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Elixir Aug 2, 2006 03:26 AM

Melty Blood: Act Cadenza
 
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Melty blood makes use of widely used concepts in fighting games such as cancels (cancelling an attack before its animation ends, then beginning another, allowing for more complex and damaging combos) chain combos (normal moves that can be link without the use of cancels) and the use of power bars (called Magic circuits in-game). Magic circuits serve more purposes than just allowing the execution of special moves. Chain combos are much easier to perform in comparison to other games, and it also brings other interesting features like simultaneous impacts and dash shielding among others. In addition, it brings the original concept of Shielding into gameplay.

Shielding is an advanced form of guarding. By tapping the shield button right before the moment of impact, the player cancels the opponent's attack, leaving the opponent wide open to attack. There are also Shield-only EX moves called "Last arcs." Last arcs are powerful attacks that cannot be blocked; they are activated automatically if the character shields while in "Blood heat" mode.

"Blood heat" mode is one of the variations of the magic circuit, the other being simply heat mode. A much more detailed explanation:

As mentioned earlier,Magic circuits work differently than in other fighting games. Magic circuits fill up with every connected attack the character performs,once the gauge reaches 300% the character goes automatically into Heat mode. While in heat mode the player can execute an Arc drive. An Arc Drive is an extremely damaging EX move which depletes the bar of the Magic Circuit gauge completely. Miyako Arima is the only exception, using just 150%. while the player is in heat mode he has the option of activating "Blood heat".Blood heat mode gives the player the ability to execute a much more damaging Arc drive,or activate the previously mentioned "Last arcs".Also,if the player has activated Blood Heat mode,the life gauge of his or her character will start to recover moderately fast,as long he/she is not guarding.

Other features used in Melty blood include:

Simultaneous impacts: serves as another canceling technique,if 2 characters hit each other at the same time they will cancel each other out,however the counter-attacks array that can be performed is very limited.

Dash Shielding: some Dash animations have a certain number of defense frames,if the opponent attacks the character while these certain frames are still activated,his/her attack is cancelled.

Aerial recovery: this can only be performed once your character has been thrown into the air and is falling towards the ground by tapping any button.by doing so the character will recover his/her standing animation and grant temporary invulnerability,mostly used to prevent an opponent from comboing.
I'm thinking of importing this. After a few videos I'm convinced that it's a great game, which greatly resembles Guilty Gear's feel. The expected release date is august the 10th, so roughly in 9 days time.

chato Aug 2, 2006 07:34 AM

This is definately what I wanted after a few years of playing the original,reACT and Final Tuned of the MB series. I hope they add a few more moves though.. They really need it . Combos are awesome at least.

If this goes well, I hope they do a crossover of Fate Stay Night and MB. It could happen ;p.

Kesubei Aug 2, 2006 04:50 PM

This game did pretty well in the Japanese arcades, which surprises me considering that Re-ACT isn't all that different. It's a solid fighting game, though a little easy to make combos compared to Guilty Gear. Knowing anything about Tsukihime increases the enjoyment. If you're into the pirating thing, you could download the original and Re-ACT to give the game a try before you get on PS2.

Cirno Aug 3, 2006 12:42 AM

Being the Type-Moon whore that I am, I've been waiting for this for a while. I think ness already ordered his. I need to do the same.

Single Elbow Aug 3, 2006 01:41 AM

I presume this won't get localized, correct?

Elixir Aug 3, 2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurado
Being the Type-Moon whore that I am, I've been waiting for this for a while. I think ness already ordered his. I need to do the same.

Don't you mean ness will "download" the game.

If you order it, I'll definitely import it as well. I'm sick of importing alone. I'm not really interested in Tsukihime at all, but the fighting system (like I said, which resembles Guilty Gear in a large manner) alone makes me want to purchase this.

Dhsu Aug 3, 2006 10:18 AM

Looking forward to this one. Hopefully the pixeliness will be less noticeable on a TV. :)

NES Oldskooler Aug 3, 2006 07:49 PM

I tried this game out, but I really couldn't get into it.

The game really feels like a cheap rip off of Guilty Gear made in one of those fighting game maker programs like MUGEN. I suppose I can be happy for the game creators because their fan made game ended up getting pretty popular, but I don't see much appeal to it.

