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Old Mar 4, 2006, 09:18 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 03:18 AM #26 of 46
It's a shame the journals aren't up, you could put that stuff in an entry with, like, a link in a signature somewhere saying something like "an education on seditious libel" so people can read it voluntarily. Nice gig though, you got me good.

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 09:26 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 07:26 PM #27 of 46
Originally Posted by Kolba
It's a shame the journals aren't up, you could put that stuff in an entry with, like, a link in a signature somewhere saying something like "an education on seditious libel" so people can read it voluntarily. Nice gig though, you got me good.
I think I'm too lazy for a journal, so it's just easier to bait people and then make them look silly after relating numerous examples. Plus, I'm no lawyer... or historian for that matter.

I didn't really expect anyone who hasn't had a good "history of Western Civilization" and/or a couple college level classes on law to really understand it anyway. Most people have misconceptions about freedom of speech.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 09:46 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 03:46 AM #28 of 46
Ok, a little advice I may impart. For a really big payoff, I would wait until someone who is actually trying to counter your point bites. Also, that way anyone who's just attempting to point out some logical shortfallings doesn't have to waste their time on someone feigning ignorance and playing games for whatever reason.

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 11:13 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 09:13 PM #29 of 46
This is kinda off topic but here goes.

Originally Posted by Kolba
Ok, a little advice I may impart. For a really big payoff, I would wait until someone who is actually trying to counter your point bites.
I think the journal idea would probably be better. Something I'll consider. But I digress, since pretty much everyone who read the first post of this thread agreed that this was small-minded bigotry, if anyone; namely me were to come out and say "I don't think there's anything legally wrong with this..." I'd be denounced as a bigot or maybe even anti-arab nazi. Which clearly I am not. The point is, nobody would take the time to get to my true legal standpoint. Where as here at least one person got it. Probably more. And hey a little humility never hurt anybody with all these European-American rivalries/tensions going on right?


Originally Posted by Kolba
Also, that way anyone who's just attempting to point out some logical shortfallings doesn't have to waste their time on someone feigning ignorance and playing games for whatever reason.
Then do accept my apologies for that. But regardless I would've dealt with your outrage, and your indinity either way. Instead of dealing with it all at once and from everybody (with the "I don't think there's anything legally wrong with this" comment) I chose to single somebody out, and hope everyone got my point without all the outrage.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 11:13 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 11:13 PM #30 of 46
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Ok, a little advice I may impart. For a really big payoff, I would wait until someone who is actually trying to counter your point bites. Also, that way anyone who's just attempting to point out some logical shortfallings doesn't have to waste their time on someone feigning ignorance and playing games for whatever reason.
Stop acting like a goddamn queen. This is Political Palace, not some dance floor at the student center.

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 11:14 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 09:14 PM #31 of 46
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Stop acting like a goddamn queen. This is Political Palace, not some dance floor at the student center.
Great diplomacy skills Brady! Used less words then I did. But I bet mine went over better.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 08:05 AM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 02:05 PM #32 of 46
Why didn't you make the point straight away? Why did you feel somebody had to lead you there? You know this thread has been sullied slightly because of your inablity to air your view point in the normal course of debate? But if Bradylama tells me trawling is commonplace over a straight laying down of opinions, then I've got it all wrong, for which you should excuse me.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 08:14 AM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 06:14 AM #33 of 46
You want to know what I hate? I hate people using the word Nazi and not knowing what it fucking means. Nazi was a german abreviation for National Socialist.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 5, 2006, 09:38 AM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 07:38 AM #34 of 46
Originally Posted by Kolba
Why didn't you make the point straight away? Why did you feel somebody had to lead you there?
It's more of a 'journey of self-discovery' that way. I don't like preaching. Plus it was kinda fun; "You Europeans started it the moment you acted all superior to Americans!" and likewise.

Originally Posted by Kolba
You know this thread has been sullied slightly because of your inablity to air your view point in the normal course of debate?
Mmm okay. It could've also been sullied by the general ignorance about common law regarding freedom of speech that's older then 100 years? But I guess I'll take the blame for sullying the thread.

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But if Bradylama tells me trawling is commonplace over a straight laying down of opinions, then I've got it all wrong, for which you should excuse me.
I'll leave it to Brady to explain himself, but I think he was just saying you were overreacting over nothing. If a moderator had a problem with what I did, they'd inform me.

Regardless I've made my point. So I'm done with this thread.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 10:49 AM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 04:49 PM #35 of 46
Originally Posted by Watts
It's more of a 'journey of self-discovery' that way. I don't like preaching. Plus it was kinda fun; "You Europeans started it the moment you acted all superior to Americans!" and likewise.
As I say though, at least wait until someone who proves they need the journey comes along, before smugly showing your hand. It still stands that I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with your standpoint concerning the issue of free speech or whatever, and my original interjection into the topic was based on your application of view, rather than content (which you kept hidden anyway).

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Mmm okay. It could've also been sullied by the general ignorance about common law regarding freedom of speech that's older then 100 years? But I guess I'll take the blame for sullying the thread.
That'll be ignorance about something that wasn't part of the equation when I made my first post, then.

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I'll leave it to Brady to explain himself, but I think he was just saying you were overreacting over nothing. If a moderator had a problem with what I did, they'd inform me.
I'm just in favour of straightforward debate rather than pussyfooting around. If you've got something to say on an issue, especially something which you think will educate, come out and share it, there's no need for muddying up a discussion with these games and provocative one liners before hand. I'd call it more 'reacting' than 'overreacting' to want things more clear cut.

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Regardless I've made my point.
You got there in the end huh?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 01:23 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 01:23 PM #36 of 46
Acting as if you're not affected by a quip or otherwise is just a waste of space. Clearly you would be, because you've taken the time to expunge on how unaffected you are.

Watts is being kind of an asshole by sounding full of himself, but that isn't particularly wrong, and neither is stringing somebody along to help prove a point. That's a part of discussion.

Now stop this cat fight and act like big boys.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 01:46 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 08:46 PM #37 of 46
Originally Posted by Wesker
The Eurpoean Union is a joke.
You're so damn right!

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 02:13 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 09:13 PM #38 of 46
The European Union is actually a great concept, but it's being run by incompetent fools.

Geez, we can't even agree on a common policy on terrorism.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Mar 5, 2006, 02:29 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 09:29 PM #39 of 46
Originally Posted by Rock
The European Union is actually a great concept, but it's being run by incompetent fools.

Geez, we can't even agree on a common policy on terrorism.
And because they want to get many new members as fast as possible. Letting Poland, Hungary, the former CSSR etc joining in was in my opinion not a good idea.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 04:13 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 10:13 PM #40 of 46
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Acting as if you're not affected by a quip or otherwise is just a waste of space. Clearly you would be, because you've taken the time to expunge on how unaffected you are.
Where did I do that?

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Watts is being kind of an asshole by sounding full of himself, but that isn't particularly wrong, and neither is stringing somebody along to help prove a point. That's a part of discussion.
Would you say then, that Watts' discussion methods have moved this thread in a positive direction?

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 05:00 PM #41 of 46
This is pretty ridiculous. Anyone who consents to this is up to be laughed at.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 05:16 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 12:16 AM #42 of 46
Originally Posted by AlogiA
Letting Poland, Hungary, the former CSSR etc joining in was in my opinion not a good idea.
In fact, it's pretty much a given (and important) that they would be members of the EU at some point in time, but I agree that some steps were just taken way too fast here.

To get back on topic, the joining of new countries at this pace doesn't really help with the integration of foreigners, either.

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 08:08 AM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 03:08 PM #43 of 46
Originally Posted by Rock
To get back on topic, the joining of new countries at this pace doesn't really help with the integration of foreigners, either.
Speaking the lokal language is also important for integration.
In Germany the politicians are now debating if they should forbid alien students to talk in their mother language in scool. They say, that the students from Turkey, Greece, former Yugoslavia and so on have problems with the German language.

Well I don't know if this really helps people to integrate themselves, I know e.g. from some Turks that some of them don't want to learn German.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 02:16 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 12:16 PM #44 of 46
If they don't want to learn German, why are they going to German schools filled with German students and German teachers in Germany?

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 02:21 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 09:21 PM #45 of 46
German universities still have a good reputation in other countries as well, you know. Some just get a student visa and return to their home countries after finishing their studies. Most of them still go through the hassles of actually learning German.

Seeing how more and more studying programs are offered in English or other foreign languages almost eliminates the need for it, though.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 06:49 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 04:49 PM #46 of 46
Originally Posted by Robo Jesus
If they don't want to learn German, why are they going to German schools filled with German students and German teachers in Germany?
Same reason why there's so many azn grad students here that barely speak English even after living here for four years. They don't have a desire to learn the language, don't want to stay here when they finish, and there's enough of their friends that they can stick together and get through most things.

It doesn't bother me a whole lot except when I have to try and deal with them since they'll start yelling at me like it's my fault for not knowing Chinese/Korean/Japanese/whatever. =\

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