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Just the thought of seeing a woman who uses creatine grosses me out.
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
I can bring a Healthy Choice to work and cook it in the microwave there. How is that considered 'home cooking'. There's absolutely no cooking involved. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Actually, I got a better question. Why is it that so many of you are trying to dodge the issue at hand and focus on me instead as well as all this semantic nonsense? You just can't admit that I'm right about the topic (in that fast food companies are not to blame and these lawyers are being ridiculous in their accusations that fast food is like nicotine) because you have some weird grudge against me. FELIPE NO
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage
Last edited by PattyNBK; Sep 3, 2006 at 03:05 AM.
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Whether or not you are right is beside the point. Mostly what people are arguing about is how your arguments are inept and your reasoning is biased and flawed.
This topic is not about Big Tabacco, why do you keep bringing them up? Whether or not fast food is addictive (there are more than physical addictions, you know) is not affected in any way by the actions of tobacco companies. Because it is the lesser of two evils does not remove it from blame. The main people who eat fast food are people who are unable to prepare food for themselves or their family for whatever reason, be it time/money etc. The companys that do this know that they will continue to make money by putting addatives into their food that will make their food generally more appealing, (and generally less nutritous) and serving products of an inferior quality in order to be able to sell their products at cheaper prices and thus make it easier for people under somekind of restraint to submit to buying their product. They know what are doing and have become very proficent at keeping their customers hooked in someway. Do you think it is morally right for a company to abuse its power and take advantage of people who have no other option much of the time? What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
Last edited by CloudNine; Sep 3, 2006 at 03:31 AM.
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If the fast food companies suddenly disappeared, what would all of those people that only eat there do? Starve?
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The reason I keep bringing up cigarette companies is because that's what these lawyers have done. The lawyers claim that fast food companies are responsible in the same way that cigarette companies are responsible, claiming that fast food companies somehow made their products physically addictive. That is a blatant lie and it is very irresponsible for them to spread such false information. That's what this entire topic is about, so I don't see how I can't keep mentioning the comparison when that's what the lawyers are doing! There's nowhere I can't reach.
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage |
So, um, for a week's worth of dinners, you go to a fast food joint twice, you go 'out' (Olive Garden?) an additional two times, and you eat frozen ready meals three times. do you expect you will at any time start making your own meals from scratch, or is that women's labor? Double Post:
The other reason is, of course, you think a Healthy Choice is home cooking. oh lol pop quiz: are these kids responsible for their appearance? yes/no/lol Healthy Choice Double Post:
i mean christ who drives anymore This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Last edited by Sarag; Sep 3, 2006 at 07:44 PM.
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You see, you're putting words in my mouth now, meaning either you enjoy lying to put down other people, or you're so stupid you can't figure out how to properly read. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter. Now then, I never said I had frozen dinners three times a week, I said I have home cooking three times a week. I know how to cook, probably better than you do, and I do indeed prepare my own meals from scratch occasionally. I don't have a calendar with which I decide meals, though. The numbers I gave were on average, and the information was not specific. Sometimes I might have three frozen dinners, sometimes only one. All the same, when I get fast food, sometimes it's McDonald's, but sometimes it's Wendy's. I do not follow a strict schedule. Do you understand what I'm saying yet or no? If you don't understand by now, well, I suggest you look into some night school classes or something. Seriously. Learn to read properly, then speak. Until then, just go away.
As for insulting your intelligence, that would require that you have some to insult, wouldn't it?
How ya doing, buddy?
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage
Last edited by PattyNBK; Sep 3, 2006 at 09:04 PM.
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there's 'on' and 'off' that's really it
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Last edited by Sarag; Sep 3, 2006 at 09:15 PM.
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Also, Patty, I'd consider frozen dinners as reheating foods, not cooking, since all the food in those things has already been precooked. All you're doing is warming the food up, something I do whenever I bring some Subway home because their soggy buns suck (and it's bullshit when they say oven toasted, it hardly even warms the bread). Like how my mom will give me a frozen lasagana when she comes out to visit me at school. I don't say I cooked the lasagana when I heat it up, I'm only reheating something that's already been made by someone else. But when I do my tricky ravoli-pasta bake by boiling the pasta, mixing in some sauce, arranging it in a casserole dish, layering the cheese, and baking it in the oven it's home-made. Most amazing jew boots |
McDonalds nutrition facts Lets say you order a Quarter Pounder with Cheese meal, arguably one of the most popular items on the menu. With Fries and a Coke, your looking at 45g of fat and 1100 calories. A similar meal at Burger King is even worse, totaling to 67g of fat and 1320 calories. How can you possibly say that this is healthy for you, in any way what-so-ever?
You keep saying lawyers as if they are one group of people united together to fight the same cause. You do know that the lawyers who are representing the anti-tobacco lobbyists are probably not the same ones that are running suits against fast food companies. Contrary to what you are saying, they may not have the same opinion or are any at all regarding tobacco use. Thus any references or comparisons to actions brought against tobacco companies is a seperate issue and not relevant to the current issue. FELIPE NO |
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I would venture a guess that, for the majority of people, this was not the case 50 years ago like it is now. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Yeah, but also in those days people had much more home made meals and cooking took considerably longer. It's not like you need a woman home all day to bake bread, slaughter the chickens, and milk the cows. Nowadays a 30 minute trip to the grocery store takes care of all those things. And cooking doesn't necessarily take very long, just ask my favorite lady.
Hell, when I don't have time to make a meal I eat a sandwich, which is the same thing I'd be buying at a fast food restaurant. On days when I really didn't have enough time, I'd throw all the things I wanted to put on my sandwich in my backpack and make it while I was on my lunch break. Considering you have to wait for them to make your meal at a fast food place nowadays (you know, the freshness thing) it's not any longer for you to throw a few slices of roast beef on two pieces of bread than to stand in line and buy a Big Mac. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Basically, no one is forcing you to stuff your face with tons of fries. Eat a double cheeseburger. Get a filet-o-fish. Maybe try the chicken sandwich. Stay away from the junk food, and it's much better for you then.
You asked if this was the moral high road for fast food to offer this. I do believe there is absolutely nothing immoral about it. Let me pose this question to you, since you have so little time that you're "forced" to eat fast food. Actually, let me pose you two questions. These questions aren't actually directed at you specifically, but apply to everyone who is supposedly "forced" to eat fast food: 1. Why do you order junk sides? Why not just stick to healthier menu items? If you like fries, then it's your choice, and it's not their fault. 2. What would you do if every fast food company disappeared tomorrow? Would you starve? If not, then if you want to avoid fast food, just pretend that their restaurants don't exist, and do whatever you would be forced to do in such a situation. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage |
Oh, this is rich. A woman who proclaims herself healthy because that's how she has to be, to be on the top of the game, is telling you to stay away from the junk food at McDonalds.
It's another false dilemma. The poor don't survive on fast food alone, but they eat it way more than normal people should*. What would people do if all the fast food places disappeared? They'd do what they do on their non-fast food days, and their kids would scream a lot more because everyone knows that to poor kids, screaming is their only passtime. * No Patty, twice a week is not normal. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
Last edited by Sarag; Sep 4, 2006 at 05:34 PM.
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This is the problem with your arguments. All of your statements are pure opinionated bullshit and every one is calling you on it. If your going to make claims here, back it up or else you will get called on for it.
1. People will order value meals because they are cheaper and more cost efficent for the amount of food than buying items seperatlely. And like I pointed out above, fries are hardly the most unhealthy part of the meal. 2. Like I have been saying the entire time, it is about conveniece. It would be much more inconvenient to do any of these other options. People who are rushed for time and money will always choose the option that is easiest and most convenient for themselves. Fast food companies know this well and market towards these types of people who would be very inconvenienced by having to go to the store and make their own meals. Again, what should these people cut out of their lives? Sleep? Showering? They are taking advantage of their customers by knowingly serving products of subpar quality and unhealthy nutrition in such a way that many of their cusotmers see no other way than eat there. Maybe not something that they should be legally held responsible for, but ehtical and moral? I think not. I was speaking idiomatically. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage |
Jesus. Political Palace type posting in the food forums!
My personal opinion is, fast food companies like McDonald's provide a quicker and more convenient alternative to home cooking. However, I don't think they intentionally select ingredients which are more fattening. After all, you'd want to keep your customers alive for a longer time, no? Thus, it is my opinion that any attempt at litigation is ill-advised. No one's forcing you to eat at fast food places. If the lawyers win, and the fast food places have to provide only healthy food, betcha the prices will shoot right up. Not a good thing for the majority of its customers, in a fiscal sense. When will these Americans stop suing people willy-nilly, and start taking responsibility for themselves? Most amazing jew boots |
Like fucking calcium and protien is hard to come by in an American diet, christ almighty. Actually, I don't know. Maybe it's hard to get your daily alotment of calcium from a Healthy Choice sweet and sour chicken dinner. How ya doing, buddy?
Last edited by Sarag; Sep 5, 2006 at 11:55 AM.
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Really all this thread boils down to is PattyNBK is in denial that fast food is VERY unhealthy (even a McSalad is unhealthy by some standards when you add that chicken that's been cooking on the same grill as a burger patty (I dont care if they scrap the grease off, its still there) or put cripsy deep-fried chicken and/or bacon bits on it. Even the dressings are unhealthy. Eating once and a while, fine. Eating it once a week or more, not good (esspecially if you do not take time on the side to be active or work out). I won't argue against the fact her original statement declared it's stupid people are suing fast food "because they MADE them get fat" (although I admit that during the time I worked at McDonalds, they pressured the employees to ask if people wanted to "large-size" their orders (we don't have "super size") or even just add an order of fries, cookies, pies or a soda. Most amazing jew boots |
Good grief were you born this stupid?
I can eat fast food once or twice a week because I work out extensively. Maybe I'm just weird, but my well-being is the top priority for me. If I wanna indulge myself food-wise with something a little less healthy, I make up for it later by working it off. If I can do it, while working full time, why can't other people? Lazy lazy lazy! Americans always wanna play the blame game and I'm sick of it! People need to starting taking responsibility! I don't feel at all sorry for anyone who eats himself or herself fat; as it goes, "you reap what you sow". If people want a change, that starts from within, not by suing McDonald's! Most amazing jew boots
Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills People.
Why are you arguing with WoW players? It's pronounced "Shut the fuck up and get a job. Raiding isn't a job." - Lukage |
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