My main problem with the game is that there are only a handful of characters, half of which are duplicates of each other, and the designs are really bland. I suppose after seeing probably a dozen Ryu clones in Capcom's games, that could be forgivable, but the doesn't have much originality to it either. It has the pace of Guilty Gear, the parrying of Street Fighter 3, but the package doesn't quite come together in my opinion.

Cirno Aug 4, 2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
Don't you mean ness will "download" the game.

If you order it, I'll definitely import it as well. I'm sick of importing alone. I'm not really interested in Tsukihime at all, but the fighting system (like I said, which resembles Guilty Gear in a large manner) alone makes me want to purchase this.

ness is downloading it? He told me he was buying it! ness!

Also, I've only played Melty Blood and not the sequel/add-ons. I liked the gameplay there, even if it was a simplified Guilty Gear. Still fun to play, and even moreso if you're a fan of the series.

Dhsu Aug 4, 2006 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NES Oldskooler
My main problem with the game is that there are only a handful of characters, half of which are duplicates of each other, and the designs are really bland.

Well, compared to Guilty Gear, pretty much any game's character designs are going to look bland. :P

Still, you can't tell me that Nero doesn't look awesome!

Elixir Aug 5, 2006 04:24 AM

Apparently he's buying it after all.

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It's a solid fighting game, though a little easy to make combos compared to Guilty Gear.
I've heard that the combos are really, really easy to pull off. But that doesn't sound like a bad thing. I was skeptical at first but after seeing an endless amount of videos, the style looks awesome. I don't really enjoy fighters (2D or 3D) that're complex in their characters, which is why I've always been a fan of SNK titles.

A bonus for me is that one of my friends is also going to order this game from play-asia in a few weeks (when he isn't spending it on everything else coming out this month), so it doesn't really matter if the AI sucks.

I'll probably preorder this tomorrow.

Burp Aug 6, 2006 01:02 AM

Be prepared for Sion infinite!

I love MBRA, i got MB Re-Act Final Tuned on my PC and its maybe the best 2D Fighting game on PC with GGXXR and Eternal Fighter Zero.

Still, this game will never be released in US, not even a "originally Doujin fighting game based on a SLG Renai game"

Still, the best thing about MBAC on PS2 is just to bring something "fresh" to the fighting scene at least and im very sure that it will sold very good in Japan because this game is absolutely popular in the Japanese Arcade scene... still, im worried about the quality of the PS2 port because this game is originally running on NAOMI GD-ROM board and almost all NAOMI ports to PS2 got horrible in graphics, specially Capcom vs SNK 2 and Virtua Tennis 2... sigh, if this only were released on Dreamcast...

By the way, you can download some awesome fights on Game Chariot Movies, an Arcade center were the fights of the Tougeki Super Battle Opera 2006 were taken. I specially love this.

TheFrenchLlama Aug 6, 2006 02:49 AM

Hohoho~

I loves me some Melty Blood. I played ReACT a bit last year, but never really got back into it once I got a new computer and lost the install discs. The friends I play Guilty Gear with quite often will be getting into this as well, possibly making it our secondary game of choice (GG being first, of course).

I already pre-ordered my copy from Play-Asia. Next day shipping for a grand total of $84. @_@ Worth it? I certainly hope so. I hope to have it at my doorstep when I get home from work next Friday.

I've had my eyes on Sion for a long time, namely because I'm somewhat of a fanboy for her. I like her playstyle as well, which suits my rather offensive style that I play in all fighting games. While her infinite, which happens to be her bread and butter (lol~) as well, is a nice plus, it's not exactly a reason why I'm choosing her to be my main. Apparently she's a difficult character to play, one of the most difficult in MB, but I can't imagine her being too hard to play, as the best Sion in Japan plays Slayer/Pot in Guilty Gear.

Other canidates I have my eyes on as characters I will play are Akiha Vermillion (rushdown/mix ups!) and Red Arc (more rushdown yay~). Akiha Vermillion looks very promising, but it's discouraging that her life is so low. One Sion combo on Akiha Vermillion can equal 50% life!

Here are some videos of interest:
youtube.com/watch?v=bB5bbgPGEGU - Arcueid infinite (works on Shiki and Hisui, as far as I know; not sure who else)
youtube.com/watch?v=tBX3cgGsuwc - Sion infinite... lots of it (keep in mind that most players just go for a reset after so many reps of the infinite)

shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Melty_Blood:_Act_Cadenza - Shoryuken.com MB:AC wiki

Looking forward for this baby next week. <3

Note: Meh... dunno when GFF invoked the rule of no images or url links until a certain number of posts are gained... but that's kind of lame. Been here for while too... just kind of stopped posting. >_>;; Anyways, I have to give links as text for now until further notice.

