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Plans for the future of Gamingforce
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 03:55 PM #26 of 169
I'm not against attachments as much as I am against their permanence. Attachments from 2006 are likely ignored by now and thus unimportant. Why do we keep them?

If there were a statute on how long attachments remained attached, then we would have a system in which the balance is maintained and the server load would remain at a manageable level instead of the growing monster it is now. I mean, Concert Hall people make requests all the time; if they want an attachment reposted, I doubt they'll hesitate to speak up.

Of course, is there even a way to automatically purge an attachment once it reaches a certain date in age, say six months?

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 04:04 PM #27 of 169
I had seven attachments. I've since deleted them and edited my older posts that had attachments with some bbcode linking to the attachments' new home on my own hosting.


For example:

attachment:
+ [ stafficon-mod.gif ]


BBCode~ if you're interested:
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[size=1][sub]attachment:[/sub][/size]
[size=4][sup]+ [/sup][/size][ [b][url=http://www.thegond.com/gff/attachments/stafficon-mod.gif]stafficon-mod.gif[/url][/b] ]
Just so I can be cool like Pang.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 04:05 PM 1 #28 of 169
Jesus Christ Pang. These people we're trying to get rid of are the goddamned small pox blankets of the internet. GFF is Fort Pitt. Just throw them out and let them smash against the fortifications while we laugh at how awful they are.
I'm not arguing with that; it just seems wasteful to turn our other holdings into a Hooverville out of some misguided pity.

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 04:17 PM 7 #29 of 169

COME ON PANG, DON'T YOU WANT...

THERES BEEN A GODDAMNED...

...OF THESE TYPES ON THIS BOARD FOR AGES NOW.
AND I'M SURE YOU...

SO WHY DON'T YOU...

AND

BECAUSE IN THE END, ITS


I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 05:38 PM Local time: Feb 13, 2009, 02:38 PM #30 of 169
I'm wondering if there's a way we can optimize the image scans over at VGMdb to take up less space, but that's an issue I'll bring up at VGMdb.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Old Feb 13, 2009, 05:47 PM #31 of 169
Wait... I thought VGMdb was on its own hosting. We're still sharing? =o

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 08:53 PM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 09:53 AM #32 of 169
gamingforce.com isn't exactly a noble URL. It was and will always be known for filesharing. That's why I'm moving those forums back there, since I like to think our community has outgrown that.

Acer, we're pretty much piggybacking on the VGMdb server. Did you think we had the money to pay for two dedicated servers?

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 08:55 PM #33 of 169
Can Bender stay? I can understand it if it's not possible, however.

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 09:38 PM #34 of 169
gamingforce.com isn't exactly a noble URL. It was and will always be known for filesharing. That's why I'm moving those forums back there, since I like to think our community has outgrown that.
I guess. I wasn't quite sure what we'd do with the .com anyway so I guess that's as good as anything. =|

Acer, we're pretty much piggybacking on the VGMdb server.
Piggybacking VGMdb? Wut? VGMdb is a neat project and all but last I recall people round these parts donate and fund this server primarily for GFF. I could have sworn VGMdb was split from GFF to do its own thing for this and other reasons; not being associated with a thieves' playground being one of them. Really, I bet noone would raise an eyebrow if Wikipedia and Mininova were on the same server. =/

Did you think we had the money to pay for two dedicated servers?
No, I wasn't aware that we needed the money to pay for two dedicated servers. Silly me.

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Old Feb 13, 2009, 09:50 PM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 10:50 AM #35 of 169
Donations ran out a while ago. Right now we're paying for the server out of our own pockets. To be frank, the admins are primarily paying for VGMdb.

I could have sworn VGMdb was split from GFF to do its own thing for this and other reasons; not being associated with a thieves' playground being one of them. Really, I bet noone would raise an eyebrow if Wikipedia and Mininova were on the same server. =/

Yeah, what do you think I'm trying to accomplish by moving My Stuff as well (they don't use attachments).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 10:01 PM Local time: Feb 13, 2009, 08:01 PM 1 #36 of 169
I don't like the idea of nuking attachments. I like having a file permanently available on a post. imgshack and such hosts can go sour, and it's not like I'm making sure I'm saving every single image or attachment I put in a post.

I usually host to img tag, then attach as well, for the sake of preservation.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 12:27 AM 1 #37 of 169
Donations ran out a while ago. Right now we're paying for the server out of our own pockets.
I think folks would be more inclined to donate if they knew how much money was needed every month and/or how much money was left to pay each month.

