2007 10:11 AM

Try to update the firmware.

Dhsu Nov 1, 2007 10:49 AM

Well, it looks like M3 has just came out with their latest card, the M3 DS Real. By all appearances, it looks to be a not-so-subtly re-branded G6DS Real with external storage, but on second glance, it comes with some interesting expansions...

The one that stands out is, of course, the GBA Expansion cart. Like the EZFlash 3-in-1, it loads games from slot-1 storage, but has features such as real-time save and cheat support, and will run patched AND clean ROMs. And the GBA compatibility will undoubtedly be excellent, if M3 lives up to the reputation they got from the M3 Perfect.

So far I'm quite impressed with the feature set, and just might get one over a CycloDS. It's definitely a bit cheaper, but most importantly, the stock won't be delayed for 2 months. :P

FatsDomino Nov 1, 2007 11:15 AM

Ah, so it finally came out. Seems to be matching what the CycloDS has. Competition is good. Does it have save states for DS games like the CycloDS is promising (not sure if it has delivered that yet) ?

Dhsu Nov 1, 2007 11:51 AM

If I understand their terminology correctly, "real-time saves" is the same as save states, so I think the answer is yes, at least on the GBA side. I didn't check if they implemented it for DS games, as save states were never a big draw for me.

Max POWER Nov 1, 2007 07:37 PM

The M3 Real doesn't have save states for the DS games yet, and Team Cyclops has yet to deliver on that promise with the Cyclo DS as well. The M3 Real does look like a great alternative to the Cyclo for the price, but I'm still waiting to get my Cyclo. I've read up on comparisons, and although the Real seems to be able to accommodate slower micro SD brands, when it comes to the high end brands, the Cyclo still has significantly faster loading times. Furthermore, the Cyclo has proven that it plays virtually 100% of the "problem" roms out there without patching, and also supports direct download on roms which don't work with this on other carts. The compatibility of the Real is still unknown with many games, although I'm sure it'll play with most games. The real reason to get the Real is the GBA expansion, which seems to be head and shoulders above anything else that can play GBA roms.

FatsDomino Nov 1, 2007 08:38 PM

Yeah, I'd take DS rom reliability, quicker load times, and excellent customer service over GBA support. I moved on from GBA long ago and the few games for it that I would want I'd rather just buy for cheap if I found them at Gamestop or play them on my PC.

Dhsu Nov 1, 2007 09:22 PM

I'm hoping Team Cyclops will just end up adding support for the GBA Expansion (I'm assuming it's possible). That would be pretty sweet.

RacinReaver Nov 2, 2007 03:13 AM

Just have to say I'm living my CycloDS right now. Also got a 3-in-1 thing, but I haven't bothered putting any GBA games on my microSD card since I've been entertained with Picross and, umm, well, that's pretty much all the time I've had for the past two months. :(

Chaotic Dec 12, 2007 11:36 PM

Yay for thread bumpage.

Anyway, I'm asking my brother to get me a Flash Card for Christmas and I need an opinion on one.

Does anyone own a Supercard DS One? If so, how is it working for you and does it support Wi-Fi and all that other nice stuff? I just wanna make sure I'm getting the right one before I finalize the purchase.

I was also looking at the R4DS... Is that one any better?

Elixir Dec 12, 2007 11:52 PM

I have a Supercard One, and they're great, but a little slow. The R4 is better, and the M3 DS Real is even better. The difference is, the Real supports up to 8GB micro SDHC, and the others only support up to 2GB micro SD. M3 Real also supports micro SD cards.

The original post is pretty outdated. :(

Chaotic Dec 13, 2007 12:27 AM

Oooh, looking at the M3 DS Real, it is good. :3:

Well, after talking with my brother, I decided not to settle for the card since it will take some time for him to order it and all that other crap.

I'll probably get that one on my own time later, given that I get one of those Debit Gift Cards for Christmas... :|

Sucks being a teenager with restricted use on the credit card you have.
Curse being linked to my mom's account :(

And i'm such a noob with this homebrew stuff... What the hell is the GBA Expansion Pack with the M3 DS Real?

Buizel Dec 13, 2007 01:07 AM

I think the GBA Expansion Pack allow GBA game to be play (in GBA mode of course).

Also, the M3 DS Real have different Expansion Pack bundle like the rumble and RAM expansion.

You can read a review here at gbatemp.net.

RacinReaver Dec 13, 2007 06:56 PM

I bought my brother and my mom each an R4DS from realhotstuff.com. They had the best price, are located a state away, and have fantastic reviews. I opted not to get them a CycloDS like I have because I'm getting semi-random MICROSD CARD NOT FOUND errors when I haven't taken the card out since the last time I played it (and I've seen some reports of people having the same problem), so I'd be worried about it happening to them too.

Since the R4DS is currently backordered from there, would I be better off getting a M3DS Real for them? It comes with a rumble pack, which I figure they would like, for about the same price.

bahamuty Dec 16, 2007 10:34 PM

So you have to reinsert the MicroSD card before you turn on your DS the next time or you'll get that message? Is that something they can fix thru firmware or is it a faulty Cyclone? Also might it be a bad MicroSD card?


I eventually want to get a card but I'm not sure which one. Are there more problems with Cyclone than the R4? I still need to read about the M3 DS Real but their website is down, they ran out of bandwidth.

FatsDomino Dec 16, 2007 11:41 PM

Some of the earlier Cyclones had dead on arrival or failures at a later time. However, with the third batch it would seem the failure rate has gone down. I wouldn't worry about that issue when buying a Cyclo now.

RR, you should go talk to Team Cyclops about your problem.

Dhsu Dec 17, 2007 12:27 PM

I ended up paying the extra for a CycloDS because they actually have something resembling support. I've been pretty happy with it...so far my only complaints are cosmetic. Using a sticker to cover the chip is pretty ghetto, and the lack of a spring-loaded memory slot is kind of annoying. But functionality-wise, you can't really ask for more from a slot-1 cart. Combined with the EZFlash 3-in-1, it'll make your wildest dreams come true fulfill all your DS/GBA needs.

RacinReaver Dec 18, 2007 10:59 PM

Acer, it's only been a pretty intermittent problem so far, so I'm not actually worried about it right now. I'm also stuck at home with no consoles or PC, so the DS is my only entertainment other than the books I got at the library today. If I keep having the problem over the next few weeks then I'll drop them a line when I get back to school.

Syndrome Jan 1, 2008 10:57 AM

I don't know if this talk is allowed, but I can't seem to get Hotel Dusk: Room 215 to work on my M3 DS Simply. I've tried both the American and European versions, but they both freeze somewhere in the opening cut scene. Any ideas?

I have the latest M3 DS Simply firmware.

RacinReaver Jan 1, 2008 01:10 PM

Oh, for anyone else that has a CycloDS they just released a patch the other day that supports real-time saves. Apparently it's not quite done since there's still a number of glitches, but in the readme for the update they actually talk about what they're doing, how they're doing it, and what the current problems are (in clear English!).

It also seems to have fixed my problem with it not starting up properly so far, too.

bahamuty Jan 2, 2008 05:13 AM

Syndrome, try skipping the problematic cutscene if it's possible. You might be able to play the rest of the game.

RacinReaver, They're the first ones to offer real time saves right?
TeamCyclops seems to be good fixing problems with games and offering features.
So I'll probably go with the Evolution in the end.

There's lots of nice skins for various cards here: NDSthemes

Elixir Jan 2, 2008 06:12 AM

Powder 0.92 - Roguelike

Another quick release as I try to keep the momentum going to the elusive version 100.

* When you are prompted to cast a spell you cam hit [SELECT] or [i] or [?] to get help on that spell. (Arthur Littlefield)
* Eating a book temporarily grants you the spells/skills in the book. (Fancy Carrot)
* Gold Beetles are now hostile if you are wearing anything they want.
* If timed unchanging expires the same turn as stoning takes effect, there is no longer the risk that the unchanging will expire first and thus turn you to stone. (Yes, this happened to me.)
* All creatures will now eat if they are not full, not just special ones like gelatinous cubes.
* Hungry creatures will pick up food that they can eat.
* RNG seed saved to hiscore table so starting games on the GBA should become more varied.
* Torches and flamingswords are extinguished by dropping into water.
* More consistent behaviour of lava/greekfire/acid/water with item interaction.
* New spells: Wizard's Eye, Possess.
* Artifact armour that has a melee attack will now allow you to attack appropriately on occasion. Ie, a head butt, punch, or kick with the helmet, ring, or boots. Improvised Weapons skill will greatly increase the chance of this happening.
* One more room.


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6649/powder1zd2.png

WabbitDS - TI-83 emulator

WabbitDS is a TI-83+ Emulator. It features:

* ROM8xu loading
* RewindingFast Forwarding
* Rotatable Interface (ie portrait mode)
* Touchscreen Interface
* Disassembler
* Key Configuration
* Sleep Mode
* Fast Application Loading
* Perfect Gray Scale for Gaming

Source is included. Please give me Feed back on any issue you think there may be.


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4213/wabbit1iu1.jpghttp://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7326/wabbit2ku4.jpg


Bunjallo 0.4 beta 1 - Web Browser

Changes from version 0.3.6 to 0.4-beta1:

Major changes
* Basic image support added
* gzip content-encoding supported
* Cache files to flash card (mostly optional - see config.ini)

Minor changes
* issue 32 - file that defines allowed cookies can now contain http:// at the start
* Plain text rendering semi works again (no font changes though)
* Unicode shrunk to 16 bits internally to use less memory
* !URIs with spaces are escaped to use "%20"
* libnds-20071023 compatibility changes

Build changes
* Build with devkitArm r21
* Changed to scons build system[/sub]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2...loods41bu3.png

Protein DScratch (Universal build) 071111 - audio sample manipulator

v071111:
# a file browser
# a sample recorder
# a live mic streaming mode
# "Retrig FX" has been rewritten to be synchronized to loop length and current pitch
# some display enhancements, new pretty colors :-p
# motion-controlled pitch tremolo
# 3 cool default samples (cf credits)
# now works fine on R4/M3

Known Issues:
# sample.wav is still limited to ~1MBytes
# file browser has only 24 entries for the moment
# maybe some cracklings in live mic streaming or sample recordings on some linkers (let me know)
# scratching can be a lot better, and will be in the future ;-)


YouTube - Protein DScratch - 2 - by Gorgull

DsKara v1.0 - karaoke viewer

you now have a single interface (Rom now weighs less than 200kb), which manages the karaokes. At the root of your memory card, you create a folder / DsKara / containing the songs. Raw and files in karaokes. The files must have the same name (for example, if you have a song.dsk get an song.raw, one for the karaoke, another for music)

Changelog:
- Lightweight changes on the skin
- Adding an interface to select the song
- Stop karaoke (which leads back to the choice of the song) with the B key
- Support external files. Dsk for karaoke. Raw for the song


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6981/dskara2fz3.png

Woctochat v0.2 alpha - Online Pictochat clone

Who has never dream of a pictochat that instead of using the Nifi used instead the WFC, huh? Yes you at the bottom.
That your dreams become reality with a Woctochat!
It allows you to create a server on your PC and then log in with your DS on it to talk with your friends who also connected on the same server.


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3329/screen02vi4.png

Tabbed 0.16 - guitar tab viewer

Another week, another version. There are actually a few more bits and bobs I wanted to fit into this version, nameley background and font loading off SD, but I got a flash of brilliance yesterday and decided to add and entirely new feature. I figured it would take me a week or so to get it working how I wanted it to, so I better release a new version now.

So what have we got then? I’ve fixed a bug or two, making sure right handed now default. I’ve vastly improved the file navigation with the inclusion of a handy dandy selected file bar, this also works in the options menu so you can see what your current settings are. I’ve also improved the edit screen a bit so you can now scroll up and down the document, it’s still not prefect, but until saving is working it doesn’t really need to be. The big new improvement is the MOD player I’ve thrown in, this is kind of a precursor to the MP3 player which will turn up one day, I added it so people can jam along to MOD drum loops, of which there doesn’t seem to be many :_( if you find any then give me a shout. Anyway, look out for big things next version. Laters.


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1723/tabbed2wq3.jpg

PuzzleManiak 3.2.5 - Puzzle Game Collection

Quick update of the version 3.2 to change the option “Display wifi scores” by an “Autoconnect to Wifi” option. If you check this option, PuzzleManiak won’t ask you whether you want to connect to wifi or not (when needed), it’ll connect itself.

That’s all for this version!!!


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7...akintrouw7.gif





Jetfighter 0.4b - 2-player simultaneous competitive shooter

It was promised, a new version of Jetfighter recoded with Palib.

Controls:
- A, B, X, Y moves player 2 and R button shoots.
- D-Pad moves player 1 and L button shoots.

News:
- Management of the bar life.
- Collision and explosion.
- Score.
The jets were undergoing changes just to launch a laser at the same time.


http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6...ighter1ns4.png

Platdude's Retro Collection 12 - classic games remade

The Brief
A collection of retro styled games, kicked up a notch.
Gameplay>Graphics

The Notice
DLDI Patch the _dldi.nds version to keep your highscores. There are no other differences between the two versions.


The Games


Centipede

Blast away all the approaching Centipede bits. Every piece that escapes from play removes 25 of your hard earned points.
Rated 4/5

Snake

Guide the Snake towards the numbered blocks. Pick up the number of points displayed on the Block. If it reaches 0, the block becomes a solid brick. Try not to crash.
Rated 3/5

Invaders

Destroy all the Alien Invaders before they reach the bottom of the screen. No bases to hide with and plenty of enemy gunfire makes this a super-rapid version of Invaders. A fan favourite.
Rating 5/5

Light Cycles

Guide your way away from the enemy lines in a rather basic remake of the classic Tron game.
Rating 3/5

Asteroids

Shoot all the floating Asteroids for whatever reason there ever was for doing it in any other version of the game! Asteroids is fun!
Rating 4/5

Racer

This game sucks, and has since been hidden away like some kind of rubbish Easter Egg..
Rating 1/5

Escape

Grab the blue square and keep it away from the red ones. Pick up Green ones for extra points.
Rating 4/5 : Windows version by Magicman

Missile Command

Destroy the approaching missiles, before they destroy your bases! Every missile that hits the land takes away a point!.. The Green ones are worth extra.
Rating 4/5

Dot Pop

With 30 seconds on the clock, hit as many squares as you can.
Will probably be renamed by the time you play it! Then again, maybe not!
Rating 4/5

Pacman

With two full screens of pills to empty, and eight ghosts running around, you?d better get moving. (Strangely, it?s not as much fun as it oughta be..)
Rating 3/5

Frogger

No river, just 2 huge busy roads to pass. The top lot move faster, so you?re gonna have to be quick to score any points. Get to the top and start again, but with more cars.
Rating 5/5

Pong

Just you, a CPU, and a ball too. And another ball if you play on High.. .. And 3 on Extreme.
Rating 3/5

Tetris

Much requested, and so eventually added. This game tries to be a Good Tetris game, and hopefully you?ll enjoy it. I might add Bombliss later, since I really love that game, too!
Rating 4/5


http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6866/col003qg2.png http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5135/col008ec1.png

DotaDS v 0.93 alpha - Warcraft Tower Defence clone

- 0.91: Record version
- 0.91b: path to plant less
- 0.92: patch of moveToAttack
- 0.93: Now you can kill the turrets and creeps attack automatically.