Zero' Aug 6, 2006 11:42 PM

I like the first time I played MB: Re-Act for a least two hours but then I dropped it. MB is just a repetitive brainless fighter. Almost very character play all the same, jump-in attack, throw. I kinda not to waste my time learning this game anymore.

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Originally Posted by Burp
By the way, you can download some awesome fights on Game Chariot, an Arcade center were the fights of the Tougeki Super Battle Opera 2006 were taken.

Just let to know, that none japanese arcade site will never upload one of SBO matches. Those matches video are just local tournament.

chato Aug 8, 2006 08:19 PM

The game came out today on torrent. My friend already has it so Im getting it from him. Start seedin!.

http://bt.eastgame.net/download.php?...5690f093a588a6

BIGWORM Aug 8, 2006 08:59 PM

I just got this off of Usenet, and I can't wait to burn it. Man I remember Melty Blood on the computer a couple years ago. Looking forward to it.

chato Aug 8, 2006 09:34 PM

Yeah. those were definately the days. I remember rushing to best buy to cop' a better logitech controller for it. I believe there was a patch for playing online but I haven't found it anywhere. the FINAL TUNED version was sorta like Act Cadenza. Only.. not.

Where there any tweaks in the graphics?

EDIT: Playing Now. Its fun and i notice alot of differences . I just think the fighting game is a little bit the same but with all the other interesting features. It makes up for it and the added tracks. The game doesn't suck so dont have doubts about it. Its still fun. Its superior to all of the other versions.

EDIT2: Yeah im still liking it lol.

BTW, if the torrent isn't good for you, I'll be uploading the iso on sendspace for you (of course in winrar). The file is about 1.5 gigs and 300 mb in winrar.

EDIT3: nvm. I can't upload on sendspace since you can only upload up to 300. The winrar file is 320. I'll put it on megaupload. Dont get it twisted. if you use firefox with megaupload. It'll download somewhat quicker o.o;.

EDIT 4: Upload Finished. Happy downloading ;p

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2F5K2AO

fuck. You can only upload to 250.. So i guess this is good for the premium users >.>. Sorry.

map car man words telling me to do things Aug 9, 2006 05:52 AM

I'm loving the animation, it's just so wonderfully smooth. Not quite up to Third Strike quality, but very impressive either way and easily the third best animation I've seen in fighting games (right after Garou - Mark of the Wolves).

I'm having a bit trouble with the buttons, way too used to Street Fighter controls, so I had to fiddle with the control settings for ages till I got a setup that works for me.

chato Aug 9, 2006 06:09 AM

Was anybody able to unlock Neco-Arc? Its kinda ridiculous but cute as well ;p. I was giving the game another go with the new character Kouma. Fuckin badass I tell you. Kinda has a mix of that one dude from Rage of the Dragons and Kagami from LB2.

As for the controls, I'm fine with the default only now i felt like switching circle for x. Makes things more easier. Good thing they increased the life bar at least.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 06:33 AM

Can someone upload this to sendspace please? >_< thanks anyway Chaco

chato Aug 9, 2006 07:03 AM

I would have, but the limit for sendspace is 300. The winrar file is 320mb =/. Got any other upload sites?

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 12:16 PM

yousendit.com and megaupload.com . Yousendit.com only has a download limit of seven days though, so you'd be hardpressed to get it.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 12:24 PM

what about compress it on 2 rar files?

chato Aug 9, 2006 12:28 PM

I registered for free on yousendit, but the limit is only 100 mb??? O.o
Megaupload became 250 =/. Which is why its only for premium users.

2 rar files? How do i do that?

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 12:35 PM

just right-click on the melty blood .rar > Add to archive, then look for Split into volumes, bytes, and there should be a preset for 250000000, being 250MB. Select that, then OK, and WinRAR will split them.

Double Post:
If worst comes to worst, I'll redownload, and provide a YSI myself, because I can upload a gig for some reason.

chato Aug 9, 2006 01:33 PM

How bout I just send it to you through Aim? It takes less than a hour so that should help. For either of you.

