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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0415856/

This is a movie about a troubled girl(Dakota Fanning, 12) in the southern states who endures abuse as she grows up, and finds solace for her turbulant life in Elvis's music. (this is of course a very rough plot overview)
Very noteworthy for me about this movie is the fact that it has explicit scenes where Dakota's character is raped, naked, or just in underpants.

I find it utterly abhorrent that they feel it necessary to make a movie with such depictions. They can get away with hinting at these sorts of things, but instead the movie-makers decide to introduce this 12-year-old girl to rape and abuse, and have her act them out. It would be foolish to think that experience would have no effect on her.

Now, according to Daily Mail, there appears to be 2 taboos in Hollywood: underage sex, and killing animals, which this movie has both of. It seems to me that this movie is being produced almost for the explicit purpose of attacking both of these unofficial prohibitions(animals get killed too I guess). That may be fine in concept; however it seems that their methods of achieving this will more than likely harm the poor girl who is being used.

Just a little bit more infuriating is Dakota Fanning's mother and agent who are enthusiastic over this movie because they see it "as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star." Are they fucking retarded? Or am I just overreacting?

Child nudity and simulated child rape. Am I the only one who thinks someone is pushing the laws on child porn, or at least trying to conventionalize it just a little bit more?(I'll probably get my head bitten off for that one)
Any other thoughts on this movie?

Credit goes to clone-army.org for directing my attention to this unpalatable piece of cinema

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Ever seen Taxi Driver? It's one of the most violent and explicit films ever made, and Jodie Foster was 13 when she did the film (portraying a child prostitute, no less). Many people consider it to be a masterpiece (myself included).

Besides, I doubt this film is going to suddenly make child porn okay, or even suggest that. Hell, I bet the film will just remind people how horrible child porn actually is. I think even her mother would object if the material was too obscene.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The first time I ever read that article, the whole thing basically made me feel like it was saying "hey, this 12 year old is gonna get naked and raped in this movie and its totally Oscar material for her and we're proud, WOOHOO!" which irritated me to no end. It's great that Dakota can be challenged as an actress and everything but I think that just because she can pull it off doesn't mean that she should, ya know? Even if she's just acting and they were careful. It is just a movie and all but I knew it as "a disturbing paedophile film" before I knew the title, plot, or the other actors. It's just weird. I don't even like to watch adults get raped in movies... Aaaaaand I still haven't seen Taxi Driver *runs*

I thought I was overreacting at first but so far I haven't really seen anyone that feels differently than this about me... *shrug* :/
I'll still probably watch it anyway, ehhhhh.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by el jacko

suddenly make child porn okay

Has anything ever suddenly changed societal attitudes? Of course not. And I never suggested such a thing.

A journey is comprised of many steps, and a few steps in the wrong direction kept unchecked can potentially lead to unintended (and undesired) destinations.

And no, I haven't seen Taxi Driver. But I don't think I want to.

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Originally Posted by packrat

Has anything ever suddenly changed societal attitudes? Of course not. And I never suggested such a thing.

A journey is comprised of many steps, and a few steps in the wrong direction kept unchecked can potentially lead to unintended (and undesired) destinations.

You didn't suggest it, that's true, and I didn't mean to imply that you did. I actually agree with you that one movie (generally) won't change societal attitudes, but I don't think this film will even attempt to suggest that child porn is okay, and instead support the case for "child porn is bad", if in a rather graphic manner.

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And no, I haven't seen Taxi Driver. But I don't think I want to.

You should! It's a really good movie.

I was speaking idiomatically.

It's an incredible film. I highly recommend seeing it.

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Originally Posted by el jacko

You didn't suggest it, that's true, and I didn't mean to imply that you did. I actually agree with you that one movie (generally) won't change societal attitudes, but I don't think this film will even attempt to suggest that child porn is okay, and instead support the case for "child porn is bad", if in a rather graphic manner.

I hope you are right.
There just seems to me to be a nagging, albeit hopefully false, concern that people will use this as a justification to attempt to push the envelope further. The moral content of a movie can be completely ignored if the visual content will serve the purpose of someone with such an intent. I think it would be folly to say people would never try that.

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Originally Posted by packrat

Just a little bit more infuriating is Dakota Fanning's mother and agent who are enthusiastic over this movie because they see it "as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star." Are they fucking retarded? Or am I just overreacting?

Child nudity and simulated child rape. Am I the only one who thinks someone is pushing the laws on child porn, or at least trying to conventionalize it just a little bit more?(I'll probably get my head bitten off for that one)
Any other thoughts on this movie?

Hollywood seems to be a messed-up shit hole that transforms many people into party-slutting, body-starving, drug-using kooks. Now that my little episode is over with, Hollywood has basically decided that one of the best ways to entertain the masses is to adopt the Roman form of entertaiment called "shock value". It is always pushing the boundaries because we have become so used to the shock value that it has to keep pushing the envelope.

Fanning is too old to win the "youngest Oscar winner" award, and while an Oscar win is one of the better ways to survive the dreaded child-star lable, there are honestly better ways of winning an Oscar. She's already getting automatic roles with the biggest stars in Hollywood. I do agree in sacrificing for your work, but I agree with you that her mom and agent are retarded for thinking that this would be the best way for her to win an Oscar. Anyone remember "Brokeback Mountain"? Films that push the envelope do have a good shot at winning an Oscar, but this film created probably the most noise yet lost to "Crash", Clooney (supporting), and Hoffman (lead).

I don't think it will change the laws on child pornography in anyone's favor. However, Hollywood enjoys pushing the envelope and I know there are people around here who thought that her role in "War of the Worlds" was extremely annoying and may not be too upset about what happens to her in this film, disturbing I know. I think her mom and agent are stupid, there are better ways to win an Oscar, and Lindsay Lohan's claims to getting naked in order to win an Oscar will probably not get her an Oscar since Oscars do go to those who mainly get out of their comfort zone.

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