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7228/dotads2br8.png

Sudoku v1.0 - Another Sudoku implementation

This is the first release of my version of Sudoku for the DS.

Features:
-Two generation options: random or seeded
-Quick puzzle generation (about a tenth of a second)
-Checker
-Corrector (can be turned on or off)
-Timer (can be turned on or off)
-Scoring system (can be turned on or off)
-Shows possibilities for current cell based on numbers you have already input in the puzzle (can be turned on or off)
-Select the number of givens
-Can use freebies if needed
-Choose from several backgrounds
-Choose from different music
-Nice touch-screen support

Known issues:
-On occasion, the program will freeze while trying to generate a puzzle. This happens, however, very rarely. Seeded puzzle #10 cause the program to freeze.
-The sound file for "Crossbones" is a little fuzzy due to several files conversions and compression. I'm planning on rerecording this file to improve sound quality.

Let me know what you think or if there are any bugs or improvements I could make

You can find more screens on my myspace page and eventually I will have a link there for updated versions.


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1417/sudoku2tr1.jpg

First Strike - vertical scrolling shooter tech demo

Y - fire
B - bomb

The game is not finish yet. May occur some bugs...
I hope you guys like it!

Works great on R4 and no$gba.


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1...strike2el2.jpg

pokeyDS 1.1 - Atari 800XL emulator

Small update because it seems that the joystick was a worry in the previous version ... Sorry ...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2...dsv0103sj4.png

CrocoDS 2.0 - Amstrad CPC Emulator

- Save-states (load, read & erase).
- New design. (thanks to kukulcan)
- Bugfixes with the autostart.
- Beter support of the copy, shift, control and caps-lock keys.
- Single / multi-keys pressed for activate cheat code.
- Minor update in the Z80 emulation.
- Bugfixes in the timing of the sound module. (thanks to Alekmaul)
- All options are now available via icons.
- Screen capture (you need sna2png to convert the snapshot to bitmap)
- Speed limitator. (crocods is sometimes too fast)


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4...screen2py2.jpg


:dovel:

RacinReaver Jan 2, 2008 03:51 PM

Does that TI-83 emulator actually have full calculator functionality? That might actually be useful for when I forget my calculator in my office and am working on homework at home.

trackjacket Jan 3, 2008 07:24 PM

So, wow, there's a StarCraft DS homebrew port in the works. Two French guys are in the process of bringing the title to the DS, under the name "StarLite". It's only been in development for three weeks, but there's already a playable demo available here.

DS Fanboy's summary:
Quote:

...it's clear there's still a lot of work ahead for the project, it's impressive how much the two-man crew has already accomplished in just three weeks of development. So far, players can select and direct units via touchscreen, build simple structures, and produce additional units. There are even a few enemy troops to attack.

The team plans to continue their work, eventually implementing the rest of the units/structures and a WiFi ad-hoc multiplayer mode for two players.
Sounds impressive! Hopefully they continue to work on it, I'd really like to see this come to fruition.

Demo:
http://heuer-michael.com/starlite/starlite.nds

Pics:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ds...01/image15.gif

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ds...01/image17.gif

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ds...01/image23.gif

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ds...01/image22.gif

Lucca Jan 9, 2008 07:31 PM

Hey folks. :)

I'm a newbie at this whole flashcard thing, but I had a friend visit recently who had an EZ flash V (I think it was called that) and it looked awesome. I'm thinking of picking up something similar.

Question is: which card is the best choice for someone who is a newbie at this but is a quick learner? I'd love to have a card that's essentially plug n'play (requires little to no setup and drag and drop capability). I'd rather not flash my DS either, since the idea of bricking my system is not appealing.

I've seen the EZ flash V (looks okay, but I heard there's better choices now) RS4 (supposedly great but has no GBA support), and M3 Real (looks wonderful, but I am unsure how GBA support works). Can anyone give me some suggestions? Thanks!

FatsDomino Jan 9, 2008 08:21 PM

@Lucca

You could, you know, read this thread. That'd certainly help. Anyway get a CycloDS Evolution and maybe one of those 3 in 1 things for GBA, RAM, and rumble (perhaps an EZ Flash 3-in-1). Go hit up Google and a bunch of the links in this thread for research. Read, damn it. My suggestions are probably the best but seriously go gather some knowledge. Oh yeah a 1 or 2 GB micro-SD cards would be a must too. You'll eventually bump into some info on that if you do this research business right. Now move out, soldier!

Chaotic Jan 10, 2008 01:19 AM

Damn, so I guess this is a bad time for me to ask if I should get a M3 DS Real or a CycloDS Evolution?

It's finally almost time for me to purchase one, but I still can't decide which of the two I want. And I want to nab one on RealHotStuff when one of the two gets back in stock.

Elixir Jan 10, 2008 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucca (Post 564973)
but is a quick learner? I'd love to have a card that's essentially plug n'play (requires little to no setup and drag and drop capability). I'd rather not flash my DS either, since the idea of bricking my system is not appealing

Quick learner? Awesome! Read the thread and you might learn something.

I love people who just hop into the thread and basically say "the thread's too long, despite it being made to help me. I can't really be bothered to read it at all, nor can I decide for myself, so just tell me what to buy and where to buy it from because I'm a retarded lazy ass."

You're most likely pirating DS games I mean jesus fucking christ unless you want karma to bite you in the ass you could at least know what you're getting into before getting into it.

Lucca Jan 10, 2008 08:39 PM

Actually I DID read the thread, read reviews and hey, I did google, but seriously, if you're going to jerks to everyone who is relatively new to the scene, why bother having threads at all? I wanted opinions and instead I get beat on my chest lol newbie drama.


Forget I asked.

FatsDomino Jan 10, 2008 08:42 PM

Excuse me, I both gave you my recommendation and advice. Don't wanna take it? Fine by me but it's pretty fucking sound and I think you a fool not to listen. Enjoy the Internet.

Chaotic, go for the CycloDS Evolution.

Chaotic Jan 10, 2008 09:00 PM

Awesome. I'm gonna watch for it on the 14th at RealHotStuff. :3:

FatsDomino Jan 10, 2008 09:52 PM

Nice. I might hit that up as well. Besides No More Heroes and Super Smash Bros Brawl I don't plan on getting a lot of games in the future (college eats money) so this will help bide my time while I accumulate some more funding.

Elixir Jan 10, 2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucca (Post 565537)
Actually I DID read the thread, read reviews and hey, I did google, but seriously, if you're going to jerks to everyone who is relatively new to the scene, why bother having threads at all? I wanted opinions and instead I get beat on my chest lol newbie drama.


Forget I asked.

Why even bother having threads at all? Hm, let's see. This is an internet gaming forum, and we're talking about gaming related material on the internet. It's imperative to make threads otherwise the forum will die. I didn't have to make this thread at all, but I spent three hours doing so, and it isn't until people like you come into the thread and start disregarding the entire contribution I've given that I realize that I've wasted my entire fucking time.

And yes, Acer gave you some recommendations. Why not take them? What I was getting at was, you said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucca
Question is: which card is the best choice for someone who is a newbie at this but is a quick learner?

This just comes off as "I'm new, what to buy, best item plz, where to get, thx". Sorry but I don't take lightly to people who refuse to feed themselves because they aren't being spoon fed.

Lucca Jan 10, 2008 10:45 PM

Never did I say I wasn't GREATFUL for what you did with this thread, but it's the attitude. Since I'd rather not dirty your thread any more than what's already been done, I thank Acer for his recommendation (and I never rejected it, my wording came out wrong because my last post was not AIMED AT HIM.), and call it a day.

CryHavoc Jan 16, 2008 04:54 PM

Problem with the M3 Real DS adapter
 
hey peeps

so i got this lil M3 Real slot one adapter, it won't work, i downloaded the firmware from their site put it on the mem card and it won't boot. what did i do wrong? I formatted the mem card FAT32 , and it still won't work.

Anyone try it yet? Help !

RacinReaver Jan 16, 2008 06:41 PM

I was having issues with one of the skins on my CycloDS where it would make it so the software wouldn't load. Try taking off all your games and everything and just put the software alone on your microSD.

Maybe try using a different USB card reader if possible.

bahamuty Jan 17, 2008 05:05 PM

Elixir thank you for your 3 hours.
Your gathered information helped me in my research.


For those who haven't ordered yet Real Hot Stuff has some black CycloDS in now.
Mine just got shipped today, I can't wait to try it out.

New Egg has Kingston 1GB Micro SD cards for $10 shipped.
So that's what I ordered for now. I'll have to check what 4GB
cards the CycloDS takes and get one eventually.

Anyone listen to Mp3s on their DS is the quality acceptable?

espressivo Feb 15, 2008 03:54 PM

i got a quick question, does this come with the cd and usb micro sd adapter? or just the R4 card and memory card?

R4 DS (R4DS) + Kingston Micro SD/ TF 1GB Memory Card (Japan). Gameyeeeah

Chaotic Feb 15, 2008 06:20 PM

I don't know about the CD, but as I've heard from Real Hot Stuff, since they don't pack the CD anymore, they have it available for download on their site.

As for the microSD card adapter, the SD card adapter works fine, even if you stick it into a digital camera or something. You could still drag and drop everything from there.

Syndrome Feb 15, 2008 07:15 PM

The firmware located on CD's are usually way old anyway, so downloading the latest is a safe bet. About the SD Adapter, yes, I'm pretty sure it's included.

horseman85 Apr 3, 2008 09:03 PM

Question about the slot-1 adapters. With any of these adapters, can you still go online with the DS and play against other people who don't have adapters?

Sakabadger Apr 3, 2008 11:50 PM

By adapter, you mean flash cart?

Using a flash cart (slot-1 or slot-2) is more or less the equivalent of having the actual cartridge. You get a friend code and everything, so you can play on wifi with no problems.

FatsDomino Apr 4, 2008 09:13 AM

It doesn't work with all flash carts but it does work for the CycloDS Evolution which is the cart you ought to get at this point.

Dhsu Apr 4, 2008 09:58 AM

I think the M3 DS Real is okay for people on a budget, and should be good enough for most people's needs when it comes to the essentials (compatibility, DLDI, etc.). From what I can tell, the Evolution's main advantage is in the secondary stuff...loading times, built-in support for the 3-in-1's rumble and RAM features, an actual support forum, etc. Some people also prefer the CycloDS interface.

I *almost* regret not waiting for the latest batch because it is dang sexy, but I got a lot of value out of mine while everyone was waiting for theirs.

FatsDomino Apr 4, 2008 10:29 AM

lol budget~ the thing costs about the same as a single videogame.

Dhsu Apr 4, 2008 11:03 AM

Eh, $10 is big difference for some people. It can also add up if you're getting multiple cards.

Sakabadger Apr 4, 2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 591587)
It doesn't work with all flash carts but it does work for the CycloDS Evolution which is the cart you ought to get at this point.

What models doesn't it work with? Unless it's an old/outdated model, I thought all brands had this capability.

Dhsu Apr 4, 2008 05:56 PM

FFCC: Ring of Fates deactivates after 20 minutes if it detects you are using a flashcart. R4s trigger this, but Evos don't.

Lacerta Apr 4, 2008 06:11 PM

It was a bug with the firmware, since it tries to bypass the loading screens. However the patching messed stuff up so the game would just go to the moogle screen. (Remembered it was not in the credits, it's part of the game data left behind for demo purposes)

Recent firmware changed it.

CycloDS has the advantage of almost never needing updates to get games running 100% when they are first released.

mortis Apr 4, 2008 07:01 PM

So they finally stated it was due to firmware and not something SE added? I know there was a debate on exactly what it was.

Dhsu Apr 4, 2008 07:06 PM

Yeah, from the comments it seems it's still not clear. One poster claimed that work on a un-dub patch was halted because patching the game triggered the same behavior, even on the CycloDS.

Lacerta Apr 4, 2008 07:26 PM

It was something about the carts not sending enough junk data to fool the DS. The Nintendo DS has a 4 microsecond response time to discern whether or not you are playing a real game or a rom. Some devices were unable to send enough junk data to trick the 4 microsecond response time, and some were sending it improperly, which led them to the Moogle Screen of Death.

An Action Replay code was released that fixed that problem entirely, and later an IPSPatch come out, and then finally firmware updates.

Chaotic Apr 15, 2008 02:53 AM

Thread bumpage.

So I'm considering getting a Slot-2 card so I could finally stop complaining to myself about GBA games I've never played before. Can anyone recommend a good one? I'd look at the first post but...

Lukage Apr 20, 2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotic (Post 595383)
Thread bumpage.

So I'm considering getting a Slot-2 card so I could finally stop complaining to myself about GBA games I've never played before. Can anyone recommend a good one? I'd look at the first post but...


Likewise, but for NES and SNES support as well. I'm not sure if the M3 Lite Pro is what I need, but I've got the M3 Simply....gonna try to read up on it.

Dhsu Apr 28, 2008 11:28 PM

I recommend the EZFlash 3-in-1. Carts like the eWin/M3 Real GBA expansion also work great, but from what I understand lack non-volatile memory, meaning you'll have to re-flash the ROM every time you reset the DS. Whereas with the EZFlash, you can burn a game to non-volatile NOR memory, at which point the cart acts *exactly* like a regular GBA cart, meaning you can use it for GBA-DS connectivity, and (if you get the GBA-size version) even stick it in a DS fat, GBA, or GBA Player.

I would not recommend the M3 Lite Pro, as it will not hold big games like Kingdom Hearts and Riviera. The M3 Lite Perfect will satisfy all your GBA needs, but is a bit overkill if you already have a Slot-1. Both carts are primarily for playing NDS games, for people who don't have/want a Slot-1 for whatever reason. And even then you miss out on the rumble/RAM features you'd get from the 3-in-1.

Edit: Also, while the CycloDS Evolution is still an excellent card with great support, it's not the undisputed king of Slot-1 anymore like it was less than a year ago. It's hard to go wrong with any of the current gen cards like the SuperCard DS One, Acekard RPG, M3DS Real, TTDS, etc., some of which you can find for half the price of an Evolution. Again, it comes down to secondary features like loading times, GUIs, support, etc. and which of those are important to you.

Lukage Apr 29, 2008 01:18 AM

I can't just buy the Real's Slot-2 device by itself as all they said was "hurr hurr you get both of these, fuck your Simply."

Seriously.

Dhsu Apr 29, 2008 03:26 PM

Ha, yeah, well the Real's expansions are pretty much identical to the one's made by eWin, which work with any Slot-1 with DLDI.

Vemp May 11, 2008 05:31 AM

I have an M3DS Real, and I was trying to run Colors. So since this cart has auto DLDI patching, I didn't bother patching the .nds file. But when I run it, it asks me to choose a slot, Slot 1 or Slot 2, then after choosing Slot 1, all I get is a black screen.

Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it working.

xiaowei May 16, 2008 11:57 PM

I've noticed a lot of people suggesting getting microSD cards that are made in Japan. Does it really matter that much?

Zephyrin May 17, 2008 04:14 PM

From what I've read, some of the cheaper cards like SanDisk have slower read rates than what is necessary for a DS game. The Castlevania games are the particular culprits. They will freeze up in the opening movie, and in some in game animations.

And I can believe that, even though I haven't played a ROM of the games. I have an original Portrait of Ruin, and even it gets slowdown when I pull off certain moves.
I bought the Adata 4 gig card from Newegg for $20. Best buy didn't have anything close to decent brands or decent prices, and that was the best online deal I could find.
I would've liked to pick up an 8 gig, but they cost more than the CycloDS, running about 80-90.

Annnnyways, I finally got a CycloDS. I haven't had anybody to test download play with yet, but I haven't had ANY problems playing games and online play works good.
I downloaded lameboy and ran a few games on it. Some don't work that great, but it's decent.
I like DS organize, and the IRC client it has is spunky. Too bad I don't take my DS everywhere.
Also tried out SnemulDS, and nothing seemed to work right. Has anybody had much luck with the SNES emulators?

I plan on picking up a 3-in-1 for my DS Fat soon enough, so I can play GBA games.

mortis May 17, 2008 08:45 PM

SNES emulation is still in early development at best. Very few games run well through it on an NDS. Generally, the mentality is get a PSP or GP2X if you want to go for portable emulation...

Dhsu May 18, 2008 02:23 AM

Yeah, you can get slightly better performance with the RAM expansion, but at this point it's not really worth the trouble for most games.

xiaowei May 18, 2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyrin (Post 605871)
From what I've read, some of the cheaper cards like SanDisk have slower read rates than what is necessary for a DS game. The Castlevania games are the particular culprits. They will freeze up in the opening movie, and in some in game animations.

And I can believe that, even though I haven't played a ROM of the games. I have an original Portrait of Ruin, and even it gets slowdown when I pull off certain moves.
I bought the Adata 4 gig card from Newegg for $20. Best buy didn't have anything close to decent brands or decent prices, and that was the best online deal I could find.
I would've liked to pick up an 8 gig, but they cost more than the CycloDS, running about 80-90.

Annnnyways, I finally got a CycloDS. I haven't had anybody to test download play with yet, but I haven't had ANY problems playing games and online play works good.
I downloaded lameboy and ran a few games on it. Some don't work that great, but it's decent.
I like DS organize, and the IRC client it has is spunky. Too bad I don't take my DS everywhere.
Also tried out SnemulDS, and nothing seemed to work right. Has anybody had much luck with the SNES emulators?

I plan on picking up a 3-in-1 for my DS Fat soon enough, so I can play GBA games.

Any suggestions where to buy the CycloDS?

RacinReaver May 19, 2008 08:49 PM

I bought from kickgaming.com and RealHotStuff and had positive experiences with both. Canadapost sucks major nut, though.

Lukage May 20, 2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortis (Post 605932)
SNES emulation is still in early development at best. Very few games run well through it on an NDS. Generally, the mentality is get a PSP or GP2X if you want to go for portable emulation...

I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...

Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.

mortis May 20, 2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 606808)
I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...

Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.

Just seems to be how it is. I know it is BETTER than the GBA regarding emulation but unless there have been some major break throughs (which may have happened in the last few months), it seemed that emulation was still very much in development concerning the SNES.

xiaowei May 21, 2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 606808)
I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...

Hell, the DS can't even emulate GBA games from Slot 1.

Lukage May 21, 2008 12:36 AM

Aside from, you know, Slot-2 doing that.

Dhsu May 21, 2008 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 606808)
Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.

Well you can buy the expansions separately, but I'm pretty sure they're just clones of the eWin expansions. Doesn't really matter which one you get though, Rudolph's GBA ExpLoader homebrew will work with both.

Soluzar May 21, 2008 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 606943)
Well you can buy the expansions separately, but I'm pretty sure they're just clones of the eWin expansions. Doesn't really matter which one you get though, Rudolph's GBA ExpLoader homebrew will work with both.

Do any of them have RTC support?

Dhsu May 21, 2008 07:23 AM

Unfortunately no, I believe you'll still have to patch the Pokemon games to get around that. The M3 Lite/Perfect is the only device with RTC support to my knowledge.

Sousuke Jun 17, 2008 04:37 PM

On the topic of Slot-2 devices, I'm curious about something.

First off, does the device itself hold the GBA games, or are they held on the Slot-1's memory? In the case that they're held on the slot-2, will it hold more than one at a time?

And finally, let's say I load Pokemon Emerald [for example] onto the slot-2 device, can I use it with Pokemon DP's 'Pal Park' function, or will it even read?

Also, any suggestions for devices? I'm currently looking at the M3 set with the GBA/Rumble device, and the CycloDS + EZFlash V, but I'm not sure if there's anything better out there.

^-^ Jun 17, 2008 05:05 PM

Pal Park works with Slot 1 devices in that it is successfully able to transfer the pokemon.

Dhsu Jun 17, 2008 05:55 PM

In the case of the M3DS Real and CycloDS Evo, the GBA games will be on your Slot-1, and you can put as many on it as you want (I think). The main function of a Slot-2 device is to copy a single game from your Slot-1 to its local memory and run it in GBA mode. If you want to play another game, you will have to overwrite the Slot-2 memory (saves are stored on the Slot-1 so you don't have to worry).

Most Slot-2 devices support DS-GBA connectivity, although in slightly different ways. If you get a 3-in-1, you can flash the game to non-volatile NOR memory and it will function like the original cart for any connectivity features. If you use the M3DS Real or eWin expansions, the process involves using the soft-reset feature so that the game stays in memory.

In other news, firmware 1.4 beta 3 just came out for the Evo. GBA autopatching was added, which means that you can now run clean ROMs straight from the menu without any need for 3rd party homebrew. \m/

Sousuke Jun 17, 2008 05:59 PM

Thanks for the info, Dhsu. The GBA connectivity was just what I was looking for. :3:

I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Evo. I did some reading on the different carts, and it's looking like the best one, with the new Beta firmwares they're putting out. The only downside I think would be the price, and having to buy the 3-in-1 separately. Ah well.

Infernal Monkey Jun 27, 2008 09:46 AM

hay guys how do i install crysis core to mi ds

where cn i dwnld a new touch skreen??? i broken mine 1

seed plz

I got an M3 REEEAAAAAL a little while ago, but only just started messing around with it. Holy shit. Holy shit.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...t/ewjds003.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...emgames003.jpg

Holy shit.

I'm honestly surprised at how good some of these emulators are. Especially ApprenticeMinusDS, it's almost perfect for Master System games. <3 I know PSP is the go-to portable for emulators, but I use my DS a hell of a lot more. NOW I CAN PLAY MOLE MANIA ON THE TRAIN AND BE MR. COOL.

Also, I wasn't aware that they changed the intro for Klax on GBC.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...emgames001.jpg

YOU RUINED IT, MIDWAY.

map car man words telling me to do things Jun 27, 2008 10:53 AM

NOW YOU CAN PLAY SKATE OR DIE BAD 'N RAD HOLY SHIT

Man I used to be so good at that game. That last level was freaking bullshit, though :mad:

Lukage Jun 27, 2008 03:47 PM

Great, no sites that sell standalone slot-2 devices have any in stock.

Dhsu Jun 27, 2008 04:37 PM

Do you mean standalone as in it plays DS games too? You can still get the M3 Perfect Lite at Gameyeeeah. It's possible they're just being phased out though, due to being more expensive than Slot-1 + expansion combos, without a significant amount of extra functionality.

If you're just looking for the expansion carts, RealHotStuff has the M3 DS Real GBA pack and EZFlash 3-in-1. The eWin expansions are still available at PSXBoy.

Zephyrin Jun 28, 2008 08:52 AM

I should go update my firmware for my EVO, though I don't have my Slot 2 yet. That autoloader is just another reason why EVO is the best one out there. Their support and development team actually.....CARE!

<3 Maybe now my TWEWY will stop crashing.

KyleDunamis Jun 28, 2008 09:01 AM

Is there any way to dump GBA roms with CycloDS, like there is for DS roms?

FatsDomino Jun 28, 2008 11:05 AM

Yes, the newest stable firmware v1.4 for CycloDS has support for GBA games if you get a EZFlash 3 in 1 cartridge (or similar cartridge). It softpatches it to the 2nd slot via the menu in the CycloDS. The only bad part is that you can't get back to the CycloDS menu like you can with DS games. That of course may change in the future since the feature is still only in beta. I can say that it's worked perfectly so far. I'm halfway through Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland with no lag, no bugs, and the game saves too!

Oh wait. By dump roms did you mean something completely different? =o

value tart Jun 28, 2008 11:27 AM

I saw somewhere that the people who make the R4 aren't doing any more updates for it... is that just a rumor, or fact?

I ask because Daigasso Band Brothers DX apparently uses a larger than normal save file that'll require ALL of the flash cart makers to patch to make it work. I don't want to have gotten the cart that is going to remain partially broken forever :gonk:

Sousuke Jun 28, 2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 620975)
Oh wait. By dump roms did you mean something completely different? =o

I think what he meant was putting a real GBA game in slot-2 and dumping a ROM to the Cyclo card. And... I'm not sure if you can.

FatsDomino Jun 28, 2008 12:33 PM

Yeah, probably not. Dunno. Seems like it could be possible but it's not like there aren't actual tools out there for that.

Also Mo0, this is why I told you that you should have gotten a CycloDS. ACTUAL AWESOME CUSTOMER SUPPORT BY ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.

Buizel Jun 28, 2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 620982)
I saw somewhere that the people who make the R4 aren't doing any more updates for it... is that just a rumor, or fact?

I ask because Daigasso Band Brothers DX apparently uses a larger than normal save file that'll require ALL of the flash cart makers to patch to make it work. I don't want to have gotten the cart that is going to remain partially broken forever :gonk:

The R4 team is just being quiet right now because of Nintendo busting their factory. They now usually release update/fixes to popular games. Since DBBDX seems popular enough, hopefully we'll see and update for it soon...

...or else I'm going to buy the game! I want to play the game SO bad! :gonk:

Dhsu Jun 28, 2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleDunamis (Post 620942)
Is there any way to dump GBA roms with CycloDS, like there is for DS roms?

You could ask on their forums. That's the nice thing about Team Cyclops stuff, they actually have forums!

FatsDomino Jun 28, 2008 12:38 PM

Band Brothers, huh? I imported it a long time ago. It's alright. There are some interesting things you can do with it and I enjoyed it but I haven't touched the game in quite a while. I'm a bit confused as to why Nintendo didn't bring it over. All they'd have to do is remove the anime songs (licensing issues) and it would be just dandy.


Oh and yes what Dhsu said. =)

Dhsu Jun 28, 2008 12:42 PM

A lot of the appeal seems to be in the music creator. From what I could tell it's like Mario Paint on steroids or somesuch.

So is DX already out? I still need to beat the original...

Buizel Jun 28, 2008 01:32 PM

Yeah, Band Brothers DX is out and Nintendo has sneaked something "extra" to combat pirates (or make it DRM-ish).

DX use a new save type, or rather, a larger save than the typical 512KB. At first people thought it was using 1MB which no flashcart supports it but TeamCyclops has discovered that the game actually use 8MB!
I'm not surprise because 100 downloadable songs + 100 user creation song wouldn't fit on a 512KB save file nor on 1MB.

Then people ran into another problem: they couldn't connect to the server to download songs. Why? Nintendo actually put some sort of ID to each cart so when people are using the same rom connecting to the server, they ban that ID.

Looks like I'm going to import a copy!

Buffet Overflow, if you want a quick fix to make the game run on the R4 (of course you cannot download any songs as mention above), make sure you're using the later version, 1.18. Then download this patched _DS_MENU.DAT and the 8MB save and you'll be all set.

FatsDomino Jun 28, 2008 03:01 PM

That's actually pretty clever. I wonder if anyone who cares enough will come up with a way to patch the game with a random id.

value tart Jun 28, 2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCN401 (Post 621023)
Yeah, Band Brothers DX is out and Nintendo has sneaked something "extra" to combat pirates (or make it DRM-ish).

DX use a new save type, or rather, a larger save than the typical 512KB. At first people thought it was using 1MB which no flashcart supports it but TeamCyclops has discovered that the game actually use 8MB!
I'm not surprise because 100 downloadable songs + 100 user creation song wouldn't fit on a 512KB save file nor on 1MB.

Then people ran into another problem: they couldn't connect to the server to download songs. Why? Nintendo actually put some sort of ID to each cart so when people are using the same rom connecting to the server, they ban that ID.

Looks like I'm going to import a copy!

Buffet Overflow, if you want a quick fix to make the game run on the R4 (of course you cannot download any songs as mention above), make sure you're using the later version, 1.18. Then download this patched _DS_MENU.DAT and the 8MB save and you'll be all set.

Out of curiosity, where'd you find those? I'm curious as to where updates are being put out from, because their website is ooooooooold.

Buizel Jun 28, 2008 03:15 PM

I visit GBAtemp.net for news and updates. That R4 patch isn't "official" so you should check out the site for any user patch/updates. This is the topic about the game itself if you want to read through 35+ pages.

Dhsu Jun 28, 2008 05:00 PM

Wow, half of those posts aren't even comprehensible English.

I have faith that Team Cyclops will get this sorted out by the final firmware release though.

Zephyrin Jun 28, 2008 05:37 PM

Did Nintendo REALLY bust the R4 factory? I read that it just shut down, but nothing about Nintendo.

Anyhow, I read somewhere today about there being a patch for the firmware to make Band of Brothers work, but it was kinda a quick fix, since it was just a save state.

And there was a website that kinda cataloged the release numbers and rom release data for all the GBA and DS games, but I can't seem to find it. I'm sure there are multiple websites like this, but I'm looking for a particular one. Does anybody browse any sites like this?

value tart Jun 28, 2008 07:50 PM

Man, I really REALLY hope they still publish updates. Last thing I want is a card that'll be obsolete in 6 months. :(

Zephyrin Jun 28, 2008 10:17 PM

Should've researched the market, brotha.

I didn't buy R4 for several reasons, including: made by chinks, website ran off of a 56k modem, factory shut down.

With those three reasons alone, one should avoid such purchases.

value tart Jun 28, 2008 10:29 PM

Well, shit, pardon me for missing the notice that went up EVERYWHERE apparently that their factory shut down. :/

Combine that with CycloDS' website looking like it was designed by a colorblind monkey on crack and that NEITHER of them sell their own product on their own website, and you have the reasons why I picked the R4. Also, I polled various GFFers and such and got "R4 if most of what you want to do is DS games", which is true. :/

The CycloDS was also a good chunk more expensive than the R4. :/

Dhsu Jun 28, 2008 10:52 PM

Well it looks like you'll need to use that money you saved to import Band Bros DX.

FatsDomino Jun 28, 2008 11:06 PM

Mo0, none of the flash card makers sell their stuff on their website. They let the shady distributors handle that shit.

And really the way I've been blabbering on about the CycloDS if you'd even read this thread you'd have known it was the one to get. But really there are enough people out there that have an R4 that it'll be supported unofficially for a while yet.

Oh and please tell me who these GFFers are. They are wrong. Maybe if you want a CHEAP flashcard that will work you're okay with an R4 but if you really want something you can count on that will work with a gusto then it's CycloDS. And really it's the same price as buying a videogame so I don't want to hear from anybody that it's expensive. The amount you get back out of it far far far far covers the cost it's not even funny.

^-^ Jun 28, 2008 11:43 PM

My M3 DS Simply works with a gusto. And more.

value tart Jun 29, 2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 621155)
Well it looks like you'll need to use that money you saved to import Band Bros DX.

