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I was under the impression that historical texts (which the Constitution happens to be) is constantly being interpreted. Which means that there's not always one concrete answer. I was actually ripping off text from a school book I have here in the other thread. I didn't make that up. There's a reason we have the judicial branch, you know. ;_; Seriously. Please stop being so goddamned critical. It's no way to carry on a conversation, Styphon. SADFACE. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
When sections of the Constitution are vague on points, the judicial branch can be asked to determine what they're saying. Just what they say can be interpreted different ways as society changes, as when the Court that handed down Brown v. Board of Education read the Constitution differently than the Court that handed down Plessy v. Ferguson.
However, when the Constitution is crystal clear on a point, there isn't (or rather, shouldn't be) any need for interpretation. The Constitutional requirements for overturning a presidential veto are there, and are clear enough, as are the Constitution's rules for assigning electoral votes. Someone who'd read the Constitution would know that, and if not, finding it would be a simple enough exercise of Just Fucking Googling It. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I apologized for the inaccuracy and I only express that I wish you were a little more hospitable regarding conversations of controversial nature. =/ How ya doing, buddy? |
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So... Anyone want to try to explain to me in VERY SIMPLE TERMS what's going on with Israel? I hear about the Middle East so much, but whenever I ask someone, all I get is a, "Well, it's hard to explain..."
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FELIPE NO |
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Arabs from...?
And what's that whole thing about Lebanon wanting to be recognized or something? What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
It doesn't matter where the Arabs are from. Arabs are Arabs.
Lebanon is already recognized. What Lebanon would really like is for Israel to stop destroying their country when they feel like it. It's bad for tourism. Most amazing jew boots |
The short answer is "Arabs from..." mainly the places near to Israel. They don't get on with their neighbors, for the reasons described below. To an extent, this has the effect of uniting the otherwise divided Arab world. Not entirely, but enough to make it a pretty big problem.
It was still going on prior to that, of course. Just in a different form, since there was no official State of Israel. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, Jews began to migrate to what they believed was their 'promised land, which set the stage for the current conflict. It would be wrong to think that even that migration was the root of the conflict though. I think it could be stated with some justification that the dispute over territory goes all the way back to Biblical times. I apologise that my understanding is not sufficient to give any more detailed of an answer. Most amazing jew boots |
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Yeah, I totally meant Palestine (whoops). So are Israel and Palestine fighting like whoa?
Basically my friends tell me just to assume that everyone in the middle east is fighting with everyone... This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
You shouldn't think of it as two armies marching to war. It's not that simple at all. It's something that I think I'm not qualified to really discuss. I can't really claim to understand it entirely myself, so I won't presume to try and explain it any further.
I'm sure there are relatively peaceful areas in the more prosperous countries. It's not constant warfare all through the region. It just happens to be the case that there are several trouble-spots which have very prominent, well-known problems. I've never been there myself, but I imagine there are places where you'd never know anything about any conflicts. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
Last edited by Soluzar; Dec 1, 2006 at 12:21 AM.
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Thanks for your thoughts, though. I can totally follow what you're saying. I'm just one of those annoying people who has to understand all the little details before being able to grasp the big picture, and that doesn't tend to work very well with politics... I was speaking idiomatically. |
You'll drive yourself insane before you learn all about this conflict though. There are just so many small, but important details. So many groups, so many agendas and so many things happening. It's fascinating, but I don't think I'd ever understand it well enough to try explaining it to others. I'm just hoping I didn't make any glaringly obvious mistakes in what I did tell you, as basic as it is. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
The Arab/Jewish conflict has already been covered. There's one more group of people, the Kurds, who occupy Northern Iraq, but they're at war with the Arabs 'cause they're a different ethnicity (i.e. they look different). It's the same sort of problems you see everywhere. You don't believe in my. God the same way I do, so I'm going to kill you, and You don't look like me, so I'm going to kill you. Humans. *sigh*. FELIPE NO |
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Ooh, that helped ramoth.
So 3 basic areas of conflict: Arab/Jewish (is that more religion-based, territory-based, or race-based?) Muslim Arabs: Sunnis vs. Shiites (I've heard a little bit about this... Isn't one of those factions particularly radical?) Kurds vs. Arabs (race conflict) So "Arabs." At the risk of sounding very ignorant... Is this a really broad term of what? To whom does it refer, exactly? What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world The most functional definition would be to describe it as an ethnicity, equivalent in that regard to Caucasian, or Afro-Carribean. How ya doing, buddy? |
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Thank you so much! That helps a lot.
Though of course, I always struggle with the difference between race and ethnicity and all that. And I get confused about such things as, are white and Caucasian the same? Are Asians white? But they aren't Caucasian, clearly. So there must be a distinction... Etc. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
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Caucasian refers to people who originated near the geographic center of Eurasia, sometimes called Caucasia (for its proximity to the Caucasus mountains)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasu...phic_region%29 It's where most Europeans originated from, back in da day. In general, if you're unusure about a term, look for it on Wikipedia. There's a lot of knowledge to be had there. Just remember to take it with a grain of salt and look at the footnotes they provide. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |