[DS] Universal DS Homebrew thread. Fucking cheapskates.

Originally Posted by Lukage

I'm considering the M3 DS Simply as my choice emulator. Can anyone briefly give me their opinion of it?

The Simply isn't an emulator, but general consensus is it's a fantastic choice for a slot-1 device if you don't mind not having GBA functionality.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I ordered yet another M3 Simply from Gameyeeeah.

Of course I went ahead and ordered this in the middle of feb, and it didn't arrive until today. Apparently my money wasn't cleared until about a week later and by then they were out of stock. I had to wait until the 5th of March for them to ship from their new stock. It arrived today, the 16th.

It looks like they've stopped doing replacement cartridge shells, because this second package is missing one. They've also replaced the blister pack for just a common cardboard box with plastic clear inserts.

Everything is the same for the most part, except the micro SD card reader is black. And smaller. I guess this is a good thing but I don't really care. I was able to just stick the SD card in, along with all it's current information, and it worked straight away.

It came with the same strap and blue case as the original, so it seems like they've jut improved the USB SD reader and managed to check out on doing free replacement shells, which kinda sucks.

Aside from that, nothing to update.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I just received my M3 Simply in the mail today, and so far it's great. I'm a little dissapointed with the lack of SNES support, but the video and NDS emulation is enough to warrant its purchase.

Has anyone got Opera to work on their DS (emulated)? I've hear some sources say it is impossible, while others have stated it can be done. Does anyone have the Rom? I couldn't find it anywhere.

How ya doing, buddy?

Lame ass. I ordered my M3 Simply a few weeks ago and they're still backordered.

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Originally Posted by Free.User

I'm a little dissapointed with the lack of SNES support

For the love of god man. As I've stated repeatedly in this thread, there are multiple SNES emulators readily available for Slot-1 and Slot-2 devices.

SnemulDS - still being supported and in development, this is the emulator to look into. Version 0.4 works awesome and I was able to beat Super Metroid on it. Supports save states and SRAM saves, and has graphic layer options. Doesn't support large romsizes yet so some rom hacks won't work. Should work fine on Simply.

http://www.pocketheaven.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=5428 - message board post with link to latest version, 0.4 final

You can also look into SnezziDS and SNESDS. SnezziDS actually ran a Super Metroid rom hack that SnemulDS wouldn't, but it's no longer being supported.

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai

For the love of god man. As I've stated repeatedly in this thread, there are multiple SNES emulators readily available for Slot-1 and Slot-2 devices.

For the love of god man, not that many games are playable, and the inability to play roms larger than 4MB is a downer.

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Originally Posted by Free.User

For the love of god man, not that many games are playable, and the inability to play roms larger than 4MB is a downer.

Wow dude. I'm not sure if you understand how to read a table so let me point out from that wiki you posted, the vast majority of games tested for 0.4 final actually do work. Notice that there are different charts for the different versions.

And like I said, it's version ZERO POINT 4, meaning IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. And also like I said, SnezziDS currently supports larger rom sizes (4mb+) (but only for slot-2, nyah).

Learn to appreciate what others have put time and effort into instead of complaining about everything.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai

Wow dude. I'm not sure if you understand how to read a table so let me point out from that wiki you posted, the vast majority of games tested for 0.4 final actually do work. Notice that there are different charts for the different versions.

And like I said, it's version ZERO POINT 4, meaning IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. And also like I said, SnezziDS currently supports larger rom sizes (4mb+) (but only for slot-2, nyah).

Learn to appreciate what others have put time and effort into instead of complaining about everything.

Ok, let's get one thing strait. Not once did I say "nobody is doing anything about Snes emulation on the DS", infact, I love the work people are doing. Perhaps "lack of support" was a poor choice of words on my behalf, because I was referring to the issue in general, not the people who are behind it.