That'd be my brother's problem, actually. I could care less about the game, but I came here with urgency because he wouldn't get off my ass about it.

Also Acer, I was asking around in #gfchat, #nwifi, and #xblive. I have no idea this thread existed until I'd already bought my R4. :(

But, I mean, I have had, other than this one thing, ZERO problems with my R4 so far. Why you actin' like I made a really horrible decision? :(

Because, at this point, I'm not gonna go and buy a CycloDS unless my brother'd be willing to buy this R4 off me. I'm not buying TWO flash carts just because one of them is fancier while the one I have works. >_>

Buizel Jun 29, 2008 01:15 AM

I bought the R4 when it first release because during that time it did everything that other flashcard couldn't do and one of the reason why it's "popular" (other includes being n00bish friendly where ANYBODY can buy one and use it with no problem). It does everything that I wanted to do except for DS to Wii connectivity (ie Pokemon) and the Band Brothers DX situation (which most likely get an official fix soon; save file only).

BTW, another "tidbit" about DX save: downloadable songs are encrypted! So it's going to be harder for homebrewer to developed an app that allow extracting and importing songs from one save to another like they did for the first Band Brothers.

EDIT: Looks like TeamCyclops did it again! With the latest beta firmware it now allow people to connect Wi-Fi AND download songs. They have something to say about it though...
Quote:

From Evolution:

Well this is interesting :) With v1.41B2, if creating a fresh save for Daigasso DX, CycloDS will set the "unique identifier" to a random value. During our previous testing, with the ID set to a random value everything would work EXCEPT for downloading songs, so its quite strange that its working now. It should be trivial for the servers to check if the ID being provided is legitimate or not, so I wonder if Gh0st is right and Nintendo are collecting IP addresses? Be careful guys :D

Anyway, its good to see that people are happy with the BETA!
But it doesn't stop there! The save file is also compatible with other flashcart (as long you can some way disable the flashcard firmware from checking the save file when loading the rom)! I tried it on my R4 and it works. You can download the save file here. Hurry and download your songs before Nintendo block this save file ID. :tpg:

Syndrome Jun 29, 2008 06:32 AM

I got the M3 DS Simply for some time ago when it was pretty new, and yesterday I went ahead and ordered a M3 Real for the GBA possibilities. I'm thinking about trying that Sakura firmware, but I read that it doesn't support software reset. Sucks :(

Anyhow, I can't wait to play all the GBA games I've missed. To bad the GBA-cart is black though :V

xiaowei Jun 29, 2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 621177)
Because, at this point, I'm not gonna go and buy a CycloDS unless my brother'd be willing to buy this R4 off me. I'm not buying TWO flash carts just because one of them is fancier while the one I have works. >_>

CycloDS is overpriced if you just want to play some games. My suggestion is now pointing towards the AceKard2. It's $20 at dealextreme.

Infernal Monkey Jun 29, 2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 621243)
I got the M3 DS Simply for some time ago when it was pretty new, and yesterday I went ahead and ordered a M3 Real for the GBA possibilities. I'm thinking about trying that Sakura firmware, but I read that it doesn't support software reset. Sucks :(

I switched to the Sakura firmware pretty quick, it's so much faster than the default crap. ;_;

FatsDomino Jun 29, 2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 621177)
But, I mean, I have had, other than this one thing, ZERO problems with my R4 so far. Why you actin' like I made a really horrible decision? :(

Because I care, Mo0. Because I care. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiaowei (Post 621418)
CycloDS is overpriced if you just want to play some games.

I fail to see how 53 bucks is expensive for this but okaaay. =/

value tart Jun 29, 2008 11:10 PM

Well, I think he's saying if all you want to do is play DS games, and you have a choice between $35 or $53, and you really REALLY don't care about any of the other features, then yeah, $53 would look overpriced.

FatsDomino Jun 30, 2008 10:37 AM

That's dandy. Just don't come crying to me when you come across a game that doesn't work perfectly or at all and some gook-eyed mother fucker who is out to make a quick buck doesn't give two shits about your problem when I told you so. That's all.

R4: Inferior product, way inferior support.

Also, wouldn't it be a smart idea to stay away from the hot topic flash card that Nintendo is specifically demonizing and targeting in its anti-piracy busts? Yeah, not that anything will come down to the consumer level for this but I myself would like to stay away from sending up any obvious red flags.

See, if you know what you're getting into when you buy an R4 and what you will be getting out of the product then fine. But what I hate is the blatant recommending of the product that I see EVERYWHERE. R4 isn't the flash card you should buy. It isn't. People shouldn't be recommending the product if they know that there is a better product out there and thus I just can't tell you to buy an R4.

I really shouldn't have to say anything else. Look at the freaking title of this thread.

Your R4 will probably work just fine for your purposes minus a few games here and there and it'll have issues with a few features like Download Play (if you care about that) and you'll be limited to 2 gigs with no support for SDHC (again if you care to use the card for anything higher than say 30 games plus a bit of fun homebrew and media capabilities).

Maybe I'm out to make R4 owners feel bad about their purchases or maybe I'm pissed off that superior products are overlooked just because people are acting like idiotic misers. Maybe it's both. Maybe it's both.

Zephyrin Jun 30, 2008 11:20 AM

He doesn't have problems now, because they pretty much just reached the end of their support. In about a year from now, there will be a bucketload of games that'll be glitched with no patches to fix them.

This site (note prices are in Australian dollars, but that's not the point) has a fun little table to show the abilities and such of each card. The AceKard has a 1 in 20 chance of being DOA. And it says all of them support download play, but I've read that some cards have problems. I didn't have any problems with mine yet concerning that.

Slot 1 Devices : OzModChips.com, Australian Supplier of WiiKey, D2CKey, M3DS, R4DS and CycloDS

Dhsu Jun 30, 2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 621243)
Anyhow, I can't wait to play all the GBA games I've missed. To bad the GBA-cart is black though :V

If you have a white DS, you can replace the shell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiaowei (Post 621418)
CycloDS is overpriced if you just want to play some games. My suggestion is now pointing towards the AceKard2. It's $20 at dealextreme.

Yeah, I mentioned before that any of the current-generation (or even last-generation) cards will work if you just wanna play games: TTDS/DSTT, EDGE, iTouchDS, and AceKard2 are the ones I've seen recommended the most so far, and they're all under $30. A couple of them are Evo clones in fact. The AceKard2 in particular is actually pretty intriguing though, since apparently its firmware is open source which I know will appeal to some people.

Again, what you're paying for with the Evo is the support. Back when I was choosing a cart, it was pretty much just the R4/M3 and Evo on the market, costing $40 and $53 respectively. I decided to pay the extra $13 for the support, and I've been happy with that decision so far.

FatsDomino Jun 30, 2008 11:33 AM

Zeph, the new AceKard holds promise with being open source. I imagine if it gets enough attention people are going to make some interesting interfaces for it.

And yeah, it's probably best to wait until the 2nd or 3rd big batch of a new flash card comes out. The first batch always seems to have those DOA issues that they work out in time. People had that same issue with the CycloDS. The four CycloDS cartridges that I've ordered after the 2nd/3rd batch all work perfectly. I'm sure the same will be for the new AceKard. From the looks of it they seem to be trying real hard to please their customers since they had a few less well-received cards in the past.

Zephyrin Jun 30, 2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 621565)
If you have a white DS, you can replace the shell.

Do you know if that would work with the 3-in-1, also? It'd be nice to have that way I can buy the lite version, in case I ever buy a DS lite to replace my DSFat.

And why does Acer need 4 flash cards?

value tart Jun 30, 2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounce Overflow (Post 621554)
Your R4 will probably work just fine for your purposes minus a few games here and there and it'll have issues with a few features like Download Play (if you care about that) and you'll be limited to 2 gigs with no support for SDHC (again if you care to use the card for anything higher than say 30 games plus a bit of fun homebrew and media capabilities).

Maybe I'm out to make R4 owners feel bad about their purchases or maybe I'm pissed off that superior products are overlooked just because people are acting like idiotic misers. Maybe it's both. Maybe it's both.

Ah well. I can always upgrade to the CycloDS if necessary for some game that I really want to play. I just can't justify doing it RIGHT THIS SECOND since the R4 purchase is still so fresh. So yeah, Acer, you've convinced me, but I got the flash cart to SAVE money, not to spend it faster than normal ($80 in a month on DS stuff is much higher than normal :( )

(Seriously, $50 is a LOT of money to someone who's trying to save as much as possible of what he makes because he's not going to be working in the fall (like me)! :gonk:)

Shit, Acer, you have FOUR CycloDS'? Give me one! I AM GOING TO YOUR SCHOOL IN THE FALL I CAN HUNT YOU DOWN

Zephyrin Jun 30, 2008 12:20 PM

SIT ON HIM. It will POP out of some magical CycloDS holding orifice.

Dhsu Jun 30, 2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyrin (Post 621575)
Do you know if that would work with the 3-in-1, also? It'd be nice to have that way I can buy the lite version, in case I ever buy a DS lite to replace my DSFat.

Hm, I dunno. But for $2.50, maybe it's worth a try?

FatsDomino Jun 30, 2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyrin (Post 621575)
Do you know if that would work with the 3-in-1, also? It'd be nice to have that way I can buy the lite version, in case I ever buy a DS lite to replace my DSFat.

And why does Acer need 4 flash cards?

I don't. I've set them up for other people that really wanted one after trying mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 621576)
Shit, Acer, you have FOUR CycloDS'? Give me one! I AM GOING TO YOUR SCHOOL IN THE FALL I CAN HUNT YOU DOWN

OH CAN YOU FIND ME NOW? I THINK YOU'LL HAVE QUITE A HARD TIME. MUHAHAHAHA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyrin (Post 621581)
SIT ON HIM. It will POP out of some magical CycloDS holding orifice.

lololololololololololololol

Syndrome Jun 30, 2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 621565)
If you have a white DS, you can replace the shell.

Oh yeah. Because paying once for the card, it's expansions and a fucking RUMBLE isn't enough to get a white one that approximately 112% of the DS owners have. No.

Thanks for the link though.

seanne Jul 4, 2008 09:20 AM

So I need to get a card. I'm thinking cyclods, but I've heard bad things about the card reader that's bundled with it. Bad as in it not really working that well, it not being compliant with sdhc cards, etc.

Is there any truth to this?

Chaotic Jul 4, 2008 09:24 AM

Yeah, mine kinda crapped out on me after a while. I have an SD card adapter that makes the micro into a normal sized one, so I just use that to put everything I need to on there.

If you buy a Micro, it should come with the adapter anyway, so if you have a laptop with a card reader, then whoo. If not, use a digital camera or something.

map car man words telling me to do things Jul 4, 2008 10:25 AM

This is pretty curious. A friend of mine just recently bought a cycloDS and his USB adapter thingie keeps crapping out on him. He also said half the time he boots up his DS it won't even notice the cycloDS. He suspects it's because he has an old DS, but that shouldn't matter.

I bought mine a while back and haven't had a single problem with anything so far. I still need to test out his cycloDS on mine and my cycloDS on his, as well as the usb adapters to see if there's any difference.

As for the readers in general, most microSD cards come with an SD card adapter with them so you'd still have a workaround if the USB adapter craps out. Till now though I hadn't heard anything of the sort. I first suspected my friend just handled the teeny tiny microSD card badly.

Chaotic Jul 4, 2008 10:37 AM

That was probably the case with mine as well, but I have about six SD card converters lying around my house, so losing that as an option isn't even that big of a deal to me.

If anything, I don't think it should be too expensive to buy another USB Micro SD card reader if that one does crap out. One I checked online went for about 5 bux.

Syndrome Jul 4, 2008 04:31 PM

Reporting in, the M3 Real works wonders. Finally GBA!
The Sakura firmware is awesome, smooth and swift. Couldn't get any better.

My only complaint is that Tetris Grand Master (homebrew) or software reset doesn't work, but meh.

I wanted to get more storage, so I bought a new SD Micro card. I was basically trying to get the most gigs with the least money, and got a 2 GB from Sandisk. I heard some cards are too slow and have problems with some games, but I haven't encountered any problems whatsoever. Even Daigasso DX works.

Zephyrin Jul 4, 2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky (Post 623255)
He also said half the time he boots up his DS it won't even notice the cycloDS.

I've had that problem maybe once or twice. But nothing consistent.

There are lots of reports of their readers going bad, but apparently whatever vendor you purchased from is supposed to replace it for you.

The problem I am having, and am considering sending my CycloDS back for a new one, is that whenever I shut my shell, and open back up, the game freezes, sometimes...

Really frustrating.

FatsDomino Jul 4, 2008 11:01 PM

I tried using the bundled USB reader that comes with the CycloDS but it's really really slow so I said screw it and I've never used it since. I've never had problems since either. Huh.

Anyway, I bought these nice 8 GB micro SDHC cards and they come with a really good USB micro sdhc reader. I really recommend using something besides what you get with the Cyclo because it'll just end up working a whole lot better.

UltimaIchijouji Jul 5, 2008 03:50 AM

I've been contemplating buying some means of DS pirating for a year or so now since I got mine. I'm generally disinterested in a lot of DS games, but I wonder if this is just because I'm a hardened PSP fanboy, or because I haven't tried any.

For the PSP, I always was keen to buy games, but once I started pirating them I wanted to own them that much more, so I'm kind of thinking the same might hold true for the DS.

What do you all think?

Zephyrin Jul 5, 2008 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounce Overflow (Post 623389)
I tried using the bundled USB reader that comes with the CycloDS but it's really really slow so I said screw it and I've never used it since. I've never had problems since either.

Exactly what "problems" do you mean?

Dhsu Jul 5, 2008 07:45 PM

Never had problems with my reader (except for Windows sometimes not being able to stop the device for some reason).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaoi Overflow (Post 623446)
I've been contemplating buying some means of DS pirating for a year or so now since I got mine. I'm generally disinterested in a lot of DS games, but I wonder if this is just because I'm a hardened PSP fanboy, or because I haven't tried any.

For the PSP, I always was keen to buy games, but once I started pirating them I wanted to own them that much more, so I'm kind of thinking the same might hold true for the DS.

What do you all think?

I'm gonna say that getting a flashcart will most likely not make you like DS games any more, but you'll be able easily try out games that might interest you for free and that in itself will pay for the cart fairly quickly.

FatsDomino Jul 5, 2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyrin (Post 623451)
Exactly what "problems" do you mean?

It's been quite a while but I recall the included reader being really damn slow and so I canceled it. Or at least some of it. What I recall happening is that the stuff I'd sent or must have gotten fucked up somehow because I had to end up reformatting the sd card and redoing the firmware for the Cyclo. The games and applications I'd put on the card mysteriously disappeared during a boot up after I'd used the included card reader so I wasn't about to use it again. So yeah I've never used the included shit since. The stuff you get with the sd cards works great though even more so for the sdhc cards since their transfer is even faster. So yeah thumbs up to Cyclo for their flash cards but thumbs down for the included micro sd card reader.

seanne Jul 7, 2008 10:53 AM

Thanks for the responses guys. I won't be taking any chances with the included one then.

Omnislash124 Jul 7, 2008 12:35 PM

I figure I'll ask this here since I can't find a clear answer anywhere else.

Is it impossible to use the Pal Park of a legitimate Pokemon Diamond cart with a ROM of a GBA Pokemon game stored on a flash cart?

