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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:04 PM #526 of 608
Pyramid Nerd is a representation of James' anger and lust. That's why he's always killing shit and raping monsters in SH2. I don't remember what the significance is in concerns to Pyramid being a Civil War-era executioner, though.

They simply should have based the movie on Silent Hill 2. I think it would have played out well on film, and the concept doesn't seem particularly cliched to me. Also, Sean Bean makes a perfect Sunderland.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:11 PM #527 of 608
Well I can easily see a sequel with Sean Bean based on SHII, or would that not work? I'm not too familiar with the series so I'm not sure.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:17 PM #528 of 608
Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger
Well I can easily see a sequel with Sean Bean based on SHII, or would that not work? I'm not too familiar with the series so I'm not sure.
Wouldn't work, in terms of SH2's story.

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James visits SH because his dead wife had written a letter to him, asking him to come. He goes there, but eventually finds out that HE killed his own wife.

Basically, she was really sick, and he was feeling tied down to her, so he put a pillow over her head and smothered her. Then his mind made up this little story that she died from the disease.

I can't see this happening, unless he gets married again or something. They could have easily worked this in if Rose actually got back home safely, but since she's in "Limbo Land," he's wifeless.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:17 PM #529 of 608
It's the only logical route.

Sean Bean's character is left wondering what had happened to Rose and Sharon, since they're trapped in Silent Hill, and it only makes sense for him to revisit the town in order to find out what happened.

They fucked it all up already, though. The greatest thing in the entire series is featured in SH2. This is the fact that the town is a representation of oneself. The dark side is nothing but a reflection of one's own evils. The whole story about birthing Samael in the first SH and the third is just boring and stupid.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:21 PM #530 of 608
Originally Posted by Megalith
This is the fact that the town is a representation of oneself. The dark side is nothing but a reflection of one's own evils. The whole story about birthing Samael in the first SH and the third is just boring and stupid.
Woah, how is this a fact? Sure, it's an element of SH2, but you can't just throw out SH1 and 3's plot. It's freakin' canon.

Also, as I've said above, they'd have to create a new story with some kind of new twists if Sean Bean is going to be the main character.

It can't be based off of SH2.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:30 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 11:30 AM #531 of 608
SH2 (the movie) could easily rewrite SH2 (the game)'s story as
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Christopher getting calls/letters from Rose begging him to find her in Silent Hill and berating him for leaving her there to die alone and never caring enough to find her.
Not saying that's what I would want, but they could easily rework the story to fit that mold.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:32 PM #532 of 608
Originally Posted by Motsy
SH2 (the movie) could easily rewrite SH2 (the game)'s story as
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Christopher getting calls/letters from Rose begging him to find her in Silent Hill and berating him for leaving her there to die alone and never caring enough to find her.
Not saying that's what I would want, but they could easily rework the story to fit that mold.
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The only thing is... that's not a twist. The problem with making Christopher into a James-esque character is that we already know what happened before. We saw the first film, so there's no "hidden past" that we could uncover.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:34 PM #533 of 608
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Alot of the complaints I heard from my professor and other friends was the Bean's character sucks for just saying "kthxbye" to the police and not continuing his search for Rose. Your idea for a rewrite would definitely satisfy their demands, Motsy.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:34 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 11:34 AM #534 of 608
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They wouldn't need a twist. Hell, the changed the entire cult around for the movie -- I wouldn't be surprised to see them do something similar for SH2. I don't want that, but it's certainly possible.


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Alot of the complaints I heard from my professor and other friends was the Bean's character sucks for just saying "kthxbye" to the police and not continuing his search for Rose.
This is why I really feel they should've written Christopher's segments so that HE learned the history of the town, and dropped the Dark Alessa exposition sequence. His scenes are mostly pointless filler as are.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 02:48 PM #535 of 608
Originally Posted by Motsy
EDIT:This is why I really feel they should've written Christopher's segments so that HE learned the history of the town, and dropped the Dark Alessa exposition sequence. His scenes are mostly pointless filler as are.
Agreed. It would have been such a simple fix that for some reason, they didn't do. Oh well, I'll deal with it.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 05:14 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 07:14 PM #536 of 608
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Agreed. It would have been such a simple fix that for some reason, they didn't do. Oh well, I'll deal with it.
Could've worked, but I like it also that way.

And Sean Bean's character was written in the script because of the only studio note they received: "There are no men?!".

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 08:19 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 05:19 PM #537 of 608
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I got a sense that not only did the cult want to deal with the child being a bastard, but the fact that Dahlia wouldn't even name a father. The cult might of figured the conception to be unnatural and the child a demon. Whether or not Alyssa's birth really was a product of dark works and if she really had any power before her burning, if the evil split personality came directly from her or was a/the devil responding to her pain, that much is left ambiguous.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 08:43 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 10:43 PM #538 of 608
Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
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I got a sense that not only did the cult want to deal with the child being a bastard, but the fact that Dahlia wouldn't even name a father. The cult might of figured the conception to be unnatural and the child a demon. Whether or not Alyssa's birth really was a product of dark works and if she really had any power before her burning, if the evil split personality came directly from her or was a/the devil responding to her pain, that much is left ambiguous.
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Maybe Dahlia wouldn't name a Father because she wasn't married to him, so it would constitute a sin to their religion. Maybe the 'Father' was an important member of the community and Dahlia didn't want to tarnish his character. There's A LOT of material to play with here and as Gans said multiple times, the Mythology and history of Silent Hill is way too vast to tell in one siting. He could do a story about the first Witch Hunt, Dr. Kauffman, Lisa Garland, Dahlia, the origin of the mystic indiens who lived on this land, etc.