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 01:40 PM

What's your upload? If you're on a 768KBPS upload like me, it'll a couple of hours at the least for one transfer.

map car man words telling me to do things Aug 9, 2006 01:50 PM

How about he just download it from a torrent like a good leech.
Either way this thread is not the place to pine for games, take it to PMs or Other Requests.


On topic, is Neco Arc relatively easy to unlock? There's obviously no unlockables FAQ out just yet, so I've not found info on this so far.

chato Aug 9, 2006 01:54 PM

I keep fighting the little thing over and over but still no luck. I must be doing something wrong or maybe I have to activate The Blood Heat Move on her for both rounds.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 02:13 PM

Sorry... my isp hates torrents, i never download more than 3 kbps on torrents with full of seeds -_-

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
How about he just download it from a torrent like a good leech.
Either way this thread is not the place to pine for games, take it to PMs or Other Requests.


On topic, is Neco Arc relatively easy to unlock? There's obviously no unlockables FAQ out just yet, so I've not found info on this so far.

I've yet to unlock him, and I've beat the game roughly 6 times.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 03:56 PM

I hope that at least Neco Arc isnt so brutal than the original MB version...

Taco Aug 9, 2006 04:25 PM

More annoying than anything, so freakin' tiny... worse than White Len.

I got the game yesterday and have been playing it off-and-on. It's a solid fighter, and very fun to play. My favorite fighter is the Hisui & Kohaku team. Meido powaa~

I'm definitely gonna strive to be really good at this game, it seems to be convention-tournament material.

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 05:54 PM

I'm enjoying Mech-Hisui myself.

chato Aug 9, 2006 06:26 PM

I guess I am a sucker for the cute maid, Kohaku. Her abilities are also kool. Using her broom which is a sword and flying across the screen dropping bombs. That's original u.u..

Elixir Aug 9, 2006 06:29 PM

After a solid two hours before bed last night, I can confirm this game is awesome. I'm so glad I preordered it. The best thing about it that I can totally see my friend and I playing this for hours on end.

Currently, I used Akiha to beat single player on the hardest difficulty. I really like the button system and I managed to catch on pretty fast, even though I'm not really used to it yet.

All of the characters are quite unique, except for Nysvqr and Mech-Hisui, which resemble Eddie and Robo-Ky from GGXX#R way too much. That aside, Kohaku and Akiha are probably going to be my main characters for the time being.

The sprites aren't as flash as GGXX#R, but I'd say they're the next best thing. It's not like there's a huge demand for 2D fighters, so it's great to see such quality coming out like this.

Oh, and completing single player and seeing "Secrets unlocked: 1%" was lol. I'll need to get to work on this.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 08:22 PM

But what about the NAOMI-->PS2 port? the sprites seems too horrible? or it seems nice?

Elixir Aug 9, 2006 08:27 PM

The sprites look fine, and if you'd read what I said, they're probably the next best to GGXX.

And I haven't played the NAOMI port so how the fuck should I know. Chances are noone else has either.

BIGWORM Aug 9, 2006 08:34 PM

Unless you live in Japan or your local arcade imported it, you didn't play the NAOMI port.

Burp Aug 9, 2006 09:37 PM

I know of course, but i saw a lot of videos and high-quality screenshot of the game and the game was a little "downsampled" between the PC and the NAOMI version, so i guess than the PS2 will get even more downsampled quality, you can see that if you play Capcom vs SNK2 on Dreamcast/GC/Xbox and then on PS2... its really annoying.

But oh well, if you say that seems good, its good news =)

BIGWORM Aug 10, 2006 02:15 AM

whenever it cames to NAOMI, Dreamcast > all ESPECIALLY when it came to the Virtua Tennis series.

Elixir Aug 10, 2006 03:21 AM

Kotaku rocks. I love this character, along with her moves. Her cactus attack is by far the best attack I've ever seen in any fighting game next to Servbot's super.

I've completed single player twice now, on the hardest difficulty. The second time I didn't even continue once. And my completion is.. 2%. I don't know how this unlock system works but it sounds like a slow and painful process.

Max POWER Aug 14, 2006 03:34 PM

So, does anyone know how to do the last arc for characters? In training mode I'm sometimes able to pull if off by being in Blood Heat and then pulling off an Ex-Shield, but that doesn't always work.

Freddy Krueger Aug 14, 2006 04:45 PM

Is most of this game in japanese? Or is a good deal of it in english "not the voices, things like menus and such.