Maybe something like this~



Pulled that shit from bitgamer btw

To be frank, the admins are primarily paying for VGMdb.
Good to know. =/

Yeah, what do you think I'm trying to accomplish by moving My Stuff as well (they don't use attachments).
I think you're trying to make more space for VGMdb and SD (whatever the fuck that is) because apparently the admins could give two half pennies about GFF.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 14, 2009, 12:30 AM #38 of 169
SD is SlightlyDark.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 12:31 AM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 01:31 PM #39 of 169
SD is SlightlyDark.

Concert Hall and My Stuff are our biggest liabilities right now. Although we've had only one DMCA takedown notice so far, I'm fairly certain our host won't take kindly to future notices.

Got any more snark to add? I know I'm not the best GFF cheerleader around but I'm the one getting shit done here.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:10 AM #40 of 169
We've all more or less banded together here because it's what made the most sense financially.

I don't think that Blah is implying that the GFF admins don't care about GFF. What he's saying is that the majority of the server's bill is paid by VGMdb staff, and has been for a while now. Much of the staff is common to here too, so it's not an issue. Naka offered to move SlightlyDark over to our hosting so that he could start contributing to the server bill, and lower the monthly tab for the rest of the regular contributors.

Now that I've seen more of the story, I agree that moving the "pirate" parts of the board to other hosting is the best solution. It's not just about disc space, though running out of space may have sped things up.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:14 AM 5 #41 of 169
While obviously these decisions are down to whoever's paying the bills, I don't think it's unreasonable to be somewhat agitated at the notion that the board essentially exists at the pleasure of VGMdb (of all things), that the community is considered less important than an overblown card catalogue.

How did that even happen? VGMdb appears to be several months younger than this iteration of GFF so exactly at what point did it become "VGMdb's server"? Was there a big ceremony with handing over the keys to Squirrel and all that.

By all means you do whatever you have to, I just think it's a little underhanded that this has all suddenly come out now. "O hey, incidentally, Kaleb owns you guys."

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:15 AM #42 of 169
Nope. Go ahead and prune like ya please. We'll still be here after your done. Maybe.

really blah i hope you understand where i'm coming from b/c jesus christ sometimes man sometimes

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:41 AM #43 of 169
I'm with Pang on wondering when, exactly, Gamingforce became second banana to VGMdb. It's not like GFF is going to be wiped off the planet because VGMdb hates us or anything, but it would've been nice to know (or it'll be nice to hear clarification) when this happened.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:44 AM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 02:44 PM #44 of 169
Oh, please. The effort to split the two forums from GFF is barely worth it as it is. I know most of you have never administered anything other than Dreamhost's one-click MediaWiki install but trust me, this shit isn't trivial.

Since you're all upset that GFF apparently isn't top on my list of priorities, maybe someone would like to step up and take over. I'm tired of this song and dance.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:51 AM #45 of 169
Don't pin this on me, Pangalin. Miles is in charge of finances for both Gamingforce and VGMdb.

I don't think it's in our best interests financially to split. It's going to hurt us both, and we'll both be scrambling to find new support.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:53 AM #46 of 169
Oh, please. The effort to split the two forums from GFF is barely worth it as it is. I know most of you have never administered anything other than Dreamhost's one-click MediaWiki install but trust me, this shit isn't trivial.

Since you're all upset that GFF apparently isn't top on my list of priorities, maybe someone would like to step up and take over. I'm tired of this song and dance.
Your tone aside, Blah, I get your point. I'll stand back.

As long as GFF isn't going anywhere, I'm happy.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:55 AM #47 of 169
Don't pin this on me, Pangalin. Miles is in charge of finances for both Gamingforce and VGMdb.
Yeah but it's no fun to pin things on him because he's always too busy making journal entries about my Japanese teacher!! to notice

edit: and then traveling to Japan

edit: to buy video games

edit: and making journal entries about buying video games in japan

edit: not even japan-exclusive games or anything

edit: just rpgs and shit

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 02:01 AM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 03:01 PM 4 #48 of 169
THE ADMINS ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS ALIGNED WITH MY INTERESTS

I WILL NOW PROCEED TO INSULT THEM

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 02:08 AM #49 of 169
Yes, but you'll do this aligned-with-my-interests thing whether I insult you or not, because "my interests" are not even remotely the actual motivation.

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to fly

to spit on those below

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 02:31 AM Local time: Feb 14, 2009, 03:31 PM #50 of 169
Pang doing his battered wife impersonation now

How ya doing, buddy?
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