As for Alessa being born with Dark gifts, personally, I think she either didn't have any powers wathsoever and the cruel attention she got from school and the cult was because her Father was never named or maybe she was a psychic. What I'm sure of is that Dark Alessa is a manifestation of Silent Hill, clearly Samael.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 08:44 PM #539 of 608
Hey i saw Silent hill and i was like OMG it was so good no it was great they did so good on it but there was a problem. The main person dident interact that much with the monsters. But it was still good. Ill give it a 8 out of 10.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 08:50 PM #540 of 608
Originally Posted by Zonix717
Hey i saw Silent hill and i was like OMG it was so good no it was great they did so good on it but there was a problem. The main person dident interact that much with the monsters. But it was still good. Ill give it a 8 out of 10.

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O ya and you dont see PH that much in the movie so that sucked but when you do see PH it was AWSOME.


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Old Apr 23, 2006, 09:21 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 07:21 PM #541 of 608
I really have to say I was impressed. Graphics were top notch and the story was excellent. Easily the best movie adaptation of a video game I've ever seen. A couple parts made me cringe like the whole cult thing (a bit hokey)but overall enjoyable. Really lacked monsters though and the ending was a bit confusing.

8.5/10

A sequal HAS to be made. They have a story for the next one (SH2) all they have to do is stick with it. They can come back to Rose and Sharron in the 3rd film.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 09:26 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 09:26 PM #542 of 608
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Old Apr 23, 2006, 09:34 PM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 06:34 PM #543 of 608
I've always had a major problem with a certain aspect of SH2's story. It's hinged on the town being James and Mary's "special place", a resort town. I've always found that aspect silly and out of place in the series. There isn't really a believable reason you could float for Silent Hill being a haven of fond memories, and that's always hurt the story for me. Ignoring that, sure, the story was the best of the series. I'm hesitant about seeing it adapted though, and am not really hoping for any sort of sequel.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 10:00 PM Local time: Apr 24, 2006, 12:00 AM #544 of 608
Silent Hill was their 'Special Place' probably due to the fact that it was their last trip together and Mary liked the town and its past.

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Old Apr 23, 2006, 11:39 PM Local time: Apr 24, 2006, 12:39 AM #545 of 608
Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
I've always had a major problem with a certain aspect of SH2's story. It's hinged on the town being James and Mary's "special place", a resort town. I've always found that aspect silly and out of place in the series. There isn't really a believable reason you could float for Silent Hill being a haven of fond memories, and that's always hurt the story for me. Ignoring that, sure, the story was the best of the series. I'm hesitant about seeing it adapted though, and am not really hoping for any sort of sequel.
Silent Hill is a resort town. Before Alessa was born and wierd shit started happening, I'm sure it was a very pleasant place to visit.

And for SH2:
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Didn't Mary ask James to kill her since she was suffering from her disease?


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Old Apr 24, 2006, 12:11 AM Local time: Apr 24, 2006, 02:11 AM #546 of 608
@MOBIUS: Put Spoiler Tags on your post and I'll answer your question.

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Old Apr 24, 2006, 12:14 AM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 09:14 PM #547 of 608
Well, yeah, I get that's what the game billed it as. I'm not swallowing that pill. The place is suppose to have a history peppered in atrocities and mysticism long before the events of the first game. I could buy that the occult stuff of the town was buried under something seemingly normal, but as a place people vacation to? That's retarded.

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I mean, the movie didn't even go into anything past the town religion, and even it had the good sense not to try to sell as a novel bed and breakfast town.


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Old Apr 24, 2006, 12:17 AM Local time: Apr 24, 2006, 02:17 AM #548 of 608
Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
Well, yeah, I get that's what the game billed it as. I'm not swallowing that pill. The place is suppose to have a history peppered in atrocities and mysticism long before the events of the first game. I could buy that the occult stuff of the town was buried under something seemingly normal, but as a place people vacation to? That's retarded.
How about the US? Don't tell me no atrocities have ever been comitted in Florida or New-York and it doesn't stop it from being a way-point for tourism.

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Old Apr 24, 2006, 12:35 AM Local time: Apr 23, 2006, 09:35 PM #549 of 608
Okay, fine. The town's a quaint place with friendly locals. Who wouldn't want to take a few days off, pack their bags.

I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just always something that's stood out to me as a lazy excuse on how to place these character's in Silent Hill.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Apr 24, 2006, 01:18 AM Local time: Apr 24, 2006, 03:18 AM #550 of 608
Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just always something that's stood out to me as a lazy excuse on how to place these character's in Silent Hill.
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