It doesn't seem likely, but I'd like to have confirmation before I stop pursuing this.

Dhsu Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM

I don't see why not. You might need a 3-in-1 though and use the NOR flash, since it sounds like this would involve a hard reset.

Omnislash124 Jul 7, 2008 01:13 PM

Ah, I suppose I wouldn't be possible on a Slot-2 device, would it? I have an M3 Lite Perfect right now.

I was hoping for it to be able to see the slot-2 device as a real Pokemon game so that it could load the data from the device like the regular cart.

Krelian Jul 7, 2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnislash124 (Post 624324)
I figure I'll ask this here since I can't find a clear answer anywhere else.

Is it impossible to use the Pal Park of a legitimate Pokemon Diamond cart with a ROM of a GBA Pokemon game stored on a flash cart?

It doesn't seem likely, but I'd like to have confirmation before I stop pursuing this.

I believe there's a way to write a single game to a GBA flashcart in a manner similar to burning a disc image - that has worked for people from what I have read. I don't know the details, though, so I'm no help.

Dhsu Jul 7, 2008 04:45 PM

Yeah, there should be a way to "burn" a GBA game onto your M3 so that it acts like a normal GBA cart. I suggest checking the manual.

RacinReaver Jul 7, 2008 08:49 PM

I've been using the microSD adapter that came with my Cyclo since I got it and haven't had any real problems with the moving data onto the card part.

I was having issues where it wouldn't load properly when I turned the DS on and the only way I could fix it was by reinstalling the firmware, but I eventually figured out it was a bad skin file that was causing it to screw up (rewriting the firmware would turn it off of "Random" for the theme), so I deleted all of my skins and haven't had a problem since.

Omnislash124 Jul 7, 2008 10:24 PM

Unfortunately, the M3 documentation isn't very good. And everywhere I see, it's about GBA/NDS linkage between two ROMS, which isn't what I'm trying to achieve here. I can't really apply that to my situation either because that situation requires you to patch both ROMS, which, I only have one.

The best way, as you said, would be to somehow "burn" a GBA game image to the flash cart, yet I don't see anywhere in the M3 manual to do so.

But I suppose I should actually get the national Pokedex to actually try out what I have before discrediting anything.

Zephyrin Jul 8, 2008 11:01 PM

Do you have a GBA flash cart?

There are some carts with the so called "fast ROM" and "slow ROM", and the ones with slow rom, I think it is, let you flash the image and it stays there. This is the best bet I would assume you have at trying to accomplish what you're trying to do.

I wouldn't know which GBA flash carts have which ROM, but I'm pretty sure the 3-in-1 has both types. You'll probably want to research it.

RacinReaver Jul 9, 2008 01:14 AM

Not sure if anyone's currently in the market for one, but Woot : One Day, One Deal (SM) has a 2GB Kingston MicroSD card with adapter for $5.99 + $5 shipping today. Shipping is the same for up to 3, so you can get 6 GB for $23.

Sousuke Jul 24, 2008 08:17 PM

Well, this is a bit of a piss-off. I got my CycloDS the other day, but I only had a 256mb microSD to go with it. So tonight, I picked up a Kingston 4gb microSDHC, and... well, the Cyclo USB adapter works fine with the 256mb card, as do both of my SD adapter cards. But NONE of them will read the 4gb card--the explorer window just freezes up until I remove the card. Any ideas?

RacinReaver Jul 24, 2008 08:26 PM

Did the SDHC card come with it's own adapter? It might have something to do with it being microSDHC rather than microSD.

Or it could just be a faulty card.

Sousuke Jul 24, 2008 08:54 PM

It did come with an micro-to-SD adapter card, but it doesn't seem to read the microSD either. It'll read the 256mb card, though.

I tried them out in my RAZR phone, and the same thing comes up. However, when I plug it in with the 4gb card, it actually recognizes the device... just not the card. It tells me to 'Insert a memory card in drive x:'.

I put it in the CycloDS to test the 'faulty' theory--it reads the card, only it tells me that it hasn't been formatted as FAT16/FAT32. I'm wondering if a boot into Ubuntu or something [though I'd have to use a LiveCD] would make it work.

Zephyrin Jul 27, 2008 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sousuke (Post 630305)
Well, this is a bit of a piss-off. I got my CycloDS the other day, but I only had a 256mb microSD to go with it. So tonight, I picked up a Kingston 4gb microSDHC, and... well, the Cyclo USB adapter works fine with the 256mb card, as do both of my SD adapter cards. But NONE of them will read the 4gb card--the explorer window just freezes up until I remove the card. Any ideas?

There is a lot of talk about past problems with MicroSD cards and ways to attempt to fix them. I just spent a good bit of time reading through some of it.

The second post has links to tools and software to try.

New firmware corrupting Micro-SD card. - Team Cyclops Forums

Sousuke Jul 27, 2008 10:15 AM

I tried that out too, it just locks up the formatter until I pull out the SD card. I've just concluded that my card reader isn't SDHC-compatible, and neither is the little USB transflas they included... Which is kind of stupid. In any case, I'm either going to return the card [and get the one with the USB transflash packaged with it... for $10 more] or just pick up an external card reader this week. We'll see what happens.

[edit] Now that you mention it, it very well could have been the firmware update... That's the first thing I did when I got the Cyclo, so I don't know. But the smaller 256mb card still works fine?

[another edit] Ahaha, I just saw this post:

Quote:

Usually I can get it to detect the card by pulling the reader out and putting it back in a few times, which is odd, because there is no problems with the USB connection. I've tried the readers with 3 computers, and all have the same problem. It may have somthing to do with the SDHC compatibility of the reader, but it seems strange that it would only do it sometimes. I can't use the MicroSD to SD adapter, because my computers SD reader is not SDHC compatible.
So I put the card in the Cyclo's transflash reader and just slipped it in and out of a USB port a few times, and POOF! The red light came on. I'm happy that it works, even if I have to do that a few times to get it to go.

seanne Aug 2, 2008 05:40 AM

What the hell, I finally get my cyclods and the official page goes to shit :(

RYU Aug 2, 2008 07:21 AM

is good to buy Top Toy DS?it is compatibility with most DS games?

Kostaki Aug 2, 2008 09:17 AM

I was actually waiting until I got paid this month in order to buy one of these, and was going to ask you guys which card would be the biggest bang for my buck as I wanted to run GB/GBA roms as well as DS games... but I guess Nintendo decided to start their crusade right as I became interested in one.

:tpg:

Fuck.

Dhsu Aug 2, 2008 02:13 PM

Nah, this happens every once in a while...TC releases a new firmware, their bandwidth gets raped, site goes down. You can still get the latest stable and beta firmware at GBATemp. And honestly, if they were shut down right this moment, they'd still be better than any other card currently on the market in terms of features alone.

But yeah, waiting for the site to come back up would probably be a good idea, in case any technical problems crop up for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 632968)
is good to buy Top Toy DS?it is compatibility with most DS games?

The TTDS is fine in terms of compatibility. You might have some problems with Band Bros. DX like everyone else, but other than that, it should work.

RYU Aug 3, 2008 04:34 AM

Thanks Dhsu for info

FatsDomino Aug 3, 2008 04:55 PM

Hey Dhsu, TC's website is displaying an interesting message.

"This Account is suspended. Please contact the billing department regarding your account. billing @ katzglobal.com."

It could just be that they used up their bandwidth like you were saying.

Dhsu Aug 4, 2008 02:03 AM

Yeah, that's my guess.

Edit: They're back up now.

RYU Aug 10, 2008 06:10 PM

where best site to buy TTDS (cheaper)? divineo.com not have it.

RacinReaver Aug 11, 2008 02:42 AM

DSTT

I've bought from them before, and they were quick and friendly. Also take American Express which is nice for their buyer protection. I've also bought from kickgaming.com, but I don't see what you're talking about on sale there.

RYU Aug 11, 2008 06:00 AM

thanks for info

DeLorean Sep 9, 2008 06:48 PM

R4 Chips & Such
 
I've recently been looking into the R4 chip. For some reason, I was originally under the impression that I could put roms on it OTHER than DS roms. I recently learned this is not so. For my personal preferences, this deems the R4 chip unnecessary to me. My question is, is there a product similar to the R4 chip that enables me to put NES/SNES/Gameboy roms onto my DS?

Thanks guys!

Kimchi Sep 9, 2008 07:13 PM

Doesn't N5 allow you to do that as well? O_o, I am not sure (I have both 5 and D4) since this delicious thread doesn't cover it :(

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...dscyclods.html

Zephyrin Sep 9, 2008 07:15 PM

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...dscyclods.html

I assume this will get merged...

CycloDS can run any emu, basically. Some of them aren't that great, and haven't been developed very well yet, though.

There's an M3 Perfect setup, also, but I'm not as familiar with that. But you can basically do just as much with it.

But anyways, I suggest buying a CycloDS from Jandaman.com. That site had some of the best prices, it only took a couple days to ship, and I had a minor issue with my card so I asked if I could get it warrantied even though I was just slightly out of the warranty period, and he sent me a new card with a return label, so I never had to buy postage OR go without my card.

Great guy.

Infernal Monkey Sep 9, 2008 08:52 PM

http://i38.tinypic.com/2itd7q.jpg
http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...dscyclods.html
http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...dscyclods.html
http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...dscyclods.html

Getting an R4 for your DS at this stage is like buying a VHS player for your HDTV, outdated as fuck. AS FUCK. Can you imagine those dried up juices? Oh man. I have an M3 something or other and furiously enjoy Game Boy and Master System ROMs on it every day.

http://i35.tinypic.com/34fgylu.jpg

DeLorean Sep 10, 2008 10:07 AM

So it sounds like M3 is the way to go because you can put any emulator on it (provided it will fit), as well as play downloaded DS games? Is it the general consensus that M3 is the best? Ive read most of the posts here but I still can't come to a conclusion about which is best for me. I really want to play the old emulated games (NES/SNES/Genesis/Gameboy) but also would like to play the downloaded games... tell me what you think.

FatsDomino Sep 10, 2008 10:18 AM

That will probably work just fine but as always I suggest you go with CycloDS. If you haven't already done so please read the thread.

Dhsu Sep 10, 2008 01:52 PM

Yeah, good SNES emulation is still a ways off, and I haven't tried out any Genesis emus, but NES/Gameboy is pretty decent so far. Any old flashcart will let you enjoy emulators though, even the R4. But like Infernal said, it's really really old, and you can get something newer like the TTDS or EDGE DS for half the price.

FatsDomino Sep 10, 2008 02:00 PM

Can't remember what old Gameboy emulator I'm using on mine but it isn't quite full speed just yet. And while it's not like NES roms are big or anything it seems silly that there aren't any emulators out there that allow you to select an individual rom. They all seem to call for using some application to pack them all into some odd file.

Dhsu Sep 10, 2008 02:41 PM

According to this, NES DS plays individual files just fine. Apparently no DPCM or PCM sound though, which is :gonk:. You might have been thinking about Goomba Color, which is actually a GBA homebrew GBC emulator and requires the ROMs you want to play to be packed into the same file as the emulator. There is a DS port floating around now though, so maybe that's fixed too.

The latest Lameboy is actually full speed for most stuff now. Still some slowdown and glitches in Shantae though. :(

^-^ Sep 10, 2008 04:36 PM

Nevermind, I should learn to read.

Lukage Sep 10, 2008 05:31 PM

Just remember with the M3, don't get the Simply as you're then SOL as far as Slot-2 devices.

Dhsu Sep 10, 2008 11:46 PM

How so? Just get an EZFlash 3-in-1 or eWin GBA expansion, download Rudolph's GBAExpLoader, and you should be set.

Dark Nation Oct 23, 2008 11:31 PM

Sorry to cast Necromancy on this thread, but I just got the M3 DS Real.

What emulators are supported? ... and what DS games are NOT?
Guess I'm just trying to find a general "set-up" guide, since Elixir was apparently banned and his post was uh, cleared out.

Dhsu Oct 24, 2008 02:30 AM

You can get emulators for most stuff up to SNES, which is where it starts getting a little iffy.

Generally there won't be any games that aren't supported, since patches usually come out for the various cards pretty fast. I have heard of problems downloading songs in Band Bros. DX though.

Buizel Oct 24, 2008 10:49 AM

You can't download songs via Wi-Fi in Band Brother DX period. Each cart have a unique ID and Nintendo flagged the ID of the rom that's been dumped from downloading song.

mortis Oct 24, 2008 06:08 PM

That is until they find a way to hack a random ID...

Buizel Oct 24, 2008 11:06 PM

But for now you can always download the Wi-Fi packs that people are nice enough to download and dumped (can be found at gbatemp.net). About 300+ songs dumped... out of 3000+ songs on Nintendo server. @_@

100 Download Slot isn't enough. lol

Dark Nation Oct 25, 2008 12:29 AM

I haven't had a problem with the NDS games, but when I try out the SNEmulDS.nds, it just hangs. Said something about DLCL or whatever compatable. Is there any other GBA / SNES emulator I can use?

FatsDomino Oct 25, 2008 12:45 AM

SNES emulation isn't worth the trouble at all. Your best to stick with GameBoy Color via lameboy as far as oldschool systems go. You need a slot 2 to do GBA games.

Dark Nation Oct 25, 2008 02:38 AM

Damm, I wanted to have portable Super Metroid :(

Chaotic Oct 25, 2008 02:50 AM

GBC emulation? Hmm... How wonderful it would be to go and play the Pokemon Trading Card Game again. :3:

Syndrome Oct 25, 2008 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INDIGO-1 (Post 654540)
I haven't had a problem with the NDS games, but when I try out the SNEmulDS.nds, it just hangs. Said something about DLCL or whatever compatable. Is there any other GBA / SNES emulator I can use?

Sounds like you need to DLDI-patch your emu. You can download a prepatched version here:

SNEmulDS homepage » DLDI

Dhsu Oct 29, 2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INDIGO-1 (Post 654571)
Damm, I wanted to have portable Super Metroid :(

Well there's no harm in trying. Go ahead and patch it up, and see if you consider it playable (check the compatibility list for extra notes on getting things working correctly). Also, SNEmulDS will utilize RAM expansions for a little extra performance boost, although I'm not positive if the M3DS Real expansion in particular is supported.

llmercll Oct 29, 2008 06:12 PM

I'm fairly new to ds cards and have been looking into the R4 for awhile now. But after reading some posts it seems the R4 is outdated and replaced with the m3 or cyclo? I just feel kind of confused now because I've had the r4 in mind for a few weeks :twitch:

could anyone sum up what the "top" card is right now and why? I'm sure it's not that simple but what i'm looking for top priority is a card to store ds roms on, and play them on my ds successfully.

other system emulation would be wonderful (mostly GBA GBC GB) but not as important to me and ds.

EDIT* I'm actually leaning toward the m3 right now because infernal monkey said he can successfully play master system and gameboy games on his card.

oh, and i have a laserdisc hooked up my plasma. booya!

FatsDomino Oct 29, 2008 08:01 PM

I wish folks would read the last few pages of a topic they seem to be interested in. It might help them a bit what with the information they might contain. =/

That said the cyclo is the better of those choices. It'll even do GBC and Master System emulation. In order to play GBA games you will require a slot 2 device.

My recommendation to you is a Cyclo DS Evolution and an EZ 3 in 1 slot 2 card (ezflash V).