The majority of the games in that list were compatible, but that is only a very small slice of the entire Snes library. I wanted to play games such as Seiken Densetsu III, Illusion of Gaia, and Kirby's Dreamland 3, but that is not possible at this stage. As such, I am disappointed, and rightly so. I don't understand where you picked up that I was rapping on the people behind the emulation projects.

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Originally Posted by Free.User

Not once did I say "nobody is doing anything about Snes emulation on the DS", infact, I love the work people are doing. Perhaps "lack of support" was a poor choice of words on my behalf

No, no, that's pretty accurate. There's what... 2-3 SNES emulators for this kinda shit? I think ONE is being worked on, while the others are pretty much outdated (early 2006, 2005) material.

Seriously, I've said it before. If you want emulated, portable SNES games, buy a gamepark or PSP.

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Except a "lack of support" would mean that there are no emulators, period. Clearly that is not the case. You give DS SNES emulation far too little credit.

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai

Except a "lack of support" would mean that there are no emulators, period.

I don't want to turn this thread into an argument, but let me just say that "lack" has many connotations and does not imply a complete absence.

Anyway

I'm going on a train trip to Victoria today (4 hours there, 4 hours back), so the M3 couldn't have arrived at a more opportune moment. Time to put it to the test.

FELIPE NO

I reiterate, you both are giving the DS emulation scene too little credit. The DS doesn't come close to the processing power of the PSP so holding it to the PSP's standards is a little unfair.

My issue with you saying "lack of support" is that there really is quite adequate support. What, do you want there to be 10 or 20 different SNES emulators out there that all basically do the same thing? There's only a handful because that is all that is necessary. SNEmulDS is basically a collaborative effort as the CPU and sound emulation were contributed by other coders, making it the most ambitious and promising emulator for the DS right now.

My concern is that your negativity towards it will turn off other people in this thread from trying it out. Again, the wiki that Free.User posted only shows what games users have actually tested and submitted themselves. It is not a complete list of all games that are supported. And right now most of the games tested for v0.4 Final actually do work.

That being said, there are several SNES games that used special chips in the cartridges that will probably never be able to be properly emulated. You can see a list of these games here.

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By the way Elixir, I'm not familiar with the PSP homebrew scene. Exactly how good is SNES emulation on the PSP? As far as speed, compatibility, large rom size support, graphics layers support, special chip support, etc.a

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai

By the way Elixir, I'm not familiar with the PSP homebrew scene. Exactly how good is SNES emulation on the PSP? As far as speed, compatibility, large rom size support, graphics layers support, special chip support, etc.

Fairly high. You can overclock a PSP to 366MHz so it'll run games (and emulated games) faster. There's only slowdown on fast paced SNES and Genesis games, like Gunstar Heroes and Uniracers. I've played through a few Genesis games on a PSP (at least, when I OWNED one) and it's been sweet.

There's a few here and there that don't work, but the PSP emulation scene is booming. There's at least a new app or upgrade every week on qj.net.

This is why I'm not interested in emulation on the DS, since the PSP covers almost all of it.

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Will wonders never cease. I was taking a look at Game Park and it's pretty awesome...like an all-in-one hand held retro-console, MP3 player, MP4 player, PDF reader, etc.

Anyway, as for NDS SNES Emulation, a good summary is consisting of both sides:

"NDS SNES Emulation is still in the development phases. While promising, users should be aware that only a handful of games work, and only a handful of those games work perfectly. Users are encouraged to try it out (and report results), but should keep an open mind that it is still a work-in-progress (as support comes from a variety of people), and that future releases will result in more games working at optimized settings."

Everyone happy?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Updated with different prices and a few tweaks here and there. I've also backed up this so if the site decides to take another fall, we won't be completely ruined.

I've also been checking out the No$GBA emulator for DS. It runs surprisingly well (as in, games actually run) but whenever there's action on the screen it ends up dropping to somewhere between 3 and 9 fps. Unless you have a really high end PC, don't bother.



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More than a month since I ordered my M3 Simply. I hope they come back in stock. Some time. Ever.