Cirno Aug 14, 2006 10:44 PM

A good deal of the game is in English. You can figure out what things do if you know English. Or use gamefaqs. Or google.

KazeJiyuu Aug 15, 2006 12:51 PM

Anyone knows how to get White Ren? I just got Neco-Arc but no clue for Ren.

I guess I need to spend more hours in Survival mode to see if I can unlock more stuff.

Manny Biggz Aug 15, 2006 11:23 PM

So, I played the game a few times today. I tried out that dude with the flaming feet. (His name escapes me right now) Either way, playing with him seemed like Iori tactics galore. Poke 3 - 5 times, qcf + A or B x 3. After a while, I started to realize that this game suffers from the dreaded CAPCOM poke syndrome. Poking into combos is pretty much all I see in videos online. I need to see some more variety, and play styles! Every match going down the same way gets awfully boring... Either way, i'll still give this game another chance, and see how far I can get with it.

Cirno Aug 16, 2006 12:00 AM

Holy shit.

Neco-Arc CHAOS

...loses.

So I guess the character IS real. No idea how to unlock him, but then again this could still be some kind of elaborate hoax. Nevertheless, it made me lol.

And I fought White Ren the other day for the first time. What a bitch. Took me forever to kill her, but I'm more anxious than ever to unlock her. How do you get Neco-Arc, anyway? Beat the game with every character?

Dhsu Aug 16, 2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurado
Holy shit.

Neco-Arc CHAOS

...loses.

So I guess the character IS real. No idea how to unlock him, but then again this could still be some kind of elaborate hoax. Nevertheless, it made me lol.

That is the greatest thing I've ever seen. His air dash is awesome, and the voice clips were rofltastic.

Encephlon Aug 17, 2006 12:16 PM

Check gamefaqs on how to unlock Neko-Chaos

"how do you do nero's mantis uppercut thing? it seems to have changed..."

chato Aug 27, 2006 05:10 PM

Anybody know how to unlock White Len, yet?

Burp Aug 30, 2006 10:04 PM

Damn, first Guilty with Accent Core and now Ecole with Melty Blood Act-Cadenza Version B, there is a new fifth button and White Len is now a selectable character for the beginning...

Now you can throw your copies of Guilty Gear Slash and Melty Blood Act-Cadenza to the trash, at least let hope that Ecole eliminate the nasty Arcueid/Sion infinites.

Summonmaster Aug 31, 2006 11:54 PM

I just got to play this today at my friend's house and didn't see an outstanding difference from react final tuned, although since Len's my favourite character, I wonder how nasty White Len is.

What exactly is the purpose of the arc drive that Kohaku has, the one with the complicated motion? All she seems to do is electrocute herself and it doesn't seem to be a counter move or do any damage.

p997tt Sep 8, 2006 04:51 AM

I used to be pretty hardout at MBR Final Tuned for about 6 months but I stopped since there's just no competition whatsoever around here. I know a few people that play it but that's not really enough and it gets boring after a while. If I'm living in Japan it would be a different story though (although I will get owned in the arcade).

People say the combos are easy to pull off. I agree to some extend. But to execute the flashier combos you will need as much skills as pulling off RC/FRC combos in GGXX.

Also I know a lot of the famous GGXX players like yukinose and kaqn are into MB. It's easy to see why since both games are similar in many ways. The popularity of Typemoon and Tsukihime is also a bonus.

I wish there's a similar kind of good 2D fighter for Fate too...

corventus Apr 24, 2007 01:24 PM

Yo anyone has melty blood act cadenza for PS2 uploaded on an upload site? torrents arent really good with my connection so this would help a lot, thanks in advance!

Cirno Apr 24, 2007 05:19 PM

Try this torrent site:
Weeaboo Torrents

You can find a lot of other stuff there, too.

PsychoJosh Apr 25, 2007 06:53 AM

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It brings the original concept of Shielding into gameplay. Shielding is an advanced form of guarding. By tapping the shield button right before the moment of impact, the player cancels the opponent's attack, leaving the opponent wide open to attack.
This revolutionary and original idea is also known as parrying to SFIII players.

corventus Apr 25, 2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudkips (Post 428585)
Try this torrent site:
Weeaboo Torrents

You can find a lot of other stuff there, too.

I didn´t need to click the site to even know it was playasia. If you were gonna help like that then please don´t help at all.


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