Here, I'll even give you my recommended place for buying these things:

Cyclo: CycloDS Evolution, CycloDS, Cyclo DS Evo

ezflash V (assuming you have a ds lite): EZ Flash Expansion 3 in 1


Further advice should you decide to purchase these: Don't use the piece of shit USB microSD transfer device that comes with the Cyclo. I've bought four Cyclos and that piece of crap USB device fucks up the microSD card just about every time. Use the USB transfer device that comes with your microSD card instead. I've had no problems with the 8 GB microHCSD cards they offer you with your purchase. It's worth it.

llmercll Oct 30, 2008 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHNEE-4 (Post 655704)
I wish folks would read the last few pages of a topic they seem to be interested in. It might help them a bit what with the information they might contain. =/

That said the cyclo is the better of those choices. It'll even do GBC and Master System emulation. In order to play GBA games you will require a slot 2 device.

My recommendation to you is a Cyclo DS Evolution and an EZ 3 in 1 slot 2 card (ezflash V).

Here, I'll even give you my recommended place for buying these things:

Cyclo: CycloDS Evolution, CycloDS, Cyclo DS Evo

ezflash V (assuming you have a ds lite): EZ Flash Expansion 3 in 1


Further advice should you decide to purchase these: Don't use the piece of shit USB microSD transfer device that comes with the Cyclo. I've bought four Cyclos and that piece of crap USB device fucks up the microSD card just about every time. Use the USB transfer device that comes with your microSD card instead. I've had no problems with the 8 GB microHCSD cards they offer you with your purchase. It's worth it.

AH thank you so much for this info. I've read the last 2 pages or so but didn't see anything definitive, sorry =(

The cyclo is a little more expensive than what I had in mind but if it's the best I'm down for it. Never buying a ds game again is 50 bones.

I find it surprising you need a slot 2 device to emulate GBA...if you can emulate master system and gbc thru slot 1 it would only make sense that you can play gba too...although maybe since the system is also designed for gba they have some requirements that only slot can offer.

That being said, can the cyclo emulate gameboy games too, or gamegear (being that game gear is like portable master system)? the old old ones? I'm sure it can but once again, just want to be safe.

Thanks for your help SCHNEE

llmercll Oct 31, 2008 06:54 AM

Bump, and SCHNEE an 8GB microHCSD WILL work with the cyclo? I'm looking at flash media for it right now, this looks wonderful

Newegg.com - Kingston 2GB MicroSD Flash Card with 2 adapters (miniSD and full-size SD) and USB reader Model MBLY/2GBKR - Flash Memory

but 8GB is even better. What matters most to me is speed. I hear loading time is a little slow on the cyclo (watched some reviews)

seanne Oct 31, 2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llmercll (Post 655944)
Bump, and SCHNEE an 8GB microHCSD WILL work with the cyclo?

Yes, it will. I'm using a 8gb Sandisc myself, works like a charm.

FatsDomino Oct 31, 2008 10:38 AM

I use the 8 GB microHCSD card that realhotstuff offers on their website. It works wonders. You can fit 100 DS games with plenty of room for GBA games, homebrew, and a bit of music.

Also, you don't understand how GBA works on the DS. It's not emulation. GBA hardware is built into the DS and DS lite. That is the slot 2. So basically how it works with the Cyclo and 3 in 1 cartridge is that you store the GBA games you want to play on the Cyclo's microSD/microHCSD card and it'll write GBA save files to the microSD/microHCSD card as well, but the Cyclo sends the actual GBA game down to the 3 in 1 cartridge to talk to the GBA hardware. No emulation involved. The DS doesn't have enough processing power to emulate SNES games properly so why would you expect it to do GBA emulation? That is why to play GBA games you must have a slot 2 device.

Zergrinch Oct 31, 2008 10:47 AM

The impending release of Chrono Trigger DS has made me interested in securing the console.

I have some questions:

1. I have a choice of CycloDS and DSTT. Which one is better in terms of reliability? (I'm not planning to play the entire game library or something like that, so compatibility is not that much of an issue to me.)

2. With the flash cart, can you do some kind of a 'save state'? (I've been spoiled by VisualBoyAdvance).

3. I understand there are various micro-SDHC cards with varying transfer speeds, from Class 2 to Class 6. For purposes of emulation, does this matter?

Thanks.

FatsDomino Oct 31, 2008 11:41 AM

1. I've heard good things about DSTT but I've heard its a bit more complicated in terms of its interface. I remember something about it being pretty customizable. I prefer the support that I know that comes with the Cyclo. But for sure you are far better off with a DSTT than a R4 or M3. DSTT and Cyclo are pretty much on equal terms as far as playing DS games and you probably won't encounter many problems with either of them.

2. Team Cyclo has been trying to do save states for DS games. They have the option available but I've yet to see it available when going to the in-game menu (abxy+lr) so I dunno. It's in the works but I wouldn't really rely on it. Not like all that many DS games are super hard or anything. Some of the DS emulation homebrew has save states. The GBC emulator Lameboy for instance has save states.

3. I'm not an expert on the various microHCSD cards but I do know that the one offered at realhotstuff works perfectly. For your information anything beyond wonderfully designed homebrew like ScummVM you ought to only do GBC and back so GBC, NES, and Master System are great. SNES and Genesis are really really dodgy and not worth the trouble. You'd just be wasting your time.

Zergrinch Oct 31, 2008 12:18 PM

Oh, I don't intend to do any GBA or GBC emulation. My being a cheapskate draws the line at DS (since I'd rather play the rest on my PC, with a nice gamepad).

To clarify my third question, there are SDHC cards with fast transfers, and there are cards with lower transfers. Will buying a cheapo card slow down the game emulation, or is this totally irrelevant to gameplay experience? (

Based on previous posts, there seems to be problems with brands of microSDHC cards, so I will definitely take the brand offered at realhotstuff into consideration.)

Buizel Oct 31, 2008 02:33 PM

On a side note, if you are planning to import DSi (for using flashcart)... don't. The NEW firmware only support Japanese language AND no flashcart works on it, yes that's including CycloDS too.

DSi incompatible with existing flash carts? - GBAtemp.net

I guess for now we'll play the waiting game.

llmercll Oct 31, 2008 02:42 PM

microHCSD and microSDHC. same thing? SCHWARZE, I think that a faster card MIGHT improve loading times, but it probably isn't anything major.

FatsDomino Oct 31, 2008 09:20 PM

Yeah. Secure Digital High Capacity. I often fumble where to place the HC. Sorry.


lol yet another reason not to get a DSi. Thanks BigCN. :)

horseman85 Oct 31, 2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHNEE-4 (Post 655971)
2. Team Cyclo has been trying to do save states for DS games. They have the option available but I've yet to see it available when going to the in-game menu (abxy+lr) so I dunno. It's in the works but I wouldn't really rely on it. Not like all that many DS games are super hard or anything. Some of the DS emulation homebrew has save states. The GBC emulator Lameboy for instance has save states.

Save states are available on the Cyclo but it has to be enabled from the Cyclo's option menu before you can do it from the in-game menu. But it is pretty buggy. Not all games support it and even the games that do can have problems with it.

FatsDomino Nov 1, 2008 01:39 AM

Yeah, that's what I've heard. I have it enabled but I've never seen the option available for use in the in-game menu so I don't really bother. I ought to just disable the feature. It's nice that they care though.

RacinReaver Nov 2, 2008 07:44 PM

You need to go into the options menu on the cyclo prior to booting into your game and enable real time saves, acer. It makes a file for each game upon your first time launching it which will be used for real time saves in the future. I tried it a long time back when they first added the feature, but it was still pretty buggy at the time (sound glitches were the most common error, sometimes video wouldn't load right), so I decided to stop using it since it generally just wound up being frustrating.

FatsDomino Nov 3, 2008 09:39 AM

I have enabled it in the Cyclo's options menu but I still don't see the feature available when I go into the in-game menu. I don't really care that much though since most DS games are fine without the feature.

llmercll Nov 3, 2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-7 (Post 655978)
Oh, I don't intend to do any GBA or GBC emulation. My being a cheapskate draws the line at DS (since I'd rather play the rest on my PC, with a nice gamepad).

To clarify my third question, there are SDHC cards with fast transfers, and there are cards with lower transfers. Will buying a cheapo card slow down the game emulation, or is this totally irrelevant to gameplay experience? (

Based on previous posts, there seems to be problems with brands of microSDHC cards, so I will definitely take the brand offered at realhotstuff into consideration.)

SCHWARZE, I quoted you earlier saying that a better miscroSDHC card probably wouldn't matter too much. I take that back.

CycloDS Evolution Review - GBAtemp.net

According to this getting a high quality sdhc card IS recommended. It mostly effects loading times, but can also effect gameplay.
I'll proabably be getting something like this.

I just wish the 8gb wasn't $30, I don't think I'll even need 8, meh

"Q: Have you encountered any freezing in games such as Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin?

A: Castlevania Portrait of Ruin has frozen both by tapping start continuously and repeatedly passing through portals on the unbranded 1GB micro SD and Sandisk standard 1GB card. The game did not lock up at any point when being played on the 1GB Kingston and 2GB Sandisk. I have also not experienced and problems on the 1GB Japanese PNY and 1GB sandisk Ultra II."

just letting you know =P

EDIT**

Also, about SNES emulation...

http://www.snemul.com/ds/

http://www.snesds.com/snesds.htm

Have any of you tested these out? one claims to work at full speed. (ah i see only some games work, very buggy. oh well thats what psps are for)

FatsDomino Nov 3, 2008 10:02 AM

Yeah, back in the day when SDHC cards weren't available you had to choose your 1 gig microSD card wisely or you'd have some games like the Castlevania games which feature big fmv sequences getting all choppy on ya. The 8 GB microSDHC card they sell you at realhotstuff doesn't have any issues with the Castlevania games. Most microSDHC cards along with being higher capacity for storage also are faster than older microSD cards so if you get a microSDHC card you should be fine.

llmercll Jan 5, 2009 06:42 PM

QUESTION!

I got myself a cyclods and ezflash V 3in1 and everything is working well!

the cyclods is amazing and so simple to use, the ezflash was a little more difficult, and i have a few questions on it.

1. I couldn't figure out how to load up gba roms thru the cyclods so i searched the net and found this, GBA Exploder 058a. When I load the cyclo that shows up as a game and when i load it some bootleg menu shows up where i select my GBA game. It works well! but was wondering if that's the ideal/accepted way to load up the gba games, or if there a way to do it straight thru the cyclo or if there is a better option available.

2. can i use cheats with my gba games? ive got no clue and any help would be appreciated.

RacinReaver Jan 5, 2009 07:56 PM

For all non-32MB GBA games you can load up the ROM exactly the same way as you normally would a DS ROM on the Cyclo.

No clue about the cheats as I haven't tried it.

llmercll Jan 5, 2009 08:55 PM

really? that's strange, I don't see them when i load up my cyclo, i always ahve to got hru the gba exploder.

what about gba games larger than 32mb? why 32mb?

RacinReaver Jan 5, 2009 09:01 PM

There's something about the maximum memory the DS can handle while emulating or something like that as to the 32MB limit. The only game I've had to deal with that so far is Mother 3, but then again I haven't played too many GBA games on my DS.

Have you updated your Cyclo firmware recently? I think they added it in a somewhat recent patch. You might also want to try throwing your GBA games into a different folder and see what happens that way. They might even have to be in a folder named GBA, I'm not sure as that's what I have and I'm not sure if I did that for a reason or not.

llmercll Jan 5, 2009 11:09 PM

ill definitely give that a try (when I can find my pc link =P)

just put a folder named GBA on the root of my sd card? and will i see little icons that say GBA game or something?

DeLorean Feb 24, 2009 03:46 PM

I've asked this question before, but it has been about a year and I'm wondering if there is anything out there that I am missing.

I would like something like the R4 that I can download and play DS games on, but also be able to handle NES/SNES/GB/GBC emulators and ROMS. Is there anything stable out there that will do this effectively? I know there is something like it already that really doesn't have a good reputation as far as emulating the older games. Anyone know a good amount about this?

FatsDomino Feb 24, 2009 03:53 PM

The DS can handle NES/GBC/GB pretty well. SNES and Genesis unfortunately are still lacking. It's not the cartridge that you should be worried about but the homebrew and the DS hardware capabilities to support the homebrew.

So just get a CycloDS or something comparable already and maybe in the far future there will be some homebrew that does SNES/Genesis emulation justice.


The one thing that I would like to research one of these days is what cards work with the DSi and if there is anything on the DSi that has been unlocked for homebrew and stuff. I'm not really interested in the DSi and of course with it having firmware that makes tinkering all the more difficult but I'm still curious.

Dhsu Feb 24, 2009 04:03 PM

So far I've seen EZFlash, DSTT, and Acekard with new DSi-compatible models. Cyclo shouldn't be too far behind.

DeLorean Feb 24, 2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 684235)
The DS can handle NES/GBC/GB pretty well. SNES and Genesis unfortunately are still lacking. It's not the cartridge that you should be worried about but the homebrew and the DS hardware capabilities to support the homebrew.

So just get a CycloDS or something comparable already and maybe in the far future there will be some homebrew that does SNES/Genesis emulation justice.


The one thing that I would like to research one of these days is what cards work with the DSi and if there is anything on the DSi that has been unlocked for homebrew and stuff. I'm not really interested in the DSi and of course with it having firmware that makes tinkering all the more difficult but I'm still curious.

You seem to be a fan of CycloDS, so I was hoping to ask you a few questions. I was reading up on their site, and it says under the CycloDS Evolution section "100% compatibility, supports clean ROM's - works on any OS". Are they talking about DS ROMS, or other ROMS, or both?

Do you recommend Evolution, MiniSD, or MicroSD for my purposes? (Playing DS ROMs, and some older systems ROMs is a plus)

Also, there were a bunch of sites listed on "WHERE 2 BUY", none of which I have used before. Recommendations there? Thanks for your time.

Chaotic Feb 24, 2009 06:21 PM

For the Cyclo Evolution, you could basically just download the ROM and just drag it in to your micro SD. No need to flash em' or anything.

Cyclos only accept Micro SDs and emulation on it is a little iffy. I haven't really bothered with any of it.

I got mine off of Real Hot Stuff, where they're running a deal with the Cyclo and a 2 gig micro SD starting at $49.

FatsDomino Feb 24, 2009 08:06 PM

When I refer to the CycloDS I'm always talking about the Evolution. The other two are pretty asstastic. Evolution is pretty awesome though. The cards Dhsu mentioned should be great as well. And by roms they mean .nds roms which are Nintendo DS roms. There are homebrew .nds files that may be emulators though. I have one for GB/GBC roms that is pretty good. The NES emulator that I've tried works but requires more work than it should. I'd honestly just skip on pretty much all emulation besides GB/GBC but feel free to go test stuff yourself and come to your own conclusions.

Chaotic Feb 24, 2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 684298)
I have one for GB/GBC roms that is pretty good.

Ooh, mind linking me to this, Acer? I'm feeling a nostalgia wave with Pokemon TCG.

FatsDomino Feb 24, 2009 08:14 PM

Lameboy - PHWiki

You might have some very slight slowdown in some games but for the most part everything works well and is very playable.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 28, 2009 04:07 AM

Don't own any DS, but might soon. Anyway, do you think the new DSi will be able to play GBA games using this homebrew stuff or no? If not, then I would get the DS Lite for sure.