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Cool deal Elixer. It may be a nice way to finally try out games before I buy them (even if it is slow at this point, but hey, I guess that's why it's good to BUY the games you like, eh?).

I was speaking idiomatically.

It seems that complaining did the trick. The M3 Simply is listed at a 3-day in stock. Wewt.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Free.User

Has anyone got Opera to work on their DS (emulated)? I've hear some sources say it is impossible, while others have stated it can be done. Does anyone have the Rom? I couldn't find it anywhere.

As of last week when I checked again you can run opera if you have a slot 1 device, because the browser checks the slot 2 space for the extra memory that would come in the form of the attachment that comes with the browser.

There's a patched version of the browser rom all over the internet.

http://www.nintendo-ds-roms.com/

They seem to have everything, but you'll need to get emule.

FELIPE NO

Okay, I'm loading my M3 Simply with tons of crap. Browser and VoiP software aren't working. Anyone with suggestions and/or links are welcome to give 'em. Also, I've yet to go into the lands of emulation outside NDS roms. This is where you guys come in as well. <3

The M3 is awesome!

EDIT: The above link is only for roms though...and eMule is bleh.

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- Added Table of Contents
- Added keywords
- Cleared up some broken links, relocated flashme.nds
- Fixed some typos.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I also joined the clan of M3 Simply owners recently.
The whole scene of DS homebrew felt complicated, and when I read up on the simply I felt "This is the card for me".

Extremely easy to install, handle and use. Works like a charm. Every time.

One card - 1,000 hours of fun

Also, I tried out the SNES emulator SNEmulDS. Tried out some Chrono Trigger, some text was weird, the menu is wacked and the sound goes hozo sometimes. I read however that the developer will fix sound and graphics for the most popular Square and Enix games due SNEmulDS 0.5b. Can't wait.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm terribly disappointed in the homebrew department of the DS. So far, I've tested quite a few of the more popular applications and nothing is all that impressive.

ScummVM has all sorts of display and sound problems and can't run the newer games. DSOrganize is pretty handy but looks like crap. Moonshell seems quite powerful at first glance but is a pain to use (who needs drag & drop windows on such a small screen?) and converting videos so you can watch them stutter in super crappy quality on the DS doesn't seem right. I spent a couple of hours with Tower Defense, but it's still pretty buggy and gets boring fast. Emulation isn't nearly fast enough even for NES at times. I don't understand how anyone can expect to play SNES or Genesis games at decent speed on the DS anytime soon.

I now use my R4 for game backups and nothing else. Homebrew on the DS is in its infancy. If you're into these kinds of things, you absolutely need to get a PSP. That's where the Homebrew scene is really at right now.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Rock, I've also got an R4 and tried using BeUp Messenger and Okiwi Internet to work, but for some reason they don't connect to the internet. I've got that DLDI patching thing but I haven't the foggiest idea of what to do. Any ideas?

And yeh, homebrew ain't that great on many Slot-1 cards yet but one nifty thing about the R4 is the latest firmware update (1.08): Action REEEPLAY (actioning replaying the crap outta POKEMON!!! w00t l33tZ etc etc.)

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

Also, I tried out the SNES emulator SNEmulDS. Tried out some Chrono Trigger, some text was weird, the menu is wacked and the sound goes hozo sometimes. I read however that the developer will fix sound and graphics for the most popular Square and Enix games due SNEmulDS 0.5b. Can't wait.

SnemulDS 0.5 beta is out now, and Chrono Trigger runs at full speed with near perfect sound. There is still some text issues right now but the game is fully playable as is.

Originally Posted by Rock

I don't understand how anyone can expect to play SNES or Genesis games at decent speed on the DS anytime soon.

That's funny - I have 62 SNES roms on my M3 Lite, and 51 of them are running at full speed with near perfect sound and fully visible layers, with working SRAM saves and savestates.

I was speaking idiomatically.