Chaotic Feb 28, 2009 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BZ (Post 685227)
Don't own any DS, but might soon. Anyway, do you think the new DSi will be able to play GBA games using this homebrew stuff or no? If not, then I would get the DS Lite for sure.

Doubt it, since not many DS Flashcarts play GBA games to begin with. Stick with the DS Lite.

mortis Feb 28, 2009 09:40 AM

Plus, although this knowledge may be dated, there were some issues getting DSi's to work with "stuff".

Krelian Feb 28, 2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BZ (Post 685227)
Don't own any DS, but might soon. Anyway, do you think the new DSi will be able to play GBA games using this homebrew stuff or no? If not, then I would get the DS Lite for sure.

There are only a few DSi-compatible flashcarts right now. If anything, I'd say wait until flashcarts are totally unnecessary - the thing has an SD slot; I'd wager an exploit will be found before very long.

To answer your question, no, I don't reckon it'll ever be able to play GBA games. The GBA slot isn't present on the new hardware, so it stands to reason that it's lacking the requisite software/firmware, too.

DeLorean Feb 28, 2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrelEN (Post 685269)
There are only a few DSi-compatible flashcarts right now. If anything, I'd say wait until flashcarts are totally unnecessary - the thing has an SD slot; I'd wager an exploit will be found before very long.

To answer your question, no, I don't reckon it'll ever be able to play GBA games. The GBA slot isn't present on the new hardware, so it stands to reason that it's lacking the requisite software/firmware, too.

Isn't it possible to run a homebrew GBA emulator though? I'm probably missing something here, I'm pretty new to these applications.

Krelian Feb 28, 2009 10:53 AM

Theoretically, yes. However, because the games would be running through an emulation layer and not natively on the hardware, it'd be about as fast as wading through molasses.

DeLorean Feb 28, 2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrelEN (Post 685273)
Theoretically, yes. However, because the games would be running through an emulation layer and not natively on the hardware, it'd be about as fast as wading through molasses.

Ah, I see I see. So someone would have to make a GBA emulator designed to run on the DS... which is unlikely I guess. Good thing I have a rockin' DS Lite!!

FatsDomino Feb 28, 2009 03:13 PM

Yeah, if you want to be doing homebrew or playing DS roms I'd really avoid the DSi right now. Plus the whole thing is pretty lame. It costs more and you lose features and have to jump through unnecessary hoops. Just get a DS lite.

And I wouldn't ever expect a GBA emulator on the DS (especially one that actually works well). I mean the DSi might supply a need for one but I really have my doubts. Don't go buying a DSi expecting one in the future.

Dark Nation Feb 28, 2009 04:14 PM

For those living in Japan, you will no longer be able to legally purchase the R4. There's not enough information to go by to see if it affects other similar carts or if R4 is just targeted for being the biggest/most popular brand, or if it affects sales in other regions. Still, there you have it, no more R4 for Japanese consumers.

Sources:
Nintendo: Japanese Court Blocks Sales Of The DS's R4 Cart
Tokyo District Court bans R4 flash carts for DS, news, DS news, PocketGamer.biz
bit-tech.net | Nintendo blocks sale of R4 carts in Japan

Grundlefield Earth Feb 28, 2009 07:06 PM

Well don't they sell these under non-japanese websites correct?

Additional Spam:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 655704)
I wish folks would read the last few pages of a topic they seem to be interested in. It might help them a bit what with the information they might contain. =/

That said the cyclo is the better of those choices. It'll even do GBC and Master System emulation. In order to play GBA games you will require a slot 2 device.

My recommendation to you is a Cyclo DS Evolution and an EZ 3 in 1 slot 2 card (ezflash V).

Here, I'll even give you my recommended place for buying these things:

Cyclo: CycloDS Evolution, CycloDS, Cyclo DS Evo

ezflash V (assuming you have a ds lite): EZ Flash Expansion 3 in 1


Further advice should you decide to purchase these: Don't use the piece of shit USB microSD transfer device that comes with the Cyclo. I've bought four Cyclos and that piece of crap USB device fucks up the microSD card just about every time. Use the USB transfer device that comes with your microSD card instead. I've had no problems with the 8 GB microHCSD cards they offer you with your purchase. It's worth it.

Ok If I go this option. One question I have is, how much space is the 2gb micro sd card? Probably already mentioned somewhere in this thread, but what is the average and/or maximum size of a DS game in MB? I am just wondering how many games a 2gb can hold.
And is this the crap USB device you mention on the bottom? http://gbatemp.net/reviews/cyclods/PICT3999.JPG

So you are saying I have to buy an additional memory card to get some other USB transfer device? I bought a flash memory card for my GPS before, and it didnt come with no transfer device (i just used the usb cable that came with the device). I am not following you exactly. sorry

Vemp Feb 28, 2009 07:29 PM

DS roms usually range from 8mb - 128mb (usually RPGs). I think acer means that you should use the USB adapter that comes with the micro sd card rather than the one that comes with the Cyclo. Since in that picture it's only the cart & adapter, I'm guessing you need to buy a micro sd card separately. (I'm using M3 Real btw)

Grundlefield Earth Feb 28, 2009 07:37 PM

But it doesnt even say anything about the usb adapter with sd card here. CycloDS Evolution, CycloDS, Cyclo DS Evo

Does it come with the Kingston 2gb?

If not this one 4 gb will be fine right. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134794

RacinReaver Mar 1, 2009 12:16 AM

The adapter that came with my CycloDS has worked perfectly fine for me. I think the first generation of USB adapters they bundled with it had a pretty high defect rate, but I bought mine a bit later and it's been perfectly happy.

Also, typically microSD cards will come bundled with a card the size of a normal-SD card which the microSD chip can slide into, and thus have its info transferred back and forth to the PC like any normal SD card.

That 4GB card will work fine with any Cyclo, though it won't work with older devices which don't support SDHC.

FatsDomino Mar 1, 2009 12:41 AM

Yeah, realhotstuff sells sdhc cards on their website. Those things come with a very good adapter if you're hesitant on using the one that comes with your cyclo. Honestly, just bite the bullet and get an 8 gb sdhc card. That way you'll have plenty of room for your games, homebrew, and even music if you so choose. I have 100 plus DS games, 40 plus GBA games, and plenty of homebrew with a decent amount of room to spare on my 8 gb microsdhc card. 2 gigs will get you like 20 to 40 games. That's reasonable enough for most folks but I like being able to have just about everything I'd want on my DS on one card without really worrying about space.

Grundlefield Earth Mar 1, 2009 12:50 AM

I bought the 4gb kingston. So that is 2+4 = 6. Should be more then enough space. I mean it doesn't seem hard to switch cards anyway.

Anyways I think I am going to go with the Crimson Red Dslite.

Krelian Mar 1, 2009 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 685378)
Yeah, realhotstuff sells sdhc cards on their website. Those things come with a very good adapter if you're hesitant on using the one that comes with your cyclo. Honestly, just bite the bullet and get an 8 gb sdhc card. That way you'll have plenty of room for your games, homebrew, and even music if you so choose. I have 100 plus DS games, 40 plus GBA games, and plenty of homebrew with a decent amount of room to spare on my 8 gb microsdhc card. 2 gigs will get you like 20 to 40 games. That's reasonable enough for most folks but I like being able to have just about everything I'd want on my DS on one card without really worrying about space.

What slot-2 solution are you using that you're storing GBA roms on the SD card, Acer?

Grundlefield Earth Mar 1, 2009 01:45 AM

I think he said the EZ Flash Expansion 3 in 1

How is the 3 in 1 ez expansion compatible with the Opera web browser by the way? Doesnt the browser have to go in this slot. Or is the web browser already part of the EZ flash expansion?

FatsDomino Mar 1, 2009 03:14 AM

ez 3 in 1 is just a gba card that allows for a bit of storage (the minimum you'll need for the largest of gba games) and also does rumble (even though rumble kind of sucks and is fucking loud). I honestly wouldn't bother with the opera browser. More trouble than its worth.

Basically with your Cyclo it will load any gba games onto the ez 3 in 1 and play them from the slot 2 while transferring any save data from slot 2 to slot 1. It's kind of clever like that.

Grundlefield Earth Mar 2, 2009 02:37 AM

Well I ordered EZ 3 in 1 plus and I have just been reading some compatibility issues with the existing Cyclo firmware. Something with PSRAM and NOR, which I don't know anything about. So hopefully I can still play GBA games and keep my saves.

Doesn't one of these (PSRAM or NOR) not keep your save after powering off? What is the point of that anyway, cause who doesn't want to save heh. I assume you can have multiple saves from multiple games with one of the rams?

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 02:40 AM

Haven't had any trouble using my EZ3in1 with my Cyclo Evo. Don't think there's compatibility issue, so much as the memory issue where you can't play large roms without writing them to NOR. Which, you know, is simple and not a big deal at all, but trust the internet to make it seem like a flaw. Everyone who plays more than 5 minutes a time uses NOR anyway.

Also yes, you can write a rom to NOR and the cart will function like a regular GBA cart till you write something else on it. You could put the cart into a regular GBA (assuming you don't have the tiny EZ) and it'd work. I backup my saves every now and then just to be safe though.

Grundlefield Earth Mar 2, 2009 02:43 AM

I said PLUS. Its a little different supposedly.

Additional Spam:
And so if I want to play two GBA games at a time. I have to backup the original save, as the second game save will write over the save from the first game?

I'm sure I will figure everything out when I get my hands on it anyway =p

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 02:54 AM

Ah, well I'm not sure if that's a completely different model or do they just mean the smaller version that doesn't stick out of a Lite (which I have). Reading some discussion, they mainly complain about browser and rumble support, which wouldn't be a big loss, GBA seems to work.

Another complaint seems to be having to use GBAExploader, which I personally don't see as a problem as GBAExploader is great anyway. You can load roms through the Cyclo interface, but backing up saves and such is recommended through GBA Exploader.

FatsDomino Mar 2, 2009 09:34 AM

From what I understand it's great to use the GBAExploader to clear your PSRAM and NOR but if you're using a Cyclo you'll have issues loading and playing games via GBAExploader. At least that's the case with Mother 3. Clear your NOR with GBAExploader and load the rom into NOR with the Cyclo's built-in GBA utility. That way you know your GBA saves will be synced with your Cyclo and not get constant save errors.

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 09:38 AM

I played through the whole game after loading it to NOR with GBAExploader and didn't get a single issue =|
(played a number of other titles using SRAM while the NOR was still loaded with the rom as well)

FatsDomino Mar 2, 2009 09:49 AM

I've had nothing but trouble using GBAExploader. I know Rudolph is supposedly working with Team Cyclops to get it working better though. Maybe a newer version has come out.

Additional Spam:
Yeah, Q, do you have the built-in GBA loader for the Cyclo turned off by any chance?

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 10:42 AM

I seem to have the GBA support BETA enabled (v1.41 firmware). I remember I originally loaded the Mother 3 rom to NOR using the cyclo, as I hadn't even heard of GBAExploader. Upon realising I needed something to actually handle my roms and saves, I got the GBAexploader and loaded Mother 3 through that. I also played Rhythm Tengoku from NOR before buying the actual cart, so it's not just Mother 3.

Otherwise I've loaded smaller roms to SRAM and both the cyclo's loader and GBAExploader have worked without a problem.

FatsDomino Mar 2, 2009 11:16 AM

But did you send the game rom through GBAExploader to NOR or did you send the game rom to NOR using the built-in GBA support via the Cyclo? Loading the rom and sending to NOR are completely different things and depending on how you do it both the GBAExploader and built-in GBA support will get mighty pissed at you when you try to load your save data.

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 03:48 PM

Let me rephrase that, then. I originally "sent" the rom to NOR through the cyclo menu, but after installing GBAExploader, I erased and "resent" the rom to NOR through GBAExploader. No issues whatsoever. After that I've "sent" Rhythm Tengoku to NOR through GBAExploader and played it without issues.

FatsDomino Mar 2, 2009 03:57 PM

Burrr... well I'm telling you something can go screwy so uh uh WATCH OUT.

map car man words telling me to do things Mar 2, 2009 04:31 PM

BEWARE THE EXLOADING LISTEM

IT NAMES THE DOOMED, IT DOES

FatsDomino Mar 2, 2009 04:33 PM

IT DID SPY UPON THE SHORE

THE GATES OF PIRATE GOLD

BUT A SHEPARD BLOCKS THE WAY

NOR NOR NOR NOR NOR NOR

S_K Mar 2, 2009 08:09 PM

Well I'm more then a little late posting here but I thought I should make some input since I got the EDGE for christmas.

I haven't used other flash cards before but I'm willing to wager this is one of the basic models out there since there's no extras like a turbo feature, but it emulates fine, can take up to 32 gig cards, has built in cheat codes and seems pretty compatable with the homebrews too even though it's a cheap card.

I've read about people complaining saying the cart sticks out but that's never happened to me. The only problems I've had with it so far is sometimes I have to reinsert it before it kicks in, and it seems to write save files in it's own format that no other emulator can read.

S_K Mar 23, 2009 12:59 PM

News on the Homebrew scene, the long time broken BEUP MSN Messenger client has been updated and can be downloaded here

Features include fully customisable avatars, emicons and even the touch screen keyboard if you have the patience to mess around with it.

RYU Mar 29, 2009 03:52 AM

my friend want to buy DSi,which flashcard will be working with it?

Edit:Acekard 2i is the best?and will working usa version?

Chaotic Mar 29, 2009 03:59 AM

According to what I've read, none of them.

However, the only breakthrough I've seen is through DSi in Australia.

[ source ]

Edit: The problem with that, Ryu, is that the DSi isn't out here in the US. None of us would really know. :(

Dhsu Mar 29, 2009 04:25 AM

I can just see people importing Australian DSis now...that would be an amusing turn of events.

RYU Mar 29, 2009 04:59 AM

I see,thanks for info

Buizel Mar 29, 2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Luxray (Post 692452)
According to what I've read, none of them.

I guess you need to read more places because there's cards that works since it was release in Japan. XP

Cards out there that have an "i" on their name works... for now (ie. Acekard2i). But with the DSi "new features" future firmware upgrade can render the flashcard unusable.

S_K Mar 30, 2009 12:24 PM

I swear Nintendo said all the dsi games would be backwards compatable? If so then that means all you're paying for with dsi is the right to have downloads a camera and a SD card slot. Not to sound like the thread title, but I'm pretty sure at least 2 of those things on that list are already covered by homebrew =/

Dhsu Mar 30, 2009 12:48 PM

Well, I doubt homebrew will allow you to access DSiWare, which is the biggest draw IMO. The DSi is also smaller, so that might be a factor for people with inferior pocket space. :P

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Originally Posted by Buizel (Post 692492)
I guess you need to read more places because there's cards that works since it was release in Japan. XP

Apparently they only work for Japanese DSis though, as they're incompatible with European ones (I think RYU is in Germany). So there's no guarantee they'll work with US units either.

RacinReaver Mar 31, 2009 01:11 PM

Jesus, the DSi is even smaller? I'd wind up crushing that thing with my massive GAJIN HANDS. My hands already cramp with my Lite.

Buizel Apr 3, 2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 692683)
Apparently they only work for Japanese DSis though, as they're incompatible with European ones (I think RYU is in Germany). So there's no guarantee they'll work with US units either.

Apparently it works now (including Europe too!). I'm sure other flashcard will follow.

Kilroy Apr 4, 2009 03:23 AM

I haven't really got a clue about this stuff, so please bear with me.
I want to do simple emulation like NES, SNES and stuff like that (and perhaps try what that Mother 3 is all about).
Is that R4 enough? It's the only card I've really heard about, but then again, I haven't read this thread so I might've missed things.

FatsDomino Apr 4, 2009 08:44 AM

Skim through the thread. At least the 5 lastest pages. Is it that hard to do?

Anyway the R4 sucks donkey nuts. SNES emulation isn't that great. NES emulation is alright but could be better. If you want to play GBA games you need a slot 2 device. My recommendation as always is the Cyclo DS Evolution with a EZ 3-in-1 slot 2 device. Don't even try using these on the DSi right now until a proper solution is made. Have a nice day.

Kilroy Apr 4, 2009 12:07 PM

I will read through the thread later, but right now the olde english is distracting me greatly. Too many forsooths.

S_K Apr 15, 2009 02:40 PM

Once again europe appears to have been screwed over, I just tried searching further information on flash cards for a friend and it seems all UK based stores have removed their stock completly. Why the hate Nintendo? You're treating us like we invented piracy or something ;_;

Krelian Apr 15, 2009 03:52 PM

One of my brother's ecommerce clients was a UK-based flashcart shop. He received an angry C&D letter and had all of his stock seized a few months back. Now he's on the verge of going out of business.

It's fucking impossible to find somewhere to buy a flashcart these days - hopefully by the time I pick up a DSi, the need for them will have disappeared completely, and we'll be able to load games from the SD slot...

OmagnusPrime Apr 16, 2009 06:51 AM

You know if you want to go and pirate games, that's your choice so have at you, but I really don't see how why you should expect people to make it easy for you? Do you go around complaining that people lock their front doors too, because if they just left them open it'd be so much easier to steal people's stuff?

Krelian Apr 16, 2009 07:07 AM

hurr durr equating piracy with stealing a physical object

hurr durr

verily, durr

OmagnusPrime Apr 16, 2009 07:24 AM

Actually I was just drawing a parallel to highlight the rather silly nature of the argument, but suit yourself. And since it isn't clear, I'm not passing judgement on the act, I'm saying the argument that people shouldn't be trying to make it harder for you to pirate stuff is stupid. They shouldn't strip away your rights to achieve that (hello DRM), but they shouldn't be expected to make it easy for you.

Krelian Apr 16, 2009 07:36 AM

That's fair enough, but pulling out the "WELL YOU MIGHT AS WELL ABSCOND WITH MISTER MIYAMOTO'S TELEVISION" analogy is just a teensy bit of a straw man. Besides, all DRM does is make scene kiddies all the more vocal in their piracy efforts, which in turn steps up DRM measures, which itself in turn encourages pirates, which...

The issue here is that although the devices in question can be used for piracy - oh, who am I kidding, everyone who owns a flashcart uses it for piracy - it's not their sole application, which is why people got away with manufacturing and selling them in the first place. Nintendo's attempts to stamp them out represents a weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard in that respect. It makes about as much sense as Sony raging against manufacturers of CD burners.

(okay, that was stupid and exaggerated as all hell, but I think I heard about something like that occurring in the days of chipped PS1s)

OmagnusPrime Apr 16, 2009 07:47 AM

Care to explaim Nintendo's "weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard" because I'm not following? When were Nintendo pirating stuff, did I miss that news story?

Thing is as weak as any analogy talking about physical theft is, it's a hundred times stronger an argument than the feeble crap people come out with to justify piracy to themselves. I've no great issue with it, but let's call a spade a spade shall we: you want something and either you don't have the means or inclination to pay for it. Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.

S_K Apr 16, 2009 08:04 AM

Since I brought the topic up, I'd just like to reliterate I'm not mad about the fact they're countering selling flash cards. I'm annoyed that as is often the case people in the EU are some of the first to get singled out, as if we're the root of the problem when we're not.

Krelian Apr 16, 2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OP
Care to explaim Nintendo's "weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard" because I'm not following? When were Nintendo pirating stuff, did I miss that news story?

Sorry, I was a little vague. There were a few things I meant by that:

The fact that they're going after the resellers of slot-1 devices and not the manufacturers/wholesale vendors bugs me. The devices themselves are perfectly legal (as far as I know, anyway - I've not heard anything about them getting uppity about patent infringement or similar), and frankly, they're intervening at the wrong part of the supply chain. Shopowners are getting screwed over by this method of dealing with the issue, while the original sellers of the carts are still in business. The only flashcart whose manufacturers have been directly squashed is the R4, and they're apparently not pursuing action against the others for whatever reason. Maybe because they're not quite so synonymous with piracy. Hell, the packaging on the devices mentions nothing about piracy whatsoever - every slot-1 solution available now is marketed by both the manufacturers and the resellers as a "portable media solution", and touts AV/ebook capabilities as their only noteworthy features. Some of them don't even ship with the firmware necessary for loading ROMs. It's very crafty and skirts conveniently around the issue.

Also; that they're choosing to intervene so heavily in one of their biggest legit markets, and ignoring others that thrive on piracy alone is a little odd. While I was living in Chile there were at least two shops selling flashcarts within walking distance of my flat. I hear the situation's similar in eastern Europe and central Asia.

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Thing is as weak as any analogy talking about physical theft is, it's a hundred times stronger an argument than the feeble crap people come out with to justify piracy to themselves. I've no great issue with it, but let's call a spade a spade shall we: you want something and either you don't have the means or inclination to pay for it. Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.
There's nothing noble here - not in the least. I'm just an impoverished asshole and I like freebies. That's as far as my "justification" goes. The only time I ever even come close to defending the piracy issue is when it's equated with simple thievery.

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Originally Posted by S_K
Since I brought the topic up, I'd just like to reliterate I'm not mad about the fact they're countering selling flash cards. I'm annoyed that as is often the case people in the EU are some of the first to get singled out, as if we're the root of the problem when we're not.

Yeah, this is just Europe getting buggered over again - this time in a slightly dodgy capacity. Count it as a personal grievance with no bearing on the argument at hand, but as I said above, they're demonising the wrong part of the world.

FatsDomino Apr 16, 2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 697105)
Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.

I, Duke Keefe Maraudington III, take great offense to your dispute of my god given right and noble duty to convey the joys and woes of my business and celebrate the wondrous and righteous spectacle that they truly are.

Aardark Apr 16, 2009 08:30 AM

Hah, I just got a CycloDS from the UK a couple of days ago. Now the store has them marked as temporarily unavailable. Glad I made it in time to contribute to Nintendo going out of business, I guess.

Lukage Apr 16, 2009 07:48 PM

As much as you think you're "sticking it to the man," the DS still prints money and is still making them bigtime bucks.

Aardark Apr 16, 2009 10:04 PM

H-holy shit... you're right... why didn't I realise sooner?!

map car man words telling me to do things Apr 17, 2009 03:21 AM

yeah i mean it's totally only fair now

Krelian Apr 17, 2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vulpix (Post 697188)
As much as you think you're "sticking it to the man," the DS still prints money and is still making them bigtime bucks.

I don't know anyone who uses "sticking it to the man" as their rationale behind piracy. The act doesn't create a negative cashflow, you cock.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Apr 17, 2009 07:11 AM

Well it does mean that the sunk costs per unit are higher than if you'd bought a copy and piracy is a demotivating factor in future game development.

Just saying.

FatsDomino Apr 17, 2009 07:57 AM

What if I bought all my games but then gave them back to the local GameStop immediately under a myriad of disguises, got my money back or "store credit" and continued to use this "store credit" for new games to become returned games to be sold as used games and perhaps even used this "store credit" to buy these used games and then sold them as new games with the help of some saran wrap and a hair dryer thus making profit AND ON TOP OF THAT I STILL PIRATED THE GAME?

http://www.thegond.com/rp/madscientist.jpg

Zergrinch Apr 17, 2009 08:45 AM

That just might show the Big N!

That is, if they sell through consignment...

Congle line of abuse. Or is that conga-line. Or congaline. May 2, 2009 11:19 PM

2009 DS Storage Devices...
 
So apparently DS-X, the product I have been looking at for such needs as running back-ups, has been "abandoned" by it's makers since 2007.

So, uh, can I get some advice on the subject? I mostly just want to run back-ups. Also, I don't mind upgarding to a lite, but I'm not sure that's important...

Hey, thanks guys.

Dhsu May 3, 2009 03:36 AM

Well I'm going to assume you've ruled out the Cyclo DS since if you've read even a single post at random in this thread there's at least an 80% chance it's a recommendation for the Cyclo DS, or someone asking what card to get, followed by a recommendation for the Cyclo DS.

So, I'm going to recommend this. Sure you can get that combo for less than half that price at DealExtreme, but it'll take you like 2 months to get it.

Infernal Monkey May 3, 2009 04:00 AM

I have a 2GB M3 Real if anyone wants it. Free! It's got Imagine Figure Skater on it and everything.

Congle line of abuse. Or is that conga-line. Or congaline. May 3, 2009 07:14 PM

To all who where involved in my previous post: thank you. My question was answered and I got the advice I needed, though only through my lazy posting did this occur. As proof of my sincerity I promise not to make another post here for at least a month.

Seriously, thank you and you're welcome.

mortis May 3, 2009 07:43 PM

A free M3Real? wow, that would be far better than, well, anything I have...

seanne Sep 29, 2009 01:19 PM

I need to get one of these '3 in 1' things, I'm thinking this is the best to get to go along with a cyclo ds? Only problem is that rhs feels the need to charge me $27 to ship a gba cartridge, so does anyone know of another (reliable) retailer I could have a look at?

Also, not quite sure what these tech terms refer to: 512Mbit NOR Flash memory, 128 Mb (16 MB) of PSRAM, 4 Mb (512 KB) of battery backed SRAM for save data. Aren't the games and save states stored on the micro sd inside the cyclo ds?

RacinReaver Sep 29, 2009 02:47 PM

Where are you they're charging $27 in shipping? I've bought from RHS stuff before and I recall it being pretty reasonable.

Anyway, I think the SRAM is there for when you flash a game onto the 3 in 1 instead of playing it directly off of your Slot 1 device. This would let you launch the game directly from the DS's boot menu, but is also required in some cases (Mother 3 is the only one I know of).

Dhsu Sep 29, 2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seanne (Post 727373)
I need to get one of these '3 in 1' things, I'm thinking this is the best to get to go along with a cyclo ds?

You would be correct, as the Evo has native support for that particular brand of expandy thing.

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Only problem is that rhs feels the need to charge me $27 to ship a gba cart, so does anyone know of another (reliable) retailer I could have a look at?
I haven't had any problems with these guys, although from what I've heard from a few people, "reliable" may be a slight overstatement - DealExtreme: $18.40 EZFlash 3-in-1 Memory Expansion Pack for NDS Lite

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Also, not quite sure what these tech terms refer to: 512Mbit NOR Flash memory, 128 Mb (16 MB) of PSRAM, 4 Mb (512 KB) of battery backed SRAM for save data. Aren't the games and save states stored on the micro sd inside the cyclo ds?
NOR Flash is non-volatile, meaning you can play it without a flashcart in the DS (in fact, if you get the GBA-sized version or buy a GBA shell separately, it will play normally as a stand-alone GBA cart). PSRAM is volatile, so it's erased every time you restart your DS, but it's faster than burning a ROM onto the NOR memory, so if you change games often it's a better option. Since it's only 16MB though, you won't be able to use it for larger GBA games such as Kingdom Hearts or Mother 3 IIRC.

seanne Sep 30, 2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 727392)
Where are you they're charging $27 in shipping? I've bought from RHS stuff before and I recall it being pretty reasonable.

It's probably just because I live overseas.

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Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 727397)
I haven't had any problems with these guys, although from what I've heard from a few people, "reliable" may be a slight overstatement - DealExtreme: $18.40 EZFlash 3-in-1 Memory Expansion Pack for NDS Lite

That place seems fine, actually. Can't go wrong with free shipping either. Though it seems the only version of this cartridge they have has only 256 MB of NOR, but I guess that translates to an even 32 MBs (which I believe is the size for the largest GBA games), doesn't it?

Thanks for the help guys. Just one more things. 512 kb for save games doesn't seem like very much since most GBA save files seem to be 64 kb. Sounds like it would be a problem?

Dhsu Sep 30, 2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by seanne (Post 727619)
Though it seems the only version of this cartridge they have has only 256 MB of NOR, but I guess that translates to an even 32 MBs (which I believe is the size for the largest GBA games), doesn't it?

Yeah, I haven't seen any GBA ROMs larger than that.

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Thanks for the help guys. Just one more things. 512 kb for save games doesn't seem like very much since most GBA save files seem to be 64 kb. Sounds like it would be a problem?
This is only for the game you're currently playing. Like you said, the saves are automatically backed up to and loaded from your microSD card, but if for example you're playing a game you burned onto the NOR flash without a flashcard, the battery-backed memory will keep your save, erm...saved until you use your Evolution again.

seanne Sep 30, 2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 727623)
This is only for the game you're currently playing. Like you said, the saves are automatically backed up to and loaded from your microSD card, but if for example you're playing a game you burned onto the NOR flash without a flashcard, the battery-backed memory will keep your save, erm...saved until you use your Evolution again.

Ah, I see, that's fine then since I always have my cyclo ds inserted. What happens when the battery dies though, since it seems to be soldered down, will the saving still function?

Dhsu Sep 30, 2009 01:46 PM

GUIDE: Change your EZFlash 3-in-1 Battery (w/ PICS) - GBAtemp.net

seanne Sep 30, 2009 05:58 PM

Alright, that seems easy enough. Thanks a lot for your help Dhsu, I just ordered one from that DX place.

seanne Oct 20, 2009 01:22 PM

So I got the thing in the mail today but can't seem to get it to work (I'm using cycloDS ver. 1.55). I put a bunch of .gba files on the microSD card but how exactly do I load them? They don't show up under Games/Homebrew like .nds files.

I would try using GBA ExpLoader (though I was under the impression that the cycloDS would be able to handle GBA games on it's own these days), but the links on the blog don't seem to work...

RacinReaver Oct 20, 2009 01:47 PM

I think there's somewhere in the Options menu on the Cyclo where you have to turn on GBA games showing up. I think it's because not everyone has one of the 3-in-1 guys, so they don't want it on by default.

seanne Oct 20, 2009 02:05 PM

Yeah I remember there used to be an option for that on older firmware versions but I'm not seeing it with ver.1.55. In the settings/misc menu there's; cheat codes, save mode, battery saver, lcd brightness, language, skin, rumble and 'boot from slot 2'.

Sousuke Oct 20, 2009 02:07 PM

Yeah, in the options there's a 'Load from Slot-2' option. You still need a slot-2 device to run GBA titles, though.

If the Cyclo can run GBA games without one though, I stand corrected. Would be nice, though.

FatsDomino Oct 20, 2009 02:21 PM

Nope, you will always need to use a slot-2 device to play GBA games. Well at least for now. There doesn't seem to be any indication that will ever change though.

seanne Oct 20, 2009 03:15 PM

I'm using an EZ Flash 3 in 1. 128 MB version I believe, not the newer 'plus' version.

edit: Right, it seems you had to manually change a value in the CycloDS\config.xml